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Facebook Hires Google 'Moonshot' Exec For R&D (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Facebook on Wednesday said it has hired Regina Dugan to head a search-and-product-development group considered vital to Facebook's 10-year technology road map. In the past, Dugan helped shape such Google initiatives as Project Tango, Project Ara, and smart fabrics wired with electronics. Dugan will lead Building 8, a new group "focused on building new hardware products to advance our mission of connecting the world," Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a comment posted on his Facebook profile today. Zuckerberg's 10-year vision for the company relies on major technological breakthroughs on three main fronts: artificial intelligence, augmented and virtual reality, and bringing Internet access to the 4 billion or so people who don't have it. "I'm excited to have Regina apply DARPA-style breakthrough development at the intersection of science and products to our mission," Zuckerberg said. "This method is characterized by aggressive, fixed timelines, extensive use of partnerships with universities, small and large businesses, and clear objectives for shipping products at scale."

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  1. Spoilers on road map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring in lots of H1B workers.
    Sell all the customer data.
    Buy up competitors.
    Move jobs overseas.
    Hide money overseas.
    Buy politicians.

    1. Re:Spoilers on road map by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 2

      It's insulting to compare this software wankery to the Moonshot.

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    2. Re:Spoilers on road map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The moonshot of the US was as much computers and software as anything else. Think floating point precision - the hardware developments largely came from the need to meet software demands that exceeded existing capability. They are directly connected, and just because x86 hides that doesn't change anything before.

    3. Re:Spoilers on road map by plopez · · Score: 1

      you missed the point

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  2. hype about intentions without substance by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    degeneration of media can be measured when they parrots the company press release like the intentions(merely alleged ones at that) instead of achievements. no caveats, not doubts, no questions.

  3. Disconnection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    More and more I'm becoming disconnected from Facebook. Getting old or not caring about idiotic posts sharing and ads?

  4. partnerships with universities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    translation: public subsidies and student debt to enhance Facebook's profit.

  5. Ara is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Project Ara is dead. Project Tango is nowhere, and smart fabrics is just a wank idea that's been around for years.

    She's wasn't poached I think, rather she jumped into Facebook's life raft.

    1. Re:Ara is dead by tom229 · · Score: 2

      My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't hire anyone from Google today. 5 or 10 years ago I might have, but the current staff has been on a mission to make every single product and service they have more bloated, less free, and less functional than it used to be. And they've succeeded. Maps, gmail, Android, you name it. The only exception might be the actual search engine.

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    2. Re:Ara is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of assertions, not a lot to back 'em up. How exactly, is android less functional?

    3. Re: Ara is dead by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Perplexity by complexity.

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    4. Re:Ara is dead by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Did they also poach Nelson Bighetti?
      What are the prospects for the direct neural interface prosthetic arm for simians?

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  6. Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No matter how much this gets talked up, this is as much about appeasing the SJWs as anything else. We constantly hear how there aren't enough women in these positions, and that's the real reason for this hire. Notice that the article talks about past positions held by Dugan but not her actual achievements. This is about diversity and making the SJWs happy, not about improving Facebook.

    1. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by CrankyFool · · Score: 2

      And in today's list of "things straight white men in tech never have to worry about," we have entry #285: You never have to worry that either you're being promoted or hired because of your gender/orientation/ethnicity, or that others will think that's the reason for your promotion/hiring.

    2. Re: Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know lots of guys who have no trouble getting promoted. You're likely just not management material. Your whiny blame others attitude isn't endearing to the business world.

    3. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And in today's list of "things straight white men in tech never have to worry about," we have entry #285: You never have to worry that either you're being promoted or hired because of your gender/orientation/ethnicity, or that others will think that's the reason for your promotion/hiring.

      Congratulations, you just won the stupid statement of the day award, and it's only 0400! Now, I don't need a hanky or anything, but it is absolutely true that if a white man is promoted, some of the non-white and non-male employees in the office will speculate that he got the promotion due to his whiteness and/or maleness. Hell, it may even be true, that's not the point at all; the point is, your assertion would be laughable if I weren't just sitting here, shaking my head.

      White males may suffer less from prejudice than do other people, but people absolutely are prejudiced against white males.

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    4. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Things you constantly have to put up with if you are a white male.and are not allowed to speak about

      1. Insults about your race
      2. Insults about your gender
      3.. Suggestions that you only got the promotion through white/male privilege and not the long hours of work, innovation and risks you took
      4. watching women who have done nothing worthwhile being promoted because they claim to be oppressed... despite being the most spoiled and privileged creatures to ever walk the face of the Earth.

    5. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're wrong, and GP's statement was not stupid at all. Unless it's a woman or minority dominated business, the race and gender of a white male are total non-issues when they receive a promotion. When woman or minorities are promoted, then it may be, especially in more staid (publicly traded) companies. Can they measure up? And white male has lives like a cat - a few fuckups and they need to get their act together. If a woman or minority fucks up, they're on probabion; the second time, they're gone.

    6. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by Maritz · · Score: 1

      When you're the kind of retard who unironically calls 'SJW' on everything in sight, I expect you'll see the devious hand of your opressors everywhere. They've really got the better of you... :-/

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    7. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree on the assertion that this is a EEOC hire.. I will agree that accomplishments of Regina Duggan after leaving DARPA are not exactly stellar.
      Project ARA is infeasible with the spectrum allocation used in Cellular today. especially any band below 1 GHz. You can make the product work, but the performance on internet connectivity will be poor at best.
      Regarding Project Tango, the jury is still out.. Lenovo is supposed to build a tablet prototype within the next 90 days, but the Tango API's aren't pre-baked into Android N..
      Then there's the weird stuff: pills you swallow that radiate an NFC signature to enable authentication of anything you touch. Keyless ignition systems have been doing this for years in cars, and you don't have to swallow your key fob to do it.
      She took credit for microphones that you stick on your throat, but that was invented by her predecessor, William Alberth.
      I think the Google executuve team got tired of her stuff, and she made the jump before her influence waned..

    8. Re: Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you serious? Go talk to yahoo please.

    9. Re:Hire to appease the SJWs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women and minorities don't have to worry about it either. They should stop second guessing and judging themselves based off of rumors from people who didn't get there. You got there no matter how you did it and they didn't. All you've got to do is your job in order to prove them wrong.

      You're wrong about men not getting any shit about it. Any achievement we get is because we're white males and not because we earned it. Same with women, minorities, and everyone else. Please stop trying to blame any groups and just realize humans like to prey on the emotions of others and will say whatever just to get a reaction out of you. But I guess I shouldn't expect better from a Cranky Fool.

  7. More desperation from FB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can tell they don't know what to do next.

  8. Self-replicating, self-healing cell towers by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Step 1: let a bunch of self-replicating, self-healing cell towers loose in the wilderness
    Step 2: (not needed, existing hardware works)

    1. Re:Self-replicating, self-healing cell towers by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Step 3: fight the invasion of mutant cell towers

    2. Re:Self-replicating, self-healing cell towers by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      Step 4: Lose the fight and become assimilated into FBs Borg-like Hive-mind, where being buried by an avalanche of status updates, likes and political rant posts is seen not only as patriotic, but good for business, great for the environment and(most important) helping curb microagressions worldwide.

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  9. Maybe she is a neo-nazi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because FB welcomes THEM with open arms.

  10. Was obvious from day one that she wouldn't last lo by melted · · Score: 1

    It was obvious from day one that she wouldn't last long. Google is a hyper-competitive place with _many_ of its own ambitious, type-A people fighting for opportunities. This is an extremely difficult environment for an outsider. Adult supervision in the form of the new CFO didn't help either.

  11. Execs don't matter that much by no1nose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everywhere I have worked, it is the everyday engineers, Programmers and regular hard-worker guys who develop the things that add value to a company. Execs are just there to soak up the money at the top so we don't get too cocky down below.

    1. Re:Execs don't matter that much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I went to a dairy farm once. The cows produced all the milk, the farmer sold it and kept all the money.

    2. Re:Execs don't matter that much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cowsay what?

    3. Re:Execs don't matter that much by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      IMO, the best managers or execs are the ones who do two things:

      * Set a clear direction for the company, so that everyone in the organization understands exactly where they need to go and what they need to do to get there.
      * Enable workers to do their job without them having to overly worry about money, politics, regulations, or other distractions.

      I know it's popular to hate on execs, but without good leadership and a smart strategy, a company is ultimately doomed, regardless of the quality of its work force. There have been many notable examples when a single executive has been able to turn an entire company around.

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    4. Re:Execs don't matter that much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noooo, Cowsay Boooooo. Or was that Moooo?

    5. Re:Execs don't matter that much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And far more examples where the executives sucked the company dry for their personal benefit.

  12. Stop using "moonshot" by reemul · · Score: 2

    I really wish folks would stop using "moonshot" or anything related as a metaphor for an open-ended research project leading to an unknown answer. Getting to the moon wasn't *easy* - which is why the world can still be broken down into nations that use metric, and nations that have walked on the moon - but ultimately it was a straightforward ballistics problem.

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    1. Re:Stop using "moonshot" by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didn't know that Myanmar or Liberia have walked on the moon. Very interesting.

    2. Re:Stop using "moonshot" by ThirdPrize · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I mean it's not rocket science.

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    3. Re:Stop using "moonshot" by Alomex · · Score: 1

      but ultimately it was a straightforward ballistics problem.

      So "straightforward" that is known as the 3-body problem and was, for a long time, considered one of the big open problems in Mathematics. But hey, who's counting?

    4. Re:Stop using "moonshot" by Maritz · · Score: 1

      The airforce and NASA would have been using metric. Because they're smart enough to realise it's better.

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  13. Facebook's Technology by speedplane · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg's 10-year vision for the company relies on major technological breakthroughs on three main fronts: artificial intelligence, augmented and virtual reality, and bringing Internet access to the 4 billion or so people who don't have it.

    And cat videos... lots and lots of cat videos.

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    1. Re:Facebook's Technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is guaranteed going to screw up artificial intelligence and virtual reality by spying on its users and phoning home with whatever data it can get. That's my prediction. Bringing Internet access to the unwashed masses will be similarly privacy invading. Those are my predictions.

    2. Re:Facebook's Technology by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

      They have one of the worlds experts on computer vision (Yann LeCun). They own a VR company (Oculus Rift). They hired Vladimir Vapnik (co-creator of Vapnik–Chervonenkis theory; google it). They have been doing lots of stuff in free internet (internet.org, Aries, Facebook Zero, etc.).

      There is lots of 'stuff' there for them to work with. I just doubt that they have the management or business capabilities to make their company a technology leader (as opposed to buying). I am not convinced that Dugan is the solution. The problem isn't the technology per se; the problem is managing it like a business, making it a long-term positive financial decision. Can she help with that? I don't know.

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  14. What he actually meant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "focused on building new hardware products to advance our mission of connecting the world to Facebook"

  15. Problem by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    "VP of chucking shit at the wall and hoping something sticks" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue easily, does it?

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  16. USA Today, meh by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Consider the source.

  17. No Icon for Facebook stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it too late to get Mark Zuckerberg's face assimilated into Locutus yet?

  18. Hubris by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg's 10-year vision for the company relies on major technological breakthroughs on three main fronts: artificial intelligence, augmented and virtual reality, and bringing Internet access to the 4 billion or so people who don't have it. "I'm excited to have Regina apply DARPA-style breakthrough development at the intersection of science and products to our mission," Zuckerberg said.

    At the end of the day, FB is a cat photo sharing service that scrapes user data and personal info.
    Zuckerberg trying to sound like Kennedy in 1961 is ridiculous with these DARPA and "moonshot" references.

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