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Samsung Plans To Give Up Authoritarian Ways, Act Like a Startup

An anonymous reader writes: Samsung on Thursday announced that it plans to reform its internal culture to act like a startup. Se Young Lee reports for Reuters, "Samsung's executives will sign a pledge to move away from a top-down culture and towards a working environment that fosters open dialogue. The flagship firm of South Korea's dominant conglomerate will also reduce the number of levels in its staff hierarchy and hold more frequent online discussions between business division heads and employees. [...] The pronouncement is the latest among sweeping changes attempted at a time of crisis by the conglomerate and carries echoes of a 1993 exhortation by Samsung Group patriarch Lee Kun-hee to executives to 'change everything but your wife and children.'"

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  1. Act as a startup? by CajunArson · · Score: 0

    Foosball tables now bitches!

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    1. Re:Act as a startup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't forget throwing away millions on faggoty pink and green office furniture.

  2. Samsung is the biggest company in Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, sure, they're going to get startup culture. But only after they splinter into the two hundred or so companies that operate in the markets they do.

    1. Re:Samsung is the biggest company in Korea by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Yup, this is all buzzwords. A huge multinational corporation isn't a startup by definition. They may be able to *fund* startups, but they are nothing like a startup, and in many ways, I don't know why they'd want to be one. Samsung is a large, possibly bloated, but stable going concern. Why do they want to turn into a edgy, over-valued, under-revenued, wanna-be?

      Yeah, startups are interesting places to work, but I don't see why a corporation would want to turn into one. Nine out of ten startups fail. Are they trying to work at adding more failure to their business model? Just fund a startup and stay out of its way, or acquire some promising startups after you do sufficient due diligence on them and only if understand their role in your business plan.

  3. There goes the company - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sell their stock now.

    I've been in several companies that tried this to be "fast and maneuverable" but the reality is that corporation shattered into dozens of fiefdoms some with their own "warlords" who didn't want to work towards a common goal but were more interested in maintaining their own power. Good teams stayed good but bad teams got worse.

    An open culture is great but the hierarchy is there for a very hard and concrete reason - For the CEO to manage control of the company's production units.

    TL;DR - the CEO just abdicated his role for the sake of a political sound-bite (probably because he's out of ideas)

    1. Re:There goes the company - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that the modern CEO is there to pretend to know what he's doing while drawing a paycheck and playing golf, up until he gets hauled into court at which point he's there to pretend he's got no fucking idea what he or anyone else was doing all this time.

    2. Re:There goes the company - by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      that corporation shattered into dozens of fiefdoms some with their own "warlords"

      So pretty much like every other multinational megacorp with hundreds of divisions each jostling for a share of the budget.

      the CEO just abdicated his role

      Did he abdicate? Or did he just throw a half-dozen layers of middle management out of the plane?

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    3. Re:There goes the company - by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      Did he abdicate? Or did he just throw a half-dozen layers of middle management out of the plane?

      why not both?

    4. Re: There goes the company - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, this could very badly in the wrong corporate culture. Democratizing the company works when there's a shared goal, which comes from the CEO, and then you need the right leaders who will see all parts of the company work to that end. People will naturally protect their own interests, to the detriment of the company as a whole. Why should division x harm their own business by supporting division y? Retrofitting startup culture in to Samsung will not be a simple task.

    5. Re:There goes the company - by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

      Did he abdicate? Or did he just throw a half-dozen layers of middle management out of the plane?

      No, he does the Hitler thing and encourages his underlings to jostle for his table scraps, so that they'll all be too busy to usurping him.

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    6. Re:There goes the company - by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Ahh, the art of war.

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  4. The first step away from a "top-down culture"... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is definitely an announcement that top executives are going to sign a pledge. Ask any worker under conditions of strict anonymity, and I'm sure they'll cite the lack of executive-level pledges as their main day-to-day impediment.

  5. Words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They said a lot of words.

  6. Big companies cannot act like startups by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Samsung on Thursday announced that it plans to reform its internal culture to act like a startup.

    Big companies cannot act like a startup. The very structures that allow them to be big prevent it from happening. They protect their current businesses and they ignore market opportunities that are too small to move their balance sheet. Big companies pay mouth service to trying to "act like a startup" but the plain fact is that doing so is impossible and unnecessary. Being big has lots of advantages. GE has been huge for over a century but they've updated their business as times have changed and have not acted like a startup since they were one.

    1. Re:Big companies cannot act like startups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. Startups are defined by low compensation, promises of future prosperity, and vaporware. Samsung can adopt all of those quite easily without losing a single bureaucrat.

    2. Re:Big companies cannot act like startups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By "acting like a startup" they mean putting ping pong tables in the break room and taking down the cubicle walls. Its a "workplace culture" change, not dropping their business model.

      At best it is an improvement for some of their employees. At worst it's a stunt. No matter what, it's invisible to you and me.

    3. Re:Big companies cannot act like startups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GE is actually in deep debt.

      Whem Samsung says "act like a startup", they probably mean "be more like Google and Facebook".

    4. Re:Big companies cannot act like startups by null+etc. · · Score: 1

      Thanks for paraphrasing, "The Innovator's Dilemma".

  7. Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The company is basically Korea. Try spitting up so your shitty tvs don't get a bad reputation from your shitty phones and your shitty washing machines don't get a bad reputation from your shitty kimchi.

    1. Re:Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Their HDs are shit too. I had a WD fail (I had two of the ones with the head parking problem which I found out about later than I should) and replaced it with a Samsung.

      The Samsung has failed, but the remaining WD is still fine.

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    2. Re:Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung HD's have been rebranded Seagates for quite a few years. The only thing in common is the name.

      I've had mixed success with Samsung drives in the past; they were excellent in the ~300GB/platter size (I had 1TB models), but it seems like the ~160GB/platter drives had a high failure rate.

      That said, yes Seagate has had absolutely terrible failure rates of late. I think they're at about 5x the failure rate of HGST and Toshiba while also providing worse performance.

    3. Re: Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your sample size is clearly sufficient to apply the results to their whole product line. Well done.

    4. Re:Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

      Samsung HD's have been rebranded Seagates for quite a few years. The only thing in common is the name.

      I've had mixed success with Samsung drives in the past; they were excellent in the ~300GB/platter size (I had 1TB models), but it seems like the ~160GB/platter drives had a high failure rate.

      That said, yes Seagate has had absolutely terrible failure rates of late. I think they're at about 5x the failure rate of HGST and Toshiba while also providing worse performance.

      Well, Samsung had crap for drive firmware. The only brand of drives we had that we didn't have to pound on for it to corrupt user data. They're followed by WD and Seagate (in that order.) But with the latter, it's mostly mechanical problem, not firmware problem.

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    5. Re: Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's 100% of the ones I've owned, and 100% of the ones I'm ever going to.

      P.S. I probably know more about stats than you do, you pretentious little whiner.

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    6. Re: Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dick.

    7. Re: Too big for your own brithces, bitches! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a dick because he burned you? How's that salt taste? Salty right?

  8. Public relations blather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, and Google won't be evil. This is just a PR band aid to help distract from their Orwellian telescreens or to smooth over some internal revolt among their employees. Act first, Samsung, then you can brag about how high your horse is.

  9. Just a mix up folks by hattable · · Score: 0

    ...meant to say they had ordered a bunch of GALANT desks from ikea and now have an employee rule in the handbook forcing them to live in his or her car (and blog about it) one day a month minimum.

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  10. Mildly Offended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully if they draw from that quote themselves they substitute 'wife' with 'spouse', lest they draw the ire a la Microsoft last week.

  11. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by khasim · · Score: 1

    I once worked for a company where all the executives took a week long "retreat" to work on improving the business.

    After a week of working together, they added one line to the "value statement".

    Not the "mission statement".

    Not the "vision statement".

    They extended the "value statement" to include a line about valuing the employees.

    And a few years later that company went under.

  12. Not yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe in Korea at the mothership. No sign of this here in NA.

  13. It never works by XXongo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    These "culture change" things are always hot air, not reality. Unless they plan to fire 90% of their people, their employees will just wait it out. After a while people will forget the rhetoric. Or the managers will leave and be replaced by others with different buzz word reorganization plans.

    This is is rhetoric,not reality.

    1. Re:It never works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >This is is rhetoric,not reality.

      Which is good news. Samsung is successfully bringing nice products to market, and it would be terrible if they screwed that up to make low-level employees feel more involved. If workers are being abused, cut the problem managers, but don't give up the smart-people-in-charge model.

    2. Re:It never works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. EVERY big corporation says they want to, or already, act like a startup. Saying so an wishing so doesn't make it so. It's just way too comfortable to take advantage of the slow environment of a rich company, where lack of progress doesn't matter.

    3. Re:It never works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Americans don't understand about Korea and asian countries in general is that there is just not the same culture of cynicism that there is here.

      I worked at a Korean company as an embedded employee for more than two years, and though I can't say that their approach is going to work, it certainly won't be because the employees and managers will cynically ignore it in favor of business as usual. It seems crazy to us here in the US, but they take these sorts of things very seriously and actually try to implement them in good faith, from the managers down to the employees. There is just more of a collective sense of cooperation and willingness to try to work together towards the common good.

      TL;DR - May not work but being Korean they'll give it a sincere try.

    4. Re:It never works by Doghouse13 · · Score: 1

      Sadly true. I worked inside a big, household name corporation for years, and my reaction was exactly the same as yours - if you want to change your culture fast, the only way you'll do it is to rip people out, root and branch, all the way up the corporate tree. You CAN turn the culture of a company around less dramatically, but it usually takes years to decades, because mostly the culture is the people, and just telling everyone to work, let alone think, differently, simply isn't enough to make it happen - even if they want it to. They simply come with too much personal (and interpersonal) baggage. From observation, I used to reckon that you could manage just about ONE big process or methods change a year (out of maybe a dozen or more that most people were involved in). Anything beyond that, and it didn't happen - sure, people would say that they were doing the new stuff, but in practice they were simply too overloaded with the need to actually get a job done to focus on doing everything the "new" way - and whenever the chips were down, they'd pay lip-service to the new stuff, but fall back on the old, tried-and-tested ways under the covers.

  14. Impact on Products? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will they change their products in any way? I'm leaving my Samsung Galaxy for another droid. They pack so much bloatware on their phones even the reviews have taken note, and the otherwise excellent S7 looks like a turd.

  15. As the 'dot turns by orledrat · · Score: 1

    The pronouncement is the latest among sweeping changes attempted at a time of crisis by the conglomerate and carries echoes of a 1993 exhortation by Samsung Group patriarch Lee Kun-hee to executives to 'change everything but your wife and children.

    As if no executives are ever married to any men whatsoever? What a clodly thing to say.

    But on the other hand.. that lowly line will likely make a good story for tomorrow's Slashdot. It's a thorny issue indeed: why would you NOT want to change your children? Isn't the whole point of raising a kid to have it change into something semi-acceptable if not passable?

    1. Re: As the 'dot turns by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      As if no executives are ever married to any men whatsoever? What a clodly thing to say.

      In an East Asian conglomerate?! You know, now that I think about it, the main reason has jumped the shark is because it's largely achieved its mission... but that's only over here. It still might serve a purpose in Korea, however... can we get them to take it off our hands? Everybody would benefit.

    2. Re: As the 'dot turns by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Lol, typo; left out the key word indicating WTF I was talking about! That word is "feminism," BTW...

    3. Re:As the 'dot turns by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      The pronouncement is the latest among sweeping changes attempted at a time of crisis by the conglomerate and carries echoes of a 1993 exhortation by Samsung Group patriarch Lee Kun-hee to executives to 'change everything but your wife and children.

      As if no executives are ever married to any men whatsoever?

      ~25 years ago? Probably not.

  16. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They extended the "value statement" to include a line about valuing the employees. And a few years later that company went under.

    That shows you what happens when you have a company that values its employees.

    But I don't know about working for Samsung. "Change everything but your wife and children." Those are two things I might like to change, but I really don't want to change the mistress I've grown fond of.

    And can I keep my doctor if I like my doctor? Oh, wait ...

    Damn slashdot, logging me out every time I try to preview or submit. Fix this shit.

  17. root causes by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hah... Doomed to fail, or make only very little difference, unless the company also leads social change as a national brand.

    Korean work culture is all kinds of fucked up, and everyone is unwillingly complicit. Everyone does it, for some unknown reason, so you feel you have to do it too.

    Examples:

    -- Expected late working hours until the boss leaves, sometimes >10pm, because showing your face at work is more valued than the work itself getting done. And the boss probably feels pressure to stay late, to not appear lazy. Very little actual work gets done in those late hours.

    -- Expected drinks with colleagues after work into the late hours, and not only that but also shady, overtly sexist atmospheres and goings-on at bars. If you don't partake you're viewed as not part of the team.

    -- If you get home early for some reason (say 10pm), your wife asks you if something is wrong at work?

    -- Even kids are in on the ingrained culture - they go to cram schools into the late hours past midnight, to prep for college entrance exams. Good training for later life.

    Something is deeply wrong with this culture, which one big company might be able change if it threw itself headlong at the problem and declared certain practices forbidden - to help change the "understood practices". But I doubt that is the extent they're willing to go.

    The sad thing is that if you take a Korean and transplant him/her to a different culture, they would do just fine living a normal, not fucked-up lifestyle as in their home country.

    1. Re:root causes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's basically lack of awareness and consciousness.

      Captcha: minimax

    2. Re:root causes by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      Hah... Doomed to fail, or make only very little difference, unless the company also leads social change as a national brand. Korean work culture is all kinds of fucked up, and everyone is unwillingly complicit. Everyone does it, for some unknown reason, so you feel you have to do it too. Examples: -- Expected late working hours until the boss leaves, sometimes >10pm, because showing your face at work is more valued than the work itself getting done. And the boss probably feels pressure to stay late, to not appear lazy. Very little actual work gets done in those late hours.

      In the previous decade I worked for what was probably the 2nd most important American office for a major European telco. I don't like to name them because frankly they don't deserve any publicity, not even bad publicity, after they way they have treated their American employees over the years. Once I got sent to our HQ office in Europe and my co-workers were very honest with me and told me that almost every day they worked 10 hours or more, but the last 2-3 hours were a complete waste of time. They were a support team and we had a world wide support model. Around 4 PM they had actually handed off their support duties to North America, but their management expected them to stay until 6 PM, so they did, even if they didn't do any real work. And note that this was an a country that Americans think is infamous for not having 40 hour work weeks.

      -- Expected drinks with colleagues after work into the late hours, and not only that but also shady, overtly sexist atmospheres and goings-on at bars. If you don't partake you're viewed as not part of the team.

      I read an article a few years ago by a Korean American who was born and raised in the USA but whose parents taught him how to speak Korean. He thought it might be cool to move back there, so he did. He talked about these after hours drinking parties and said that not only could you not get out of them more than maybe one time (and then never again), but there was tremendous pressure to make sure you abused alcohol while you were there. So you can't just go and pretend to drink. It's probably no wonder that South Korea has the highest suicide rate in the world with a society like this.

    3. Re:root causes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "In the previous decade I worked for what was probably the 2nd most important American office for a major European telco."

      My assumption is that the name is also the second color of the rainbow. If so, I know them well and yes, the cultural pressure is strong there. Not being in the Eurocentric political in-crowd makes it even more interesting -- you get to watch things happen but can't influence anything.

    4. Re:root causes by jrand · · Score: 2

      The Korean drama Misaeng / Incomplete Life does a great job of capturing some of the pressures of Korean office culture. I was drawn into it because the main character was once an aspiring Go professional and there are frequent references to the game throughout the show, but the office drama is really the centerpiece of the show.

    5. Re:root causes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      -- Expected late working hours until the boss leaves, sometimes >10pm,

      Ha, I remember an anecdote I read a long, long time ago about an American office manager in Japan (which I assume is relatively rare).

      He liked to work late and this was causing a lot of tension in the office because, as you say, nobody wanted to leave before the office manager.

      He solved the problem, at quitting time he would put on his jacket, pick up his briefcase, walk out the door and take a leisurely stroll around the block.

      When he returned, the office would be empty and quiet.

    6. Re:root causes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you have some actual experience here. I'll add my own by echoing yours. I encourage people to look up the productivity per hour worked numbers to see how messed up Korea is in comparison to other develop(ing) [ed] countries.

      It isn't just long hours, it is physically being at work no matter what. For even the most basic bullshit fixes, there were no less than 4 people watching a single guy actually solve a hardware problem on our machines. No one feels they can leave before the boss, so they try and look busy despite having nothing to do. I saw plenty of folks dicking around on phones for hours at a time, weeks at a time.

      Drinking? Wow... blackoutkorea.com might suggest some of what's up. I never made it past "second place" because our country sales manager respected that I was married and I had turned down his polite attempt to pimp out some young women to me. Our sales staff told me some stories however...

      There is a general feeling in Korea that Samsung is a great place for your son but a horrible place for your husband to work. In short, it is a good respectful company, but it will wreck you socially and emotionally.

      Samsung is so big, I cannot picture them changing this culture. It might happen, but over the coarse of a decade.

    7. Re: root causes by Kvathe · · Score: 1

      On the plus side, this culturally enforced work ethic makes Koreans very good at esports.

  18. An aircraft carrier... by istartedi · · Score: 1

    An aircraft carrier can go fast enough so that you could water-ski behind it. It can launch more planes than some country's entire air forces. It almost certainly has some gun emplacements and many sailors with small arms. If pirates in speedboats attack it, they are toast... but not because the carrier out-maneuvers them.

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    1. Re:An aircraft carrier... by rhazz · · Score: 1

      So Samsung is the aircraft carrier and the employees are the pirates?

    2. Re:An aircraft carrier... by istartedi · · Score: 1

      No. The pirates are startups. The employees could be pirates though, if they quit and joined startups. The penalty for doing that would be considerably less severe than deserting the US Navy and joining pirates.

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    3. Re:An aircraft carrier... by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      What kind of legal team does the aircraft carrier have?

    4. Re:An aircraft carrier... by istartedi · · Score: 1

      I guess if we're going to extend the analogy a bit... allied nations and whatever ships they provide, or actual international laws that allow them to use deadly force to stop the pirates. As always, if it mapped perfectly it wouldn't be an analogy. It would be the thing we're talking about.

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    5. Re:An aircraft carrier... by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      What kind of legal team does the aircraft carrier have?

      Remember that part about "It almost certainly has some gun emplacements and many sailors with small arms." Legal team in its most primitive form.

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  19. We're a Startup! by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    Everyone work 60-80 hour weeks (as on-call for those "budding business emergencies") and take a 30% pay cut!

    1. Re:We're a Startup! by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Also, your stock/stock options have no market value.

  20. Examples by dcollins · · Score: 1

    "Other moves in recent years to ease a rigid corporate culture include flexible working hours, a loosening of dress code requirements for weekend work and less pressure on employees to attend after-work drinking sessions that have long been a staple of Korean corporate life."

    Loosening of dress code for weekend work? Somewhat less pressure for mandatory binge drinking? Wow, thanks!!! [bows vigorously]

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    1. Re: Examples by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      a loosening of dress code requirements for weekend work

      Anyone else seeing the irony?

    2. Re:Examples by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      "Other moves in recent years to ease a rigid corporate culture include flexible working hours, a loosening of dress code requirements for weekend work and less pressure on employees to attend after-work drinking sessions that have long been a staple of Korean corporate life."

      Loosening of dress code for weekend work? Somewhat less pressure for mandatory binge drinking? Wow, thanks!!! [bows vigorously]

      I'm not going to believe it until they loosen the dress code requirements for compulsory after-work drinking sessions.

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  21. Give Up on Authoritarian Ways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Like by locking the bootloader on the S7 and S7 Edge? Is that our example of less authoritarian ways?

  22. New Corporate madate. Work from bottom up! by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fact that they think they can change the culture to not be so hierarchical by sending down orders to be less hierarchical is kind of amusing.

    When South Korea hired themselves a Dutch coach for their 2002 World Cup national team, he quickly discovered that there was an ingrained culture of deference that was really difficult to combat. I believe he eventually had to kick most of the veterans off the team to get his whole team on an equal social footing.

    In the case of a large company, I don't think that's really an option. I'm not sure how they could combat that. Heck, I'm not even convinced a native Korean upper-level manager could even wrap their mind around the problem.

  23. oh, they've gone startup alright. by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    Work the insane hours like a startup, get paid like startup (which means the paycheck might not be forthcoming, sometimes for months) possibly big layoff like startup, minus the big "pay day" since it won't go public (again) or get acquired. Sounded mostly like what they've been doing for some time.

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    1. Re:oh, they've gone startup alright. by plopez · · Score: 1

      you forgot make vauge promises, realign to be buzzword compliant a few times, and burn through investor money before management bails.

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  24. It's a phase by ErichTheRed · · Score: 2

    None of these "lean and nimble" things end up working out in the idealized, hoped-for way. I've been at a few mega-large corporations and even some medium sized ones that had developed a massive bureaucracy and an authoritarian culture. You don't change that overnight. I know a lot of long-tenure IBMers who have 2 full time jobs -- their real job and the internal political navigation job. Microsoft is like this now. GM is like this. Even if you went through with a chainsaw and cut all the management layers off the org chart, the business just wouldn't function without radical mind-shifts on everyone's part.

    This is some McKinsey/Boston Consulting Group pre-packaged consulting engagement that got sold to the board. I'll bet they came in with the same PowerPoints they used on the last one, with the logo changed. This usually involves one or more of the following:
    - Encouraging "collaborative workspaces" by adopting open-plan offices and removing personal space, replacing it with white, pink and green Ikea office furniture
    - Rearranging management deck chairs, maybe by getting rid of 1 or 2 layers
    - Forcing managers to establish things like open door policies
    - Hundreds of hours of trainings and meetings on the new collaborative, startup-inspired Samsung

    Nothing else will change, I guarantee it. Korean work culture is like Japanese work culture -- authoritarian is putting it mildly when discussing management style. The idea is nice, but you can't run a huge corporation whose employees depend on its continued existence as a startup. There's just too much chance some hotshot MBA in some division will end up tanking the whole thing. I've been at companies where it has somewhat worked out, but only after the company realizes they're still huge and bureaucratic, and focuses on getting individual teams to work better together.

  25. I hear they are asking KPCB to fund them... by tlambert · · Score: 1

    I hear they are asking KPCB to fund them... begging for money? Now THAT'S a startup!

  26. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the British Commonwealth, the move towards democracy came as the Monarchy gradually gave up power. Just because it happened differently in one very notable case, doesn't mean it can never happen otherwise.

  27. Summary by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Expected late working hours... Expected drinks with colleagues after work into the late hours... overtly sexist atmospheres and goings-on at bars....Even kids are in on the ingrained culture - they go to cram schools into the late hours past midnight,

    So what you are saying here is that Samsung is already a tech startup.

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  28. Especially there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tou will here the words "5000 years of civilization" there frequently. What they neglect to mention is that its authoritarian top down culture inherited from China. Companies began in Europe and democracy and republicanism too. These concepts, together with liberalism, which are at the heart or modern startup culture are completely alien to Koreans and Asia in general. Samsung is actually what we call a fascist company. It was formed by the state in the dictaorship of president Park ()

  29. So, latest Android updates ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, latest Android updates even on old Samsung Note 2 ?

  30. Superficial by sjbe · · Score: 1

    If true that is about the most superficial way possible to "act like a startup". Stuff like a ping pong table are just trappings. You have to really change the company culture (very hard to do) to have it actually mean anything.

  31. They need it by ADRA · · Score: 1

    I had friends that started working in Samsung. They aren't friends anymore. The company grinds down employees till they break and you either take it or bail. Maybe the compensation is amazing, who knows.

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  32. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    ...is definitely an announcement that top executives are going to sign a pledge.

    I hope everyone realise that pledge isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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  33. There Will Be Blood by careysub · · Score: 1

    I wish them the best of luck, and no doubt they are right about the problems of their management culture.

    But this sort of thing is invariable ugly. Like modifying an aircraft in mid-flight. When making the changes you usually get the worst of both worlds, for quite awhile. This can drive an organization to complete failure. Small organizations have better luck at this.

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    1. Re:There Will Be Blood by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      I wish them the best of luck, and no doubt they are right about the problems of their management culture.

      But this sort of thing is invariable ugly. Like modifying an aircraft in mid-flight. When making the changes you usually get the worst of both worlds, for quite awhile. This can drive an organization to complete failure. Small organizations have better luck at this.

      "All employees are required to abandon authoritarian culture now. Any employee who deviates from this rule will earn a verbal warning, followed by a written warning and possibly termination if such behavior continues. Supervisors are required to monitor their direct reports for adherence to this new improved culture and intervene when appropriate non-authoritarian behavior is not evident."

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      Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
  34. A good step by null+etc. · · Score: 2

    I'll admit to being pretty excited if Samsung can actually make this work. Samsung's excellence in product manufacturing has long been hampered by poor product vision, scattershot branding and marketing strategies, and a general lack of being on the same wavelength when it comes to anticipating what features consumers will actually want and use.

    If acting like a startup can help them shed these shortcomings, we can expect to see some exciting products coming out of Samsung in the next six to twelve years. That should be just in time for when Apple comes down off the revenue bubble presently sustained by its perpetual, but largely uninteresting, product updates.

  35. Sociopaths running everything by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Sociopaths are running nearly everything. A Samsung CEO isn't content making tens of millions of dollars a year; he needs to make billions overnight, like the Zuckerbergs and Brins. So who cares that 90% of startups fold, and that 99.999% will never see the fluky success of the big IPOs. Who cares that there's no logic or skill behind those flukes; no revolutionary ideas, just being the lucky SOB with the right incremental idea at the right time with the right suckers. Who cares that startups are lean because they have to be; they can't afford highly specialized market analysis teams, a trained sales force, diverse domain experts, scientists and engineers with proven track records--everything that a larger company can do to actually understand the marketplace and build products that actually solve customers' needs. Let's waste all those specialized resource, flatten all the hierarchies, throw all the ingredients into a big blender and produce homogenized slop. No evil waterfall planning here!

  36. Does this mean no more locked down hardware? by LaughingRadish · · Score: 1

    So, if they're going to behave more like a startup, does that mean that they're no longer going to make it difficult to customize their Android phones? Last time I checked, they were still locked down such that you cannot write to the boot loader and that means no rolling your own Android or using Cyanogenmod.

  37. Sure Samsung. 8 days early with this announcement? by TheMadTopher · · Score: 1

    Today is only March 24th.

  38. End of dual management structure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean they will finally end the dual management structure at the US sites? One of the impediments at Samsung Austin Semiconductor site has been the dual Korean and American management structure where the American managers are expected to take care of daily operations while each Korean "shadow"/counterpart/whatever manager makes the final decision and can overrule any American. The structure made some sense when the site opened in 1996 but to continue it today does not make any sense. Their idea will probably be to layoff of American managers not of Korean descent.

  39. Re: The first step away from a "top-down culture". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And men lost all their privledges and women had the marriage age increased and increased.

  40. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by ffkom · · Score: 2

    I once was a participant in such a "retreat". And believe me, even if you are a senior manager, you've got no way of telling your CEO that all this talk about "values" and "statements" is utter bullshit unless you actually start changing how you act, not just how you talk. But changing how you act might involve doing things with no immediate ROI seen by the C-level guys, so it does not happen. This "management retreat" stuff is just a complete waste of time.

  41. Haguksik Saeopche aningunyo... by Zanadou · · Score: 1

    As someone with extensive experience in (*South* !) Korea, I'll note that this whole concept sounds as Korean as eating Corn Flakes mixed with kimchi.

    Good luck with that.

    1. Re:Haguksik Saeopche aningunyo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to point out that cheese goes well on *everything* Korean. Also the chili isn't even indigenous Korean.

  42. Re:The first step away from a "top-down culture".. by sjames · · Score: 2

    So close and yet so far! If they had stayed away another year or two, the company might have made a dramatic recovery.

  43. LOL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bwahhhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhhaahahahahha!

  44. Obligatory Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://dilbert.com/strip/2012-02-09
    http://dilbert.com/strip/2013-01-03

  45. great, startup culture again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung didn't get the memo that 90% of Startups fail, typically min more than 4 yrs.

    These types of moves are drastic and indicates a company has too much free money.

    1. Re:great, startup culture again... by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      Samsung didn't get the memo that 90% of Startups fail, typically min more than 4 yrs.

      These types of moves are drastic and indicates a company has too much free money.

      somebody upstairs reads Wired or Fast Company too much.

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      Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
  46. Hmmm. by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Change Everything

    Hmmm. I wonder if this means the Galaxy S8 will get back a removable battery, or IOW, a GOOD battery design. And implement a no-sense-zone at the edges so it doesn't keep doing random shit the way my s7 does unless I hold it open palm, no fingers on the sides. Oh, and put my groups back in the damned phone. Maybe actually properly transfer my shite from my current phone to my next phone (my note 3 -to- S7 "transfer" moved about half my apps, and no app data at all. THAT was unpleasant.)

    Nah. Probably means they'll just take the removable memory card out of the next model. "Whoops." :/

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  47. Re: The first step away from a "top-down culture" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And now cats and dogs are living together.

  48. It's such a small thing Samsung does, by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    that sets them apart, and above.

    I have a Samsung Monitor and when you turn it on the power light goes off. Every other display the power light comes on, my Panasonic Plasma it's a red light set dead center at the bottom of the screen.

    1. Re:It's such a small thing Samsung does, by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      that sets them apart, and above.

      I have a Samsung Monitor and when you turn it on the power light goes off. Every other display the power light comes on, my Panasonic Plasma it's a red light set dead center at the bottom of the screen.

      well, when you think about it, having a light light up when the screen is on is kind of redundant.

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      Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
  49. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will they stop photocopying Apple? http://fortune.com/2011/05/09/inside-apple/

  50. hope it works by gzuckier · · Score: 1

    then maybe some of the equally large and fossilized american corporations will try it.

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    Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
  51. It's A Culture Thing by Ninja+Engineer · · Score: 1

    A cultural change will never happen without the likes of a Chairman Lee Kun-hee to lead, and lead, and slash, and lead, and slash, and lead. He truly did lead Samsung from the stone age to modernity by relentlessly demanding the desired behaviour (Quality, Not Quantity) from his underlings and by punishing back-sliders. His shoes are now empty.

    Recently I was employed by one of their companies, Samsung Engineering Co., Ltd, and the culture of rewarding ineptitude and of accepting rigid self-serving idiots as leaders was staggering.

    Samsung Group will survive because of its size and because the Korean government won't let it perish. But its 15 minutes of fame are over, as are the sunny days of fame and fortune in all of Korea.

    My prediction is that all earlier profits will be lost and the company will be a stagnant third-tier player within 18 months.