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Tesla Receives 115,000 Model 3 Preorders Worth $115 Million In 24 Hours (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Over 115,000 reservations at $1,000 each were placed for the Model 3 in the first 24 hours. This gives Tesla a little extra operating cash. If each tech-savvy enthusiast who preordered the Model 3 in the first 24 hours follows through with their $35,000 purchase, Tesla would make $4 billion in sales. Right now, they're sitting pretty with $115 million from the down payment required for preordering. It looks like Tesla may have a big hit on their hands.

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  1. The hype train by Thanshin · · Score: 3

    Ultimately, the hype train ended up being an electric car. Who'd'a' thunk it.

    One more major electrical energy sink that will concentrate in a very small portion of the day.

    Time to invest in energy accumulating techs.

    1. Re:The hype train by tibit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Very small portion of the day? Charging is typically done at night, when the demand for electricity is the lowest. It's actually a win-win for electric utilities, since they get paid for what amounts to unused capacity sitting idle and costing them money.

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    2. Re:The hype train by Robotbeat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a Volt. It charges at night, and you can set the charge time to be whenever you want. If utilities simply charged for time of use (which makes the most sense as it'd be the closest to the true cost), then owners would simply choose to charge whenever the price was lowest. With a Volt, I have a relatively small battery, so while I can choose when to charge at night, I can't easily shift charging to other days. With a 215 mile battery, you can now choose when you want to charge, just like you can choose when you want to fill up, particularly if workplace chargers are installed. This has the effect of actually leveling out the peaks and troughs in supply and demand BETTER than no EVs at all, not concentrating it in a "very small portion of the day."

      Also, batteries are "energy accumulating tech." Tesla is building a Gigafactory (the initial portions of which are already operational) that will surpass the current global total Li-Ion production capacity. The Powerwall, and the utility-scale Powerpack (which is actually a big deal), beat basically all other grid-tied battery tech options available today. So if you want to "invest in energy accumulating techs," I suggest you buy Tesla stock.

    3. Re:The hype train by Aqualung812 · · Score: 2

      In places with a lot of sun and solar panels like Hawaii, wouldn't there be more power during daylight hours?

      It's hard to overstate the amount of power used during the day.
      Every office building of any size in Hawaii is likely using A/C, and shutting it down or using far less at night.
      Add to that any type of daytime industry, from restaurants to factories, and the hours that people are sleeping just can't even remotely compare.
      The peak seems to be around the time everyone gets home from work.
      Check out this page from Hawaii's electric company.
      See that big dip from around midnight to 6am? Charging time. If there are enough people charging during that time, the yellow base load rises and power becomes cheaper. Power that can be generated at a steady rate is cheaper than power on demand.

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  2. Re:I have a suspicion... by Thanshin · · Score: 2

    If it is, it's a very smart one, as you can go to Tesla's site and preorder, and news sites are showing pictures of the long lines at different countries Tesla stores.

    A "funny" way of checking how much a starting hype train of 100k people would get them.

  3. Re:That's a lot of cash... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... for an overhyped fugly overpriced piece of cheap tat.

    Yes, it's for latte slurping 'hipsters' no self respecting Android user would be caught dead in one.

  4. $115M in operating cash? by darthsilun · · Score: 3, Funny

    I dunno about you, but for building cars, $100M isn't a lot of money.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:$115M in operating cash? by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed - far more valuable than the money from the reservations is the amount of investment money they'll be able to attract given such a demonstrated customer interest level.

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  5. What this means by RubberDogBone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A typical modern sedan auto factory making your average Camry or Sonata or Accord turns out about 30,000 cars a month. Sometimes more, sometimes less. And usually there are 1-2 months of downtime and maintenance. Figure roughly 300,000 cars a year.

    Tesla is saying they've pre-sold roughly four months of production, before people see the announcement and decide to order one and add more numbers to the list. They sold something like 25,000 MORE pre-orders during the reveal event. This is pretty spectacular by any standard, and more so considering Tesla's annual production rate for the Model S was only 50,000 in 2015. The S is seasoned design which they no doubt assemble fairly efficiently.

    This really mean they have sold the equivalent of two plus years of new cars, probably more like three because they won't be at peak output anywhere near the beginning of production. It may take a year to fully ramp up.

    To summarise: Damn fine sales, Tesla. Congratulations!

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  6. Score 101 by jez9999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Good to see Slashdot finally take the leap to the digital age and do comment scores in binary!

  7. Re:Slashdot Plays Annoying April Fools Joke... by Zocalo · · Score: 2

    Yep, they appear to be using 8bit the mod scores (-1 shows as 11111111) and presumably, since leading zeros are stripped and they'd want an octet boundary, at least 32bits for the UIDs.

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  8. Re:With capacity of not 50,000 a year... by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

    150.000 / 50.000 = 30

    So... How's that job market for social studies graduates?

  9. Re:Slashdot Plays Annoying April Fools Joke... by geantvert · · Score: 2

    Really? I still see them in base 10

  10. Re:I have a suspicion... by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

    Re:I have a suspicion... (Score:10)

    Is anyone else seeing this? April 1st, scores are in binary?

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  11. Re:I have a suspicion... by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No. It looks normal to me?

  12. And by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    The hatefest on Slasdot goes into defcon 5

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    1. Re:And by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 2

      The hatefest on Slasdot goes into defcon 5
      Normal readiness? You do know the scale counts down to 1 with 5 being the least severe right?

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  13. Re:comparsion stats? by rhazz · · Score: 2

    I agree a lot of it is hype, but apparently hype worth putting down $1000 for. As noted here, the top selling electric vehicles are selling about 30,000 units per year. Four times that amount were pre-ordered and it hasn't even been a full day yet.

    This specific product isn't available yet but their other products are, and people like what they see. This isn't like Google Glass, the demand is real.

  14. Re:I have a suspicion... by Sique · · Score: 4, Informative

    11111111 is just -1 for a "signed byte" or a signed integer of 8bit.

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  15. $7500 federal income tax credit by zerofoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Reserving one of these cars now increases the likelihood that your car will be eligible for the $7500 tax credit. As I understand it, this credit only applies to the first 200,000 qualifying vehicles sold by a manufacturer. At last estimates, Tesla sold about 100,000 or so vehicles which leaves about 100,000 credits left.

    I reserved mine last night. The deposit is fully refundable. At the very least, I think I've got a shot at getting the federal credit.

    It's not a bad deal.

    1. Re:$7500 federal income tax credit by craighansen · · Score: 2

      Reserving one of these cars now increases the likelihood that your car will be eligible for the $7500 tax credit. As I understand it, this credit only applies to the first 200,000 qualifying vehicles sold by a manufacturer. At last estimates, Tesla sold about 100,000 or so vehicles which leaves about 100,000 credits left.

      I reserved mine last night. The deposit is fully refundable. At the very least, I think I've got a shot at getting the federal credit.

      It's not a bad deal.

      Note that only US sales count against the 200k limit. Based upon some knapkin-scratch computation (I got to an estimate of 175k by end of 2017), the 200k figure (assuming 50% of sales are in the US and 50% annual sales growth) seems likely to be hit about the end of 2017, which is when the Model 3 is supposed to start shipping. It's not a sure thing, as sales over the next two years may be depressed by the Model 3 announcement (as iPhone new model expectations depress sales of existing models), and Telsa has been at least a little late in first shipping of each new model. I'd estimate that if you don't get an early order of the Model 3, you're not likely to get the 7.5k bonus rebate from the US, unless Congress (hah!) sees fit to extend the program.

  16. $10k on a charger? Not really. by zerofoo · · Score: 2

    The charger included with Tesla vehicles only needs a NEMA 14-50 outlet in your garage. That means you need a two-pole 50A breaker - 6-3 wire and a NEMA 14-50R receptacle installed......hardly $10k - more like $300 worth of materials and a half a day's work for a competent electrician.

    Your charging solution should cost $800 bucks or so.

  17. Zero Operating Cash by Mondragon · · Score: 2

    This money cannot be used by Tesla, there is zero operating cash acquired by people pre-ordering a product.

    When (and *only* when) the cars are actually delivered, depending on various accounting rules and commercial regulations, Tesla *may* be able to profit from any interest made on these payments. These payments express interest and are an excellent way for Tesla to factor real production needs (more than just adding your name to a list), but the actual monetary value to Tesla in the short term is nil.

  18. The average price of a new car by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

    Last year the average price of a new car was $33,560:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

    So, basically, Tesla just introduced an electric model that is the same price as a non-electric car.

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  19. Re:That's a lot of cash... by ranton · · Score: 2

    For most people paying 2-3 times that of a normal car is too much, period. $20-$25,000 buys a lot of gas.

    A Cadillac or Corvette are both already 2-3 times the cost of a normal car. The current Tesla models are not more expensive than other cars in their class, and neither will the Model 3.

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  20. Re:That's a lot of cash... by Ravaldy · · Score: 2

    That's correct. The model 3 will go for 35k USD. In Canada that will be 45k. The government provides a 8.5k credit which brings the car to a more reasonable price range.

    Additionally your upkeep should be 1-4k less over 5 years at about 25km / year. No oil changes, no coolant changes, not as many brake changes, no air filters...
    Adversely, at the 8 year mark the battery will probably need replacing and I'm sure that won't be cheap.

    If you buy the Model 3 you don't do it to save money, you do it to promote innovation.