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US Won't Say How Many H-1B Workers Are Female (computerworld.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the diversity-in-the-workplace dept.

dcblogs quotes a report from Computerworld: When the U.S. begins accepting applications for new H-1B skilled-worker visas today, we can be certain that tech workers from India will make up a large portion of the requests. While program data shows which job categories, countries and companies are awarded the most visas, the federal government says it is not tracking applicants' gender -- although the question is asked on the visa application form. The U.S. begins accepting H-1B visa applications on April 1 for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) will not release the gender data. It has rejected a Senate request for the information, as well as public records requests from the IEEE-USA and Computerworld. The Anita Borg Institute, which advocates for women in technology, believes "it would be very helpful to have better data on the gender diversity of H-1B visa recipients," said Telle Whitney, the president and CEO of the institute. "Our anecdotal experience is that most H-1B visa recipients are men and that this can have a negative impact on increasing the participation of women in the technical workforce," she said.

89 comments

  1. Finally, SJW's might do some good by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They might accidentally do a good thing here.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd like to see which they pick to hire if we restrict them to a choice between an Indian female and an American male.

    2. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you really want to make SJW heads explode, force them to choose between Indian females and American black males. They'll have to break out an oppression/victimhood chart and do some algebra on that one.

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    3. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by david_thornley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We're talking about H-1Bs here. If there's a qualified American candidate, there is no justification for the H-1B. If the company is cheating, they'll take the Indian. I don't see that gender is going to matter here.

      They're gathering the information, so I don't see why they can't tell us. I'm not particularly interested, but I like data the US government has to be publicly available if possible.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    4. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      The problem is that they're all cheating as a matter of course, or at least such a large majority of them that there's little effective difference one way or another.

      And its hardly the only thing they all cheat on either; You'd be shocked if you realized just how many IT companies never, as a rule, pay their employees overtime, and how few IT workers realize they're actually entitled to it, despite their employers' claims that the employment contract they signed supersedes state law.

    5. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't see that gender is going to matter here.

      Oh but there is.

      Not only are there no qualified candidates in the US, but in a question of qualified candidates from the rest of the globe, if there is a qualified female candidate, well then the choice is clear.

      And especially when companies have to justify not only a lack of American candidates, but a lack of female candidates from a population of 9 billion, will you see any scrutiny towards the program from the larger public.

      It's funny how human trafficking only has a face when women are involved, yet scalping from other countries is perfectly okay when we do it.

    6. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      That's easy! You hire the American candidate in order to train the H-1B and then lay off the American. Duh!

    7. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by tom229 · · Score: 1

      You beat me to it. I still don't know if it erases even 1% of the ham they've caused, but it's at least something.

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      If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    8. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely. They're swine!

    9. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by khallow · · Score: 1

      I don't see that gender is going to matter here.

      It has the potential to enlarge the conflict by bringing in the PC crowd.

    10. Re: Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      True. The vast majority of human trafficking is male. And literally every news piece you see on the subject paints it as a female issue.

      Men are enslaved in countless places around the world: mining, fishing, farming, forced military service, labor,etc.

      Male human trafficking has always exceeded female trafficking by a massive margin.

    11. Re: Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the hilarious part is, if forced to make the choice between a female worker and an American make worker, there might actually be a shortage of female foreign tech workers.

      Go for it SJW's. This could be unexpectedly awesome.

    12. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by houghi · · Score: 1

      If the companies were all about money AND cheat, would they not hire female Indians? I heard you only need to pay them 70%.

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    13. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      As someone who has been accused of being an "SJW", for me this is really simple. Just give the job to the best candidate. You did your bit to help diversity, as demonstrated by the fact that they both applied. Now pick the better candidate without bias or prejudice.

      Did your head explode?

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    14. Re: Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Males are basically expendable. You can wipe out ~80% of males within a particular generation, and the remaining males can have all the females fertilized and producing offspring without too many negative genetic consequences. Labor is significantly disrupted, but that evens out within 15-20 years when the next generation of offspring comes of age.

      Furthermore, female slavery usually involves sexual activity which is considered to be forced on the females in question. It's hard to tell the difference between slavery and "normal" subsistence labor conditions when some male travels hundreds or even thousands of miles for the opportunity to do hard labor for meagre wages.

    15. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt that you would have been accused an SJW for this response - that's the right way to do things. But many deserving of the title SJWs would do aforementioned algebra which is anything BUT picking the better candidate without bias or prejudice.

    16. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      I don't see that gender is going to matter here.

      But it does raise the issue of sex imbalance.

      The West has a shortage of nubile women because, as an unintended consequence of women being able to earn equal salaries, many have turned their back on men completely, or after a short fling. Others (large numbers in the UK, don't know about the USA) have a child while single and then permanently withdraw from the "dating" scene to bring up their child - while the Jock father is back in the dating scene the very next day. Hence the innumerable complaints (in Internet forums generally and quite often here) from the less Jock-like men that they cannot find a girlfriend (often leading to the disasterous Thai/Russian bride route). [Before you ask, I am married, and not to a Thai bride]. I see a future (in a generation or two) where most women are either career followers or hookers, and male-female partnerships the exception.

      So thousands of single male immigrants from India or anywhere else is the last thing the West needs as a society. To hell with Facebook increasing its already massive profits; it might be more ethical for them to invest in brothels and just import female H-1B workers.

    17. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indian female. every single time. That's what the article is about.

    18. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Your post seems to be the only one getting close to the likely truth: that there are far more female H1B's than male... hence the reason TPTB don't find it convenient to disseminate the numbers...

    19. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      many have turned their back on men completely, or after a short fling.

      Rest assured, it's not any of the females we need concern ourselves over.

    20. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems to me that the people who are unqualified are the CEO's and upper management of most major USAian corporations. How else can you explain the fact that foreign companies are able to buy floundering US assets and turn them into power houses over night under new management (e.g. IBM and Lenova). I look eagerly look forward to the day when Bob Igor, head of Disney, is replaced by a cheap cost effective and great for share holder value Filipino Guest Worker.

      We do not have a labor shortage. We have a leadership shortage. We need to hire foreign guest workers right now to fill the halls of the government and corporate management.

    21. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Intron · · Score: 0

      Your idea would be fine except that hiring managers meet with the people that they hire and then make a subjective decision on what "best" means. Tests have shown that if you swap the resumes and verbal responses given by the applicants, "best" still tends to be the white male. I think you fail at SJW-ness.

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    22. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . If there's a qualified American candidate, there is no justification for the H-1B.

      A lot of these so-called "qualified American candidates" are drooling idiots. If we have to pick between idiots, we always pick the cheaper one.

    23. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      They'll have to go to therapy two extra days a week for the next year once they realize it.

    24. Re:Finally, SJW's might do some good by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see these studies.

  2. .....ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't tell if April fools or if someone somewhere actually cares that the outsourcing all our tech jobs isn't gender balanced?

  3. Unspoken assumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Women are not considered valuable enough employees to be recruited for H-1Bs. Local "diversity hires" are made for political reasons. It's almost like the market is responding to social pressure.

    1. Re:Unspoken assumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am more worried on the gender breakdown of US workers displaced by the H-1Bs.

    2. Re:Unspoken assumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gender breakdown of US workers displaced by the H-1Bs is trivial. The fact that ANY US worker is displaced by an H-1B worker is unacceptable.
      Until Americans commit acts of violence regularly (such as assassinating high-level executives) over this, it will not stop.

  4. Classic ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Always funny when feminists go off track and bark at their masters. We get "diversity" forced down our throats by the same people who fight to keep their important Indians male.

    "Gender data is a curious omission considering U.S. government initiatives such as TechWomen, which is aimed at supporting "women in leaders in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) from Africa, Central Asia and the Middle East"."

    You'd almost think policy was carefully designed to attack white men rather than help women.

    1. Re:Classic ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White guys are just the priority target, but it's more about their whiteness than their gender. As the current news shows.

    2. Re:Classic ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      White guys aren't victims because groups aren't victims. Victims are INDIVIDUALS. And yes, *individual* white men can be victims, the same as any other individual. If you have a white guy who gets passed over for a job solely on the basis of his skin color or gender, yeah he's a victim just as much as a black female who gets passed over for the same reason. What the fuck good does it do so white guy that his ancestors were privileged in the past? It doesn't change the fact that he just got fucked over in the present.

    3. Re:Classic ... by fche · · Score: 2

      ... and we were breathlessly waiting for your sneering analysis of same.

    4. Re:Classic ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't argue with an SJW. They're some of the most sexist individuals I have ever met.

    5. Re:Classic ... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      And they believe their own lies with a religious fervor.

  5. Sanders and Rubio on H1B by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just to keep people informed, note that Bernie Sanders and Marco Rubio voted to increase H1B visas last round (2013).

    Ted Cruz voted against, and (of course) neither Clinton nor Trump could vote.

    Here's a quote from [Facebook VP] Joel Kaplan:

    "This is a big step forward for jobs, innovation, and the American economy," Facebook's vice president of U.S. policy Joel Kaplan said in a statement e-mailed to CNET. "We've been talking with members for months about what the technology industry needs to remain competitive and this bill shows that they listened and they get it."

    1. Re:Sanders and Rubio on H1B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. Business success requires a skilled workforce, not uneducated unready workers. Displaced worker retraining programs are essential and are the only appropriate response. Complaining about one while not championing the other is irrational.

    2. Re:Sanders and Rubio on H1B by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      I believe Clinton has already said she would support more H1B's. Only Trump and Sanders have even criticized the program.

      http://www.computerworld.com/a...

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    3. Re:Sanders and Rubio on H1B by srichard25 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Business success requires a skilled workforce, not uneducated unready workers"

      I can tell you haven't worked with many H1B visas.

    4. Re:Sanders and Rubio on H1B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's video of Cruz proposing to raise the limit on H-1B visa workers. Might be the one he claimed contained a poison pill amendment, but I don't know.

  6. Microaggressive by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    More worrying is how many of these H1b people exhibit microaggressive behavior? We need to screen them so we can create inclusive safe spaces for our tech workers.

    1. Re:Microaggressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Seeing as how SJW's seem cool with Arabs raping women in Germany (as long as the rapists aren't white men, of course), I don't think microagressions will bother them too much.

  7. Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just throw all the names at gender.c and you will have reasonably reliable data. That's 5 minutes of scripting for a sysadmin in the private sector, although I guess more like 5 million dollars worth of government work.

    1. Re:Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, the data is supposedly already collected: the question is on the visa form.

      Of course, that could be problematic: the visa data is not always complete and accurate. The visa form also asks for the job title that the applicant is to fill. Reading through the 2014 USCIS report, one finds on p. 12 that

      In some instances a petitioner will leave the beneficiary’s job code blank, which we report here as “Occupation unknown”. This does not mean, however, that the position is not a “specialized occupation”.

      Beyond the fact that whoever compiled this report uses British punctuation (period outside quotation marks), this tells us that a visa application does not have to be complete and accurate in order to win approval. In fact, almost all petitions are approved. Of them, 70% are for Indians, and two-thirds for computer-related work. Education apparently isn't that big a deal: 45% have a BS or BA degree, 43% a MS or MA; less than 10% have a PhD.

      It's absolutely amazing to me that India, where millions of people still don't have electricity, still manages to produce skilled workers who can fill jobs that no American candidate can, and that half of these Indian workers have those skills with only a BS or BA. Further, apparently only India can produce these skilled workers, since 70% of all the H1Bs go to Indians.

      That, or the H1B is a pipeline for Indian managers to hire their college buddies from back home.

    2. Re:Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the data is collected but supposedly not entered electronically. They almost certainly have the names entered electronically though and that's enough.

    3. Re:Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beyond the fact that whoever compiled this report uses British punctuation (period outside quotation marks),

      That's a British thing? I thought it was a programmer thing.

    4. Re:Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Programmers use two, one inside and outside. Otherwise, if the quote ends with a question or bang, it becomes inconsistent.

      As an example, "How does this look to you?". Correct I hope.

    5. Re:Just do a simple name check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's British. The US government Style Manual specifically requires the period to go inside the quotation marks. See rule 8.141 (p. 217): "The comma and the nal period will be placed inside the quotation marks."

  8. Quality not Gender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Telle Whitney is interested in the genitalia of tech workers.

    American H1B employers are interested in the competence of tech workers.

    One can see how they might not see things the same way.

    ( And the feminazi institute is really called "Borg" ?! )

    1. Re:Quality not Gender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe someone should tell the American H1B employers that they can pay female H1B (what is that BS number) 72%(?) of what they pay male H1B workers which is already some fraction of what they would pay an equivalent US worker?

      Won't somebody please just think of the bottom line D:

    2. Re:Quality not Gender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, employers might be worried about their employees getting pregnant or married. That's less of an issue for men than women. (You flood an area with Indian women and the local men are bound to start marrying them.) Cultural differences make it more difficult for Indian men to marry.

    3. Re:Quality not Gender by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Maybe someone should tell the American H1B employers that they can pay female H1B (what is that BS number) 72%(?) of what they pay male H1B workers

      They've likely already figured this out and are even capitalizing on it; this is probably why the gov't isn't publishing the numbers (it doesn't fit with the current politically-calculated narrative).

  9. there must be at least one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    someone has to make the sandwiches!

  10. Whose side is Pres. Obama on? by myid · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    What the heck is going on? Whose side is President Obama on? The heads of most countries work to help their citizens get jobs. The one exception that I see is that come countries are taking in refugees, even if those refugees take jobs away from native-born citizens.

    But these H-1B employees aren't refugees. They won't starve if they don't get a job here, or be killed by gang violence if they can't live here.

    Whose side is Pres. Obama on?

    1. Re:Whose side is Pres. Obama on? by myid · · Score: 1

      I know this is an article about the gender of H-1B's, not the number of H-1B's. But still, it seems that Pres. Obama is trying to protect the flow of immigrants to the US. If a gender imbalance might hurt the flow, then he'll try to hide the gender imbalance.

    2. Re:Whose side is Pres. Obama on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is on the same side as President George Bush senior and President Clinton and the same side as the USAian media. He is on the side of money.

      People give Clinton shit for a blowjob and ignore the fact he accepted cash in the form of cash campaign donations from the PRC. The USA will be destroyed from within by those sworn to protect it.

      If we really want to protect the USA from an existential treat, we should be launching hellfire missiles into the whitehouse and congress.

    3. Re:Whose side is Pres. Obama on? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Sadly it is reinforced against such.

  11. Why do people care so much? by thinsoldier · · Score: 1

    Why do people care so much about the lack of women in tech but don't seem to care at all about the lack of women or men in other fields? And even when they do pretend to care in other fields there is only a push to hire more women in general in various roles but never an explicit push to put them in exactly the same dangerous jobs that are still filled by 99% males.

    1. Re:Why do people care so much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes for a great talking point for politicians. People can't talk against it because then they can be called sexist. Or there is a group of women techs that are not good enough to find jobs, so they are asking government to force businesses to hire them.

    2. Re:Why do people care so much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing as the spouse of an h1b cannot work, and most women choose to do the looking after kids thing for many years as some biological urge, just how many females will change country and bring a house-husband along?

    3. Re:Why do people care so much? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 0

      Why do people care so much about the lack of women in tech but don't seem to care at all about the lack of women or men in other fields?

      They do. Next!

      And even when they do pretend to care in other fields

      Oh I see!

      Axiom: People don't care about gender balance in other fields.
      Deduction: Therefore all caring in other fields is fake.

      I think you're silly.

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    4. Re:Why do people care so much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck does caring have to do with any of this? This is all about uncertainty.

      Rich people are uncertain that they can avoid getting stabbed in the back by other rich people. That's what EVERYTHING is about.

      Here's a little spoiler, though: if you are rich, you WILL be stabbed in the back. Doesn't matter how hard you fight it. It will happen.

    5. Re:Why do people care so much? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I think you are either blind or willfully ignorant.

  12. Is there a list of jobs supported? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have looked a few times, not that much, but I was unable to discover what percentage or number of jobs were IT, exotic dancers, hotel staff or 'other options'.

    Does anyone have a link or someway to access that information?

  13. Working as intended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The priority here is diluting the white majority; imposing a gender quota might hinder that so shut up about female H1-Bs kthxbye.

  14. let mw guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1% are female

  15. Mostly Indian men, who treat women poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have seen this first hand. Most Indian H1Bs bring their 18th century ideas about women along with them. We shuold be absolutely STOPPING H1B immigration. There is simply no need for it as study after study shows there is mo shortage of STEM workers in America. Why isn't someone going to jail for this?

    1. Re: Mostly Indian men, who treat women poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should see the culture in big indian IT companies. I heard a higher up from TCS (an idiot son of a politician with zero skills) telling to his woman IT business expert, in a big conference meeting with higher ups from IBM and SUN: "Shut up stupid woman, I know better".

  16. Not really a SWJ by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    but I've got a solution for both. We could (and I'm just floating ideas here) not screw over either demographic. I know it's crazy to think like that. Perhaps I've already said too much.

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    1. Re:Not really a SWJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, just take jobs away from white men. Problem solved.

    2. Re:Not really a SWJ by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      We could .... not screw over either demographic [Indian females and American black males]

      You should look at more porn sites. Doesn't look to me like American black males are the ones being screwed over.

    3. Re:Not really a SWJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, looks like most of them are being screwed under...

  17. I can tell you haven't either by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    they're very, very good at the specific task they're brought in for. That's the point. You don't have to train people. You don't have to worry about their long term well being. The come in ready to go for that one specific thing you need done, do it, and leave. No training costs. No retraining costs. No muss, no fuss. That's what makes them so desirable. You get specialty labor of the sort contractors used to charge $500/hr for at less than 1/20th the price. Lowering American tech Wages overall is just icing on the cake...

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    1. Re:I can tell you haven't either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lowering wages is the entire fucking bakery.

      Google et al are not importing specialty contractors. They are importing wage slaves so that they don't have to pay a market rate for american tech workers. If companies had to pay a market rate, corporate profits and CEO pay wouldn't be so bloated. Can't have that, so these fiends have decided to get congress to pass extremely undemocratic laws that benefit about 0.01% of the population at the expense of the rest.

  18. India colonization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a covert colonization. India IT workers are the most overhipped IT workers in US. Their average skill level is extremly low compared to european or american standard. This is a covert colonization initiated by some Indian guys that got to some IT companies higher management. They want to bring indians to US because they feel they can control them better. They want to create their own India in US, because they feel that the India they left home is unable to get out of the black hole in which is stuck due to the rampant corruption and lack of education.

    1. Re:India colonization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. Rest assured that plenty of white men are hiring these H1Bs.

  19. Here comes everybody by hidflect · · Score: 2

    Since Hillary has taken nearly $3Million in, ahem, donations from Tata and Infosys you can be sure there'll be plenty of new data available as the foreign workers pour in.

    Source: http://articles.latimes.com/20...

    Snip:

    Clinton is successfully wooing wealthy Indian Americans, many of them business leaders with close ties to their native country and an interest in protecting outsourcing laws and expanding access to worker visas. Her campaign has held three fundraisers in the Indian American community recently, one of which raised close to $3 million, its sponsor told an Indian news organization.

  20. women in India by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

    One of India's issues is that women are treated like second class citizens. I would be very surprised if even 1% of H-1B workers were female.

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    1. Re:women in India by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      But if you say that they're sexist that makes you a racist!

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    2. Re:women in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah! I see. We've a Ford Foundation member (which just got kicked out of India and is kissing a$$ to get in again) who says India treats women as second class citizens and it has to be true. I'm originally from India and what's true is that women are relegated to non-powerful roles in many places including home but you seem to confuse middle class India with rural India (or have no idea). You can walk into any Indian software company/startup and you'll see close to 50% of the engineers being women. Have you seen the numbers in the US? So, pulling number out of your a$$ instead of doing a bit of background work may help. And yes, I'm sure I can find a corresponding article about half the countries in Europe. I'm NOT claiming that women are not having issues and there needs to be serious reform; to somehow take that and conflate it with hiring patterns smells of bias or something stronger!

    3. Re:women in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      being an indian myself, that this is just a misinformation spread by highly feminist press of USA and India. Indian society is so much gynocentric, highly titled towards women.
      Indian male victims are just ignored even in newspaper space, and even one small single incident with a female will blown out of proportion and become a india's national issue.

    4. Re:women in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even my two sisters and one brother are IT workers in india. My "both" sisters on their own refused to goto USA, whereas my brother went on H1-B. He was working day and night there, and he was happy to do that.
      But now the feminist want to think that " if a female does not want to goto USA and is happy living in India, then it is some kind of malice which has to be fought with." Whereas the peer and family pressure on indian males to earn more and more and more, is projected by US feminists as 'crime on women' . What a creep thinking !

    5. Re:women in India by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      That is exactly how it is everywhere else too.

  21. Didn't read at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    College students in the USA need jobs. Not H1B out outsourced work.

    Republicans and Democrats alike however sold or country to India and most of Asia (China). Ted Cruz or Killary are not capable because they're owned by big business.

  22. Women are not equal in all things. by Sqreater · · Score: 1

    Women are just not as creatively aggressive as men. By imposing a quota for women H1-B workers in high tech, the entire purpose of H1-B visas is destroyed and American preeminence in technology would be threatened. Simple as that.

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    E Proelio Veritas.
  23. Leadership? by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Where are you going that you need to be led?

  24. US H1-B Visa program is not only sexist, it is rac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There should be a class action lawsuit against US government for not using Affirmative Action.

  25. Re: Actual justice might be good for a change by NickGnome · · Score: 1

    The trouble with the H-1B visa program is that it is dishonest. They *claim* it is a means to get the "best and brightest" but that is not who they hire through it. As a matter of fact, they oppose any sort of quality standards. They refuse to interview able and willing USA citizen professionals, but claim they just cannot find any *qualified* (wink wink nudge nudge) applicants. They won't say exactly what "qualified" means, but it certainly does not mean "able and willing to do the job". But, if you are from the 3rd world and you once did something via the web which triggered a data-base look-up you must be a genius, must be both best and brightest, even if you don't know object->relation migration from object-relationship modeling language, or 3rd normal form relational from hierarchical. Whereas the USA candidate who redesigned and implemented a massive logistics system couldn't possibly do a job using a toy rdbms that any half-bright HS student could figure out with a couple hours of effort, because only if he'd used that exact brand and version on the job for 2-3 years could he possibly manage to make mods or create new reports. IOW it is all DC lobbyist malarkey. There never was a skills shortage or "gap", just a tissue of lies to fool the willing media and the gullible coasters -- East and West -- and give the pols and executives a bit of cover for the cuts in training, relocation, and churn of noobs.