North Korea Launches Missile and Tries To Jam GPS Signals (go.com)

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North Korea Launches Missile and Tries To Jam GPS Signals (go.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Friday April 1, 2016 @10:44AM from the that's-cute dept.

An anonymous reader writes: Hours after North Korea fired a short-range missile into the sea in retaliation for ongoing U.S. join military drills with South Korea, they started jamming GPS navigation systems near its border with South Korea, affecting hundreds of fishing boats but not causing any immediate danger. There were no disruptions to drivers' satellite navigation system or air traffic, but warning messages were broadcast in affected areas warning ships not to rely on their GPS navigation. In a statement, the South Korean Ministry of National Defense said: "North Korea has been continuously disrupting GPS system since 7:30 pm [Thursday] and thereby interfering and hampering our military movements, which is threatening the safety of our people."

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Take them out by 110010001000 · 2016-04-01 10:47 · Score: 1

Send in the HAARP! Trump would do it!
1. Re: Take them out by LifesABeach · 2016-04-01 16:50 · Score: 1
  
  Was Linux used? If not, why is it interesting? Yellow Press is only slightly less stupid than spreading someone elses.
2. Re:Take them out by llzackll · 2016-04-01 20:43 · Score: 1
  
  he forgot to renew his hAAARP
3. Re: Take them out by Frosty+Piss · 2016-04-02 03:02 · Score: 1
  
  If you think Slashdot is solely the domain of Linux and OSS, you are mistaken, this has never been the case. Or are you just trolling?
  
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Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by kheldan · 2016-04-01 10:49 · Score: 3, Informative

The little dog that used to just go yap yap yap is now frothing at the mouth, too. Isn't it time to euthenize it?

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1. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by SuricouRaven · 2016-04-01 10:54 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The little dog's owner is China, and even if the owner admits their dog is out of control, it is still their dog. No-one wants to kill China's dog.
  I do like metaphors. They can stretch so many ways.
2. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by sittingnut · 2016-04-01 10:56 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  but who will "euthenize" nuclear armed "the little dog" ?
  same pussy cats who got bent over and spanked by even the ak47 armed afgans and iraqis? lol
3. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by peragrin · 2016-04-01 11:13 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  The difference is k47 armed afghans and iraqis don't have a leadership. you can't cut off the snake's head to kill it. As there isn't a head to cut. Hitler killing himself ended world war II, what would have happened if the SS instead of surrendering became a gorilla fighting force that never gave up?
  The USA Army walked over the iraqi army like it wasn't there. however once the big army battles were done, then the real trouble began. Only idiots didn't see it coming.(yes they happened to be in washington DC at that time)
  
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4. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:15 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  https://www.reddit.com/r/AskRe...
  The idea struck me as funny and I found this today.
5. Re: Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:35 · Score: 1
  
  This was actually a legitimate concern. The US army was bracing for a long drawn guerilla war in the alps as it was perceived the SS were building fortified positions to this end.
6. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:50 · Score: 1
  
  The funny part is that N. Korea has already threatened China as well with potential nuclear attack for siding with capitalist pigs.
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-and-china-agree-to-oppose-north-korea-nuclear-programme-a6962901.html
7. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 12:14 · Score: 1
  
  Nazi gorillas!
8. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Kjella · 2016-04-01 12:21 · Score: 2
  
  The difference is k47 armed afghans and iraqis don't have a leadership. you can't cut off the snake's head to kill it. As there isn't a head to cut. Hitler killing himself ended world war II, what would have happened if the SS instead of surrendering became a gorilla fighting force that never gave up?
  They'd become an army of trained monkeys? As for a few rebel SS soldiers, the US lost 407,300 men in WWII so a few thousand more (for comparison 4496 in Iraq, 2326 in Afghanistan) would barely hit the noise floor. If they were defending US territory nobody would even begin to question it, it's not like the casualties are any significant drain on the US armed forces. The only reason it is an issue is whether or not the US should be fighting/fixing fucked up countries on the other side of the globe, just like with Korea and Vietnam. Unlike say Pearl Harbor...
  
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9. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by CanadianMacFan · 2016-04-01 13:03 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Part of the problem the US faces is that whenever it is talked about how such a bad idea the recent wars it undertook over in the Middle East all that is mentioned is the few thousand American troops lost and the money it cost the US to wage the wars. One almost never hears about the costs inflected on Afghanistan and Iraq.
  Hundreds of thousands have died and many times that number have been maimed because of those actions. Millions upon millions of lives have been ruined. And yet all we hear from the US is the problems that the wars caused for them. Maybe the country would have more good will if it showed more sympathy towards the victims of its actions instead of showing support to politicians who propose carpet bombing areas of the Middle East.
10. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by sittingnut · 2016-04-01 13:09 · Score: 1
  
  quite apart from typos(or not?) there are other problems with your comment.
  "The difference is k47 armed afghans and iraqis don't have a leadership."
  really?
  in iraq, most of the sunni fighters and leaders are from the former army and regime. only reason they are not winning is current iran backed and almost controlled, shia regime and militias in iraq, no friends of west.
  and in afghanistan taliban(and its leadership) is more or less the same as one that was supposedly defeated.
  yes "idiots didn't see it coming" in iraq, but also in afghanistan. and idiots certainly "happened to be in washington DC at that time", but they were also in military in iraq, and in afghanistan, and now as well as then in same places.
  since you pick analogies from ww2, why not take analogies from korean war too, more appropriately.
  was that "euthanasia"? or fight to a draw? and then neither north koreans, nor chinese had nuclear weapons.
  why not draw analogies from vietnam too. didn't north koreans have a concentrated leadership too? and were they bombed with more bombs than all of ww2? was that "euthanasia"?
11. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by ChrisMaple · 2016-04-01 14:05 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  When you maliciously poke someone in the eye with a sharp stick, you have no valid complaint if he pulls out a .44 magnum and blows your arm off.
  
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12. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 14:14 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Which is why you have nothing to complain about with regards to what happened on 9/11.
13. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by CanadianMacFan · 2016-04-01 15:00 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Your analogy only works if there was someone who poked you in the eye with a sharp stick. Or at least if you shot the person who poked you. In this case someone pokes you with a stick, you pull out a gun, shoot randomly into a crowd of people in the opposite direction, and then complain loudly about the ringing in your ears.
14. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by LifesABeach · 2016-04-01 16:53 · Score: 1
  
  Regicide is stupid, review the Invasion of Iraq by President Bush Jr.
15. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 17:06 · Score: 1
  
  NK is making China look weak and indecisive. NK has drawn the attention of every military in the region. NK actions have caused the US to deploy even more Aegis destroyers and missile defense stations on the west coast. US allies in the region have also upgraded their missile defense capabilities. If the US ends up deploying the THADD missile defense system in SK China might see their nuclear deterrent being threatened. So the question is why China would allow any of this. NK may not have an ICBM capable of threatening the US but I bet they could put something together a nuclear weapon and throw it across the Chinese border.
16. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by sumdumass · 2016-04-01 19:20 · Score: 1
  
  Neither analogy works. In this case, someone is poking random people in a crowd with a sharp knife and someone starts shooting at them. Actually that doesn't work either because the two scenarios are completely different and the analogies are trying to conflate misinterpretations.
17. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2016-04-01 19:38 · Score: 1
  
  what would have happened if the SS instead of surrendering became a gorilla fighting force that never gave up?
  That would've been a hairy situation...
  
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18. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Aighearach · 2016-04-01 19:44 · Score: 2
  
  No need to invade, just destroy the missiles, artillery, and armor and call it done.
19. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Aighearach · 2016-04-01 19:45 · Score: 1
  
  gorillas and monkeys aren't even the same genus.
20. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by sittingnut · 2016-04-01 20:27 · Score: 1
  
  without invasion (or as they say "boots on the ground") impossible to all "destroy the missiles, artillery, and armor ".
  contrast the ineffectiveness of usa air strikes at islamic state in syria and iraq, with effectiveness of russian air strikes in syria backed up with assad's ground forces, which recaptured aleppo and palmyra and lots of more places not so famous.
  and this is no game, where AI waits like a fool, they will invade south korea and fire missiles at both sk and japan .and probably nuclear missiles at usa and others.
21. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by llzackll · 2016-04-01 20:49 · Score: 1
  
  you sir, are a troll. said control, where are my jelly rolls. on the poll? fear not, ill slashdot the spot with a mott.
22. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by llzackll · 2016-04-01 20:57 · Score: 1
  
  yeah but you are talking apeshit as if it had anything to do with semantics. and i know what ive had enough of and nobody else does
23. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 22:58 · Score: 1
  
  Last I checked, they haven't attacked anyone. Stop being retarded.
24. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by SuricouRaven · 2016-04-01 23:32 · Score: 1
  
  Last time I got to abuse a metaphor like that, someone compared ISIS to a criminal who attacks you in the street, and said the correct response was to beat them up - by which they meant carpet-bomb ISIS-controlled territory to kill everyone.
  I explained that this particular thug has strapped babies all over his body, knowing that few potential opponents are going to risk hitting him too hard for fear of killing some babies. Are you willing to murder babies?
25. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by tsotha · 2016-04-02 00:01 · Score: 2
  
  Right, right. That's why they Taliban is running Afghanistan.
26. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by DRJlaw · 2016-04-02 00:27 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The little dog that used to just go yap yap yap is now frothing at the mouth, too. Isn't it time to euthenize it?
  ...
  I like how you call them dogs and get an openly racist comment modded up to +5, you racist piece of shit.
  I believe both the original post and the first reply used the term "dog" (note: signular) to refer to the nation, not the term "dogs" to refer to the people. That would make them nationalist pieces of shit, not racist pieces of shit, you ignorant, race-baiting piece of shit.
27. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Hognoxious · 2016-04-02 00:31 · Score: 1
  
  the SS instead of surrendering became a gorilla fighting force
  When winter comes, Lisa, they'll simply freeze to death.
  
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28. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Solandri · 2016-04-02 04:12 · Score: 1
  
  The USA Army walked over the iraqi army like it wasn't there. however once the big army battles were done, then the real trouble began. Only idiots didn't see it coming.
  Agree with what you say except this part. A bunch of friends and I share a forum, and took a poll before the second Iraq War how long we thought the U.S. would be there. Everyone, including those against the war, estimated 2-5 years. My estimate was the longest - 2 years of actual combat, 8 years of reconstruction. And I only gave that figure because I thought if I said what I really thought (about 20 years), I would become the laughingstock of the forum for the next 5 years.
  
  So no, pretty much everyone didn't see it coming. I think my estimate was more accurate because I'm Korean, and I've seen first-hand what a PITA it is to try to reconstruct a country whose fundamental social structure has been destroyed and needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.
29. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Aighearach · 2016-04-02 08:38 · Score: 1
  
  See, that is just nonsense magical thinking.
  You're adding in words I didn't say, trying to turn it into an absolute statement. But it wasn't. I didn't say "destroy all the [stuff]," I just said to "destroy the [stuff]." The implication is that I'm talking about the main part of it. Would there be a little left? Who cares?
  You get all hand-wavy about needing to invade, based on imagined words, where the easiest solution is just to understand that isn't what is implied by my statement. Just, start out assuming I might be saying something intelligent. That way, if you disagree, you'll give your own opinions and try to support them, instead of just waving your hands and asserting opinions as facts.
  If a war breaks out, the only "missiles, artillery, and armor" that we need to worry about are the ones that are fielded. If they hide some crap in a cave, who cares? The important thing is the endgame, and that works out best if we let Korea deal with the details of that. If peacekeepers are needed later, we'd know that when the provisional unification government asked for it. And the UN would probably be encouraging China to provide a significant portion of those troops. But that would all be after the open warfare had ceased.
  Regarding Syria and Iraq, it may be simply that the US military has different goals than you presume. Also, the middle east isn't Korea.
30. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Aighearach · 2016-04-02 09:02 · Score: 1
  
  yeah but you are talking apeshit as if it had anything to do with semantics. and i know what ive had enough of and nobody else does
  The meaning of the words always has something to do with the semantics, which is all about meaning. ;)
  It is from the Greek semantikos, "having meaning."
31. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by sittingnut · 2016-04-02 09:30 · Score: 1
  
  since you don't admit to saying anything definite, only way to answer and assume you have a brain, is to articulate statements and then reply.
  you are free to say you did not say what is in those statements.
  [you said i assume]
  "we need to worry about are the ones that are fielded", but what about those "fielded"?
  in reply i will say what i said before;
  without invasion (or as they say "boots on the ground") impossible to "destroy" all the "fielded" "missiles, artillery, and armor ". ...
  what do you mean by "endgame"? "details" of which you assume can be left to (presumably) south korea to deal with?
  same south korea which do not want a war/attack, a war/attack which without doubt could devastate seoul within hours. be definite if you are "intelligent".
  what do you mean by "open warfare" that is going to "cease"? and why?
  why would china be in helping usa by providing "peacekeepers" when if it stays out of any war ( very doubtful), aimed against its ally north korea? it would let south and usa deal with results of war (if usa/south even win) and help those who will fight against usa and south after such "cessation", to bleed them dry.
  "Regarding Syria and Iraq, it may be simply that the US military has different goals than you presume".
  well if you know what their "goals" are let the world know.
  meanwhile, we know they bomb isis. and we know quite ineffectively, compared to russian strikes backed by assad army. as i said.
  middle east is certainly not korea , nor is syria, afghanistan or iraq. nor korea in 50s same as korea now . much less vietnam.
  but what about similarities? what is common to all, and tactics and methods of that common outsider, and they all ended badly to common outsider.
  to repeat you are free to remain indefinite and deny all statements . lol
32. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Aighearach · 2016-04-02 18:21 · Score: 1
  
  since you don't admit to saying anything definite, only way to answer and assume you have a brain, is to articulate statements and then reply.
  you are free to say you did not say what is in those statements.
  If you didn't understand what I said, the thing to do is to ask questions in good faith. Not to go all narcissistic and shit.
  However brilliant you think you are, you do need to presume that people "have a brain" if you want to have any chance of saying something intelligent next time.
  I read about half what you wrote, and the answers were right there in what I already said; there is an obvious good answer to each question, and it is even the most obvious perspective of somebody who said the things I already said. You should try to use "theory of mind" to understand what thought process is consistent with the positions I gave.
  You really go off the rails with the nonsense about not knowing when open warfare would cease. That was actually a main point I already articulated.
  If you don't understand my articulated positions, you're not in a position to disagree in the first place. If you understood and disagreed, then dialogue is possible. Even if you just wanted to slag my positions, you'd at least know what to point at.
33. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Coren22 · 2016-04-04 03:28 · Score: 1
  
  Please, point to exactly what the US did to Saudi Arabia, or even Pakistan/Afghanistan to cause 9/11 to happen.
  
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34. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by Coren22 · 2016-04-04 03:34 · Score: 1
  
  I would also point out, the reason for the rise of ISIS is the pullout of forces in Iraq, which was caused by the President of Iraq forcing the issue. He was warned by Bush that it was a bad idea to pull out, and negotiations were attempted, but the President of Iraq was not willing to give an inch to save his country.
  
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35. Re:Haven't we all had enough of this shit? by llzackll · 2016-04-07 00:47 · Score: 1
  
  you are either still a troll, or a literary genius, said the metaphorical penis who murdered entire genus. maybe i shall travel to venus, or mars while living large
Leave them alone? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 10:54 · Score: 1, Insightful

I wonder what is there to be gained by provoking them with militarily exercises?
People need to clean up their own shit. Who will save us if/when we will have a global dictatorship?
1. Re: Leave them alone? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:00 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Mostly it's a sign that we have South Korea's back and neither will be intimidated by North Korea's antics. If anything, North Korea is stirring things up by continuing to launch missiles, conducting nuclear tests, and making threats. I find it hard to look at this and see how either South Korea, Japan, or the US could be considered provocative in this situation. The US stirs up plenty of trouble elsewhere, but we're not doing that here. If anything, we've tried to cooperate more with China on appropriate sanctions, which is a step in the right direction.
2. Re:Leave them alone? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:47 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  The US actually likes to provoke NK. If NK gets riled up, it gives the US more excuses to place more troops or missile defenses in S. Korea/Japan. These missile defenses would do nothing to help S. Korea, considering that N. Korea has tons of artillery already pointed towards Seoul which is only a few miles from the border. Instead they only use is to help contain both Russia + China. More so towards containing China.
3. Re:Leave them alone? by dsmatthews9379 · 2016-04-01 13:59 · Score: 1
  
  This is what they get up to if you leave them alone, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
4. Re:Leave them alone? by Aighearach · 2016-04-01 19:49 · Score: 2
  
  I wonder what is there to be gained by provoking them with militarily exercises?
  Eat a little too much propaganda for breakfast?
  The purpose of military training exercises is not to "provoke" somebody, that is childish and silly.
  The purpose is to practice fighting in the conditions that a war might take place in. In case it happens.
  If we wanted to "provoke" them, we would just fire artillery across the border, and watch them be provoked.
5. Re:Leave them alone? by Alumoi · 2016-04-01 20:28 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The purpose of military training exercises is not to "provoke" somebody, that is childish and silly.
  Unless you're doing it in front of their house.
6. Re:Leave them alone? by dcollins117 · 2016-04-01 21:40 · Score: 2
  
  The purpose is to practice fighting in the conditions that a war might take place in. In case it happens.
  We gathered valuable information about North Koreas ability to jam GPS and some experience doing operations under those conditions. So, seems like a net gain for the US to me.
7. Re: Leave them alone? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 23:20 · Score: 1
  
  > If anything, North Korea is stirring things up by continuing to launch missiles, conducting nuclear tests, and making threats Isn't this what USA does most days. Launch Missiles and making threats to other countries if they don't agree to the stricy idealism of trade ie where the trading country has to bow down to the demands. When USA where conducting nuclear tests in previous years/decades were they not considered aggressors
8. Re:Leave them alone? by Aighearach · 2016-04-02 09:04 · Score: 1
  
  If they're living in the DMZ, they should not be in any way alarmed to see military action just outside the DMZ. That is every day of the year.
  That is the only way it would be in front of their house.
9. Re:Leave them alone? by Coren22 · 2016-04-04 03:53 · Score: 1
  
  Provoking NK by having announced annual military cooperation drills? You also assume that the Artillery can fire, that isn't really expected. This is 50+ year old artillery that likely doesn't have gunpowder anymore as it has to be stored very dry. NK isn't exactly rolling in the money to keep resupplying artillery that never fires with gunpowder.
  
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10. Re:Leave them alone? by coinreturn · 2016-04-04 23:58 · Score: 1
  
  I wonder what is there to be gained by provoking them with militarily exercises?
  Eat a little too much propaganda for breakfast?
  The purpose of military training exercises is not to "provoke" somebody, that is childish and silly.
  The purpose is to practice fighting in the conditions that a war might take place in. In case it happens.
  If we wanted to "provoke" them, we would just fire artillery across the border, and watch them be provoked.
  If you think the only reason we do exercises over there is to practice, then you're just eating a different brand of propaganda for breakfast.
11. Re:Leave them alone? by Aighearach · 2016-04-05 07:13 · Score: 1
  
  No, that is called an opinion.
  I accused the cowherd of "propaganda" because he was using blatant propaganda that is not reasonable. A person who dislikes military exercises because they raise tensions still knows that they are done for reasons other than "provocation." If you're trying to provoke a military, you just shoot at them. It is easy to do. It is not rational to claim that military exercises have provocation as the primary goal. It is not a rational belief; it ignores why people do things, and just asserts that they don't even know why they're doing it. It ignores that practice is reasonable on its face as a primary goal.
  Believing that military practice is indeed the main goal is not "propaganda." It is an entirely reasonable position, and it doesn't ignore that it can also raise tensions.
  You're not thinking about it, you're just saying "I know you are but what am I." Do better. Use your noggin. Practice is a real thing.
12. Re:Leave them alone? by coinreturn · 2016-04-05 23:53 · Score: 1
  
  If you re-read my post, you will see I said "If you think the only reason..."
  I never mentioned "main goal" as you say. Sometimes shooting is not the best method for provocation. Especially, if you want the rest of the world on your side. Use your noggin before making accusations of "I know you are but what am I." That's not at all what I said. Perhaps it was too subtle for you.
Re: Slashvertisement? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:01 · Score: 2, Informative

It's whiplash's way of trolling people who complain that every article about a new product is a paid advertisement. It's a joke for April Fool's Day.
Training? by jklovanc · 2016-04-01 11:05 · Score: 1

How do you think a military that has never practised in large numbers would fair if attacked? That is why it is called a training exercise.
1. Re:Training? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:59 · Score: 1
  
  The thing is that the north Korean people need to solve this.
  That is almost exactly like telling the Jews in concentration camps that they should have solved the Nazi problem.
2. Re:Training? by avgjoe62 · 2016-04-01 16:26 · Score: 2
  
  The thing is that the north Korean people need to solve this
  And that has worked out so well for the people in Syria, Egypt, and Libya.
  
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It tries too hards by roman_mir · 2016-04-01 11:07 · Score: 1

Norths Koreas Launches Missiles ands Tries To Jamsssssssssssssssssssssss GPSs Signalss.

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Toddler tantrums by Bruce66423 · 2016-04-01 11:12 · Score: 2

AFAICS North Korea is best interpreted as a toddler who is indulging in tantrums to get attention. If that's the case, we have a problem. The normal toddler can be safely ignored while it goes on and on. However such a brat is not capable of doing any real damage. Whilst we may wish to assume that the NK leadership isn't suicidal, that's a hard call given just how nutty they seem to be. However it may be the best solution - just ignore them at a real level, although letting their latest threats get into the media so they don't feel totally ignored and so raise the stakes. But it could be worse - they could believe they will be rewarded in an afterlife for being destructive...
1. Re:Toddler tantrums by MightyMartian · 2016-04-01 12:19 · Score: 2
  
  No, it's best understood as a authoritarian absolute monarchy in which the king's subject need to be continually remined of how great and undefeatable he is (the latter is very very very important). This has precious little to do with anything outside NK's borders.
  
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Jamsed! by Daetrin · 2016-04-01 11:14 · Score: 1

Sir! The radar, sir! It appears to be... jamsed!

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1. Re:Jamsed! by ihtoit · 2016-04-01 11:18 · Score: 1
  
  Lone Starr!
  
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Must be Irish by TapeCutter · 2016-04-01 11:25 · Score: 1

The English forced the Irish to wear green, so they wore it with pride.

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Jamming GPS? by JBMcB · 2016-04-01 11:33 · Score: 1

Military grade GPSes are supposedly jam-proof. They use directional antennas that can detect terrestrial-based signals and notch them out of the satellite-based signals.

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1. Re:Jamming GPS? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:44 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  There's really no such thing as "jam proof" - merely resistant. Even directional antennas are not perfectly directional, and will still receive off-axis signals, just at some attenuated strength. Any sufficiently strong nearby source can overwhelm a much more distant and weaker source.
  In a "real" war, it wouldn't be jamming that is the problem anyway. The problem would be that the GPS constellation would go bye-bye from the other guy's anti-sat weapons. Not that many countries have those, but the most sophisticated adversaries do have them.
2. Re:Jamming GPS? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 18:18 · Score: 1
  
  The problem would be that the GPS constellation would go bye-bye from the other guy's anti-sat weapons.
  According to the Wikipedia article on anti-satellite weaponry, that's highly improbable:
  "GPS and communications satellites orbit at higher altitudes of 20,000 km (12,000 mi) and 36,000 km (22,000 mi) respectively, putting them out of range of solid-fueled Intercontinental ballistic missiles. Liquid-fueled space launch vehicles could reach those altitudes, but they are more time-consuming to launch and could be attacked on the ground before being able to launch in rapid succession. The constellation of 30 GPS satellites provides redundancy where at least four satellites can be received in six orbital planes at any one time, so an attacker would need to disable at least six satellites to disrupt the network. Even if this is achieved, signal degradation only lasts for 95 minutes, leaving little time to take much decisive action, and backup inertial navigation systems (INS) would still be available for relatively accurate movement as well as laser guidance for weapons targeting."
  Destroying enough satellites to disable GPS would be both expensive and extremely difficult, especially under a war pressure situation, and even if the network were disabled it would only be temporary and there are good backups. Also, consider that GPS was originally a military project, so there may be defenses, other than the high orbits, that are not public. Certainly the planners of GPS knew that it could be an attractive target for our enemies and took steps when designing the system to address that.
3. Re:Jamming GPS? by SuricouRaven · 2016-04-01 19:38 · Score: 1
  
  I doubt it. The GPS signals are pathetically weak - it doesn't take much to overpower them.
4. Re:Jamming GPS? by Aighearach · 2016-04-01 19:52 · Score: 1
  
  It only says "trie[d]"
5. Re:Jamming GPS? by ihtoit · 2016-04-02 00:48 · Score: 2
  
  any idea how much energy is required just to reach the GPS system?
  ON TOP OF WHICH, you have to go ballistic to 12,540 miles, in 6 staggered orbits 60 degrees apart, and take out a significant number of the 32 birds to the point where it is impossible to get a lock on four at once. Which means taking down 60% of them.
  Easier just to jam it. 1575MHz gear can be had over the counter.
  
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6. Re:Jamming GPS? by ihtoit · 2016-04-02 00:51 · Score: 1
  
  if the Iraqis managed it with COTS hardware...
  
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7. Re:Jamming GPS? by JBMcB · 2016-04-02 10:56 · Score: 1
  
  Here's the tech:
  http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/Ge...
  Here's the math:
  http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/v...
  
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8. Re:Jamming GPS? by ihtoit · 2016-04-02 17:02 · Score: 2
  
  http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/... explains why it wouldn't (page 4).
  
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9. Re:Jamming GPS? by RockDoctor · 2016-04-05 06:32 · Score: 1
  
  More to the point, the military part of the signal is encrypted. If the DPRK have broken that encryption, worked out the secret keys, and can spoof signals that originate from an encrypted source, then that is far bigger news than the DPRK's acquisition of hydrogen bombs.
  As pointed out, directional antennas are not perfectly directional. and the laws of physics won't allow it to be perfect. But encryption is in the domain of maths - it's either possible or impossible. Currently our mathematicians believe (but haven't proved) that encryption is possible, but if the DPRK can prove that is not the case ... BIG story. If the DPRK prove that the USDoD's computer scientists fucked up on their implementation of encryption on the GPS satellites ... significant story, but probably fixable by a software update to the military stuff.
  From the original summary:
  
  disrupting GPS system since 7:30 pm [Thursday] and thereby interfering and hampering our military movements, which is threatening the safety of our people."
  [SHRUG] If you're not training people to be able to work without GPS, then you're making GPS even more of a target. Using map and compass, or dead reckoning (inertial navigation) are technologies that are far less prone to external tampering. So make sure you can use them. Personally, after buying my first GPS unit in 2000, and losing it to the burglars in 2003, I haven't bothered to get a replacement. For a week-long trip into the outdoors, they're not worth the weight of the batteries (and neither is turning on the mobile phone - it's not as if you've got a signal after the first 8 hours walking away from a road).
  
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North Korea really does want a peace treaty. by Anonymous Coward · 2016-04-01 11:56 · Score: 1

After all, the reality is that legally the US and S. Korea could potentially attack N. Korea at any time under the Caroline doctrine or simply because they are actually still at war and do not have to go before the UN Security Council to get their blessing.
This is unlike Iraq, where everyone knew that the US was going to strike Iraq soon, because the US had to try to get the legal blessings of the UNSC.
Re: Slashvertisement? by quenda · 2016-04-01 12:13 · Score: 1

A shame its now the 2nd in most of the world. Aren't they supposed to do those things AM local time?
Bigger stunt is the "Ads Disabled" tickbox, which seems to do nothing. Why do I still have "sponsored links" and "top deals" all over the page?
Yeah? by eyepeepackets · 2016-04-01 12:41 · Score: 1

And the rest of the world said, "So?"

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NK by rfengr · 2016-04-01 12:50 · Score: 1

NK will come to an end: either a whimper or a bang. The guaranteed part is that dear leader will be strung up with his testicles in his mouth.
Re: Slashvertisement? by starblazer · 2016-04-01 12:52 · Score: 1

nah, i'd rate OMGPOINIES!!!!!! as my #1 slashdot april fools.
Fire a missile into the sea by CanadianMacFan · 2016-04-01 13:07 · Score: 1

Wait a minute! What did the sea do? If the US and South Korea hold some aircraft training is North Korea going to attack the sky in retaliation?
Hopefully there not... by EETech1 · 2016-04-01 13:36 · Score: 1

Hopefully there not testing their missile to see how it will work after they screw with, or destroy GPS.
1. Re:Hopefully there not... by norite · 2016-04-01 14:55 · Score: 1
  
  Hopefully where?
  
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Re:No GPS by LifesABeach · 2016-04-01 16:55 · Score: 1

Did the twit ruler of N.Korea just get pissed at his GPS? It's a novel way to show one's frustration.
Re:No GPS by SuricouRaven · 2016-04-01 19:36 · Score: 2

Probably a technology test. Jamming GPS in a conflict would inconvenience the south and their allies a lot more than the north, so it's understandable they'd want the capability.
North Korea's unrequited war against the sea . . . by LostMonk · 2016-04-01 21:02 · Score: 1

I'm still waiting for the sea to rise in retaliation (any day now).
Re:So they're jamming GPS.. by BitZtream · 2016-04-01 21:42 · Score: 1

Il, is that you?

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Re:No GPS by tsotha · 2016-04-02 00:03 · Score: 1

They do this periodically. It's a form of harassment, where everybody in Seoul looks at his phone, rolls his eyes, and says "That little fucker again."
Re: Slashvertisement? by inode_buddha · 2016-04-02 04:48 · Score: 1

x2 ponies.... have to admit I miss the old days

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Re:So they're jamming GPS.. by RockDoctor · 2016-04-05 06:45 · Score: 1

What if Russia was doing military "exercises" next to the American border.. often by "mistake" crossing into American territory.
Bad example, AC. Russia has it's own global positioning system (deliberate absence of proper noun capitalisation) called GLONASS, and has done since 1993 (including rebuilding after the economic collapse of the early 1990s).
In fact, increasing numbers of global positioning system chipsets will receive and decode both GPS (note, proper noun ; capitalised!) and GLONASS signals.
The European Galileo system is on the brink of "Early Operational Capability" at the moment, going to "Initial Operational Capability" in 2017-18 and "Full Operational Capability" in 2019. So soon, potential jammers will need to jam three systems.

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