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Behind the Scenes of NASA's Orbital ATK ISS Resupply Mission (hothardware.com)

Reader MojoKid sheds more light on NASA's unmanned cargo ship: The Orbital ATK CRS-6 mission that launched last week at NASA Cape Canaveral, Florida not only delivered supplies to the International Space Station (ISS), but also carried a number of research projects on NASA's Cygnus spacecraft. On board the CRS-6 were Gecko Grippers, which attempt to mimic the adhesion properties of gecko feet. Through the use of nanomaterials, Gecko Grippers can be repeatedly applied and removed from a surface without losing their adhesive properties via the use of van der Waals forces. They are also unaffected by temperature, pressure or radiation. Also in tow for the mission are supplies for the Saffire Experiment, which will be the largest man-made fire in space with data beamed back to earth so researchers can understand its properties and results. It's also impressive to see the NASA VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building), which is one of the biggest structures in the world covering 8 acres and measuring 525 ft tall, as well as the SLS Crawler, which is designed to move large spacecraft components supporting up to 18 million pounds and has been utilized for the Apollo and Space Shuttle programs.

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  1. Need mod points [Re:fp -- IDEA FOR WHIPLASH] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If only I had mod points, I'd mod this down.

    Ob: https://www.penny-arcade.com/c...

    1. Re:Need mod points [Re:fp -- IDEA FOR WHIPLASH] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only I could, I'd mod this funny. PS the GIFT applies whether to screennames or anonymous attributions. It's still anonymity when compared with real life unless you are using your real name everywhere.

  2. Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriuosly, things like resupply missions should be being done by private industry and should be at around $10-20 per pound. I'd like to know how much this one cost to send up? We have the capability now and we should be rapidly advancing it.

    1. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      a number of resupply missions are done by private companies now....

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    2. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you get the $10 to $20 per pound number? UPS or Fedex? I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but this is sending stuff into space. If you're going to quote a $10-$20 per pound price as what it should cost, you'd better have some damn good sources as to why this number is valid when I don't think you can overnight something for that price.

    3. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They are done by the private industry...

      The Cygnus spacecraft is owned by Orbital, not NASA (the article summary used here isn't very clear on that). NASA contracts ALL U.S. resupply missions out to Orbital ATK and SpaceX.

      Link: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/structure/launch/index.html

    4. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

      They are done by the private industry... The Cygnus spacecraft is owned by Orbital, not NASA (the article summary used here isn't very clear on that). NASA contracts ALL U.S. resupply missions out to Orbital ATK and SpaceX.

      So far.

      But they just added Sierra Nevada to the list of commercial resupply providers:
      https://www.nasaspaceflight.co...
      http://www.sncorp.com/AboutUs/...

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    5. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Chatterton · · Score: 1

      $10-$20 is certainly for fedex :) The price range is more in the 4.000$ to 13.000$ per Kg for sending stuff at LEO. It has been said that spaceX could break the 1.000$/Kg barrier.

    6. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      should be at around $10-20 per pound

      Why, other than your religious belief. Can you show the economics of what something should be?

    7. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by gman003 · · Score: 1

      Hey dumbass, this was a private industry launch. NASA has been contracting with independent companies for cargo to the ISS since the Space Shuttle stopped flying - both to Russian space firms, and to several American ones.

      For this flight, the contract was to Orbital ATK, but due to the grounding of the Antares 100 lift vehicle (after one exploded in late 2014), Orbital ATK subcontracted the launch vehicle (at their own cost) to United Launch Alliance. The Cygnus spacecraft is also made by Orbital ATK, and is part of the cost.

      Total cargo was 3513kg. It was part of an ongoing NASA contract, with precise details not known, but the original contract was $1.9B for eight flights, or $237M per launch. This contract was later extended with three more flights, presumably at similar costs.

      This was the heaviest Cygnus launch to date, so dividing the payload mass by the cost gives us a lower bound on cost-per-mass of $67K per kilogram, or $31K per pound. So you're off by at least two orders of magnitude, probably closer to three.

      Incidentally, the price-per-kilogram of a Saturn IB launch was $25K/kg (or thereabouts - it never flew to the ISS's orbit, so I had to make some estimates), and the price-per-kilogram of a Space Shuttle launch was $98K/kg (full program cost divided by successful launches) to $28K/kg (individual launch cost). All three of those numbers are adjusted for inflation, BTW, I'm not trying to bullshit on this. Also incidentally, the Falcon 9/Dragon flights to the ISS under the same program have a cost-per-mass of $40K/kg (they're more public with their pricing), although this includes a substantial deorbiting payload, which only SpaceX currently offers in any substantial amount.

      And for one last dose of perspective, shipping from L.A. to NYC is $23/kg ($9/lb), for an overnight Fedex shipment of 400kg (the mass of the earliest test CRS flights). You literally think that shipping to outer space should cost no more than twice what it costs to ship around the country. Maybe you should get some perspective before you start bitching?

    8. Re: Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just what we need: another uninformed person who knows exactly what to do. I mean, all the experts and people who do this stuff for a living just can't compare to your towering genius, right?

      How do you know what a launch should cost? How do you know private is better in this context? Probably because Fox News told you so I assume.

      A smart person always questions. A dumb one is always sure.

    9. Re:Why hasn't this been privatized yet? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Frankly, if you look into it, all space missions were done by private companies....

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  3. Re:fp -- IDEA FOR WHIPLASH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new anonymous coward troll overlords.

  4. Re:fp -- IDEA FOR WHIPLASH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mooooooooooooo!

  5. PHAH! by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    It's like what, 250 miles? A man on a bicycle could easily cover that distance in a day.

    These government contractors are featherbedding and milking a sweet deal.

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  6. How incipid and trivial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obama's space program has become. The future is not what I thought it would be in space when I watched Apollo 11.

    1. Re:How incipid and trivial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *insipid *NASA *stupidly imagined it to be

    2. Re:How incipid and trivial by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Reality is not responsible for living up to your ill-informed fantasies.

  7. and FURTHERMORE by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    All these government contractors are charging some embarrassingly inflated $/lb to transport cargo to the ISS.
    ATK says they're sending 4400 lbs, but when it gets there, what does it weigh? ZERO! So (0 + 4400)/2 * $/lb means there additionally soaking our government for TWICE the weight of cargo actually shipped. These villains have no shame about raping the public purse of the Republic.

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  8. What is a Titan V? by Foundling · · Score: 1

    I read the article. I worked at Vandenberg AFB and have been sent to Canaveral for work. I checked Wikipedia to see if something dramatic has changed in the past few months. Why does the article yammer about something called a "Titan V", which does not exist?

    1. Re:What is a Titan V? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a typo from a C- liberal arts journalist. The rocket is Atlas V, not Titan. The night launch below is labelled correctly.

  9. Behind the scenes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What's your job?"

    Well, I gotta hook this hose to that thing and fill it up. See, first ya gotta take this special wrench and put it on there, and then - oh wait, first ya have to be sure that red switch is down, cause if it's up then hooey kablooie! So anyways, ya use that wrench to take the cover off, and you better wear a mask cause that stuff in there is nasty! That'll clear your sinuses right up, ha! So then ya put the hose on there, which is a little tricky cause it's got this special latch thing with a spring that ya gotta turn just so, and, oh yeah, first ya gotta hook that green wire up, yeah, right there, cause you don't want no sparks. Blammo!, ya know? So ya hook the hose on, and set the latch so it don't come flyin' off when all that stuff is goin' in. It's pretty cold, too, so ya gotta wear gloves, and yer supposed to wear goggles and overhauls too but sometimes the goggles fog up so mostly I just wear 'em up on my head and pull 'em down when the supervisor comes over, ya know? So then ya flip that switch - but wait, first ya gotta call the control room guy and tell him ya got the hose hooked up right and is it ok to turn on? So then when he says it's ok you flip the switch and WHOOSH it fills right up quick! Ya gotta watch that gauge there, and when it says "full" ya gotta flip the switch back off, cause you don't wanna over fill it, or else, ya know, kablooie!

    "So what kind of school did you have to go to, to get this job?"