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Microsoft Sending Minecraft To Summer School

Reader theodp writes: Four months after its one hour Minecraft "infomercial" ran in schools around the world as part of the Hour of Code, Microsoft announced the release of Minecraft: Education Edition. From the announcement: "Minecraft: Education Edition early access will be available in 11 languages and 41 countries. During the summer months, we are also going to be focused on working with educators on building out lesson plans, sharing learning activity ideas, and creating re-usable projects." Microsoft bought Minecraft for $2.5 billion back in 2014. "What many may not realize," said Microsoft last November as it announced a Minecraft-themed tutorial that it would inspire students to learn computer science skills, and "that Minecraft has the power to transform learning on a global scale. By creating a virtual world and then advancing in it, students can learn digital citizenship, empathy, social skills and even improve their literacy "while getting real-time feedback on their problem-solving skills from the teacher." At the time, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella told teachers that Minecraft is key to getting girls involved in computer science. So is Minecraft really all that?

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  1. First.... by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You may only play Minecraft after installing Gentoo, configuring it, using the NVIDIA proprietary drivers and configuring dual monitors, then installing Minecraft, I said. After that, the kid didn't want to play Minecraft any more, he was too interested in the software. -A (mostly) true story

    1. Re:First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or she could just use Windows and it will just work.

    2. Re:First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or she could use any other flavour of desktop Linux and it would just work as well. Gentoo has a reputation for being very much for advanced, "hands-on" users.

    3. Re:First.... by shaitand · · Score: 2

      You shouldn't be trying to discourage a kid from playing minecraft. Minecraft is a giant creative sandbox with extremely sophisticated logical circuitry.

      You'd be amazed at what people build. Everything from simple circuits to automatically open doors and exploiting the game physics to have signals degrade at a fix rate to introduce intentional calibrated delays to full blown Apple 2 recreations and oscilloscopes. There are programmable elements now introducing programming or you can do it more hardware style with redstone circuitry or some combination of the two. Instead of splitting apart the creative and those who are better at math the two are tightly integrated as you use electronics (redstone), programming, to build elements that automate, compliment, and directly enhance your creative designs.

      You might build your multi-building castle compound and build sophisticated circuitry to enable the lights to detect day/night and light the entire compound at night. You'll likely use plumbing on modern minecraft servers, even using series of tubes and control circuits so you can drop random stuff you've mined and collected in chests at various places and have it automatically sorted and stored into underground organized values for that purpose, then you'll build out chests, dispensers, and other storage objects at useful locations and have their contents auto-filled from these vaults. Even automatically filter known trash items and drop them on lava to destroy them.

    4. Re:First.... by Frank+Burly · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, though, that he had six months to mature while all this was going on.

    5. Re:First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My brother has been a huge influence on my life and one moment I'll never forget is when I was 12. I had asked to play quake on his spare computer. He said sure, then he brought the tower out into the living room, and told me to take it apart. Okay, no big deal. I hastily stripped down all the components from the tower and laid them out neatly. "Now, put it back together." Oh crap, I was not paying much attention to where everything went. Now I had to figure out the ports and where all the wires went.

      An hour later I had the tower working again. It was my on the job introduction to understanding how computers worked.

      So yeah, give the kids a virtual IDE, but also let them break stuff and fix it on their own. Delete a few .rar files, have them install conflicting mods and resolve them, hell have them make their own mods.

    6. Re: First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your brother was trolling you you fucking idiot!!!!

    7. Re:First.... by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't be trying to discourage a kid from playing minecraft. Minecraft is a giant creative sandbox with extremely sophisticated logical circuitry.
      You'd be amazed at what people build.

      Yes, you CAN build anything just like you CAN build anything on an ipad or a computer. The problem I have with minecraft and other games like it is that the potential is there but what if all they do is spend hours and hours spawning and killing monsters? Or in software like tynker or scratch, they download a mario knockoff games that other people have already built and just play those. Minecraft is similar to a computer or an ipad. The potential to create anything is there but if your kid is spending 8 hours a day playing candy crush then even though the potential to learn on an ipad is there, that doesn't mean they are actually learning. Whether it is a computer, an ipad, or minecraft, you sometimes need to either limit it or at least encourage them to use it productively. A device or virtual world where "anything is possible" also means that the possibility of doing nothing is also possible. To be used in an educational setting where you actually want a kid to learn then you're likely going to have to give some kids direction and tasks to complete if you don't want them to play games all day.

    8. Re:First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was a kid, I started off programming by playing BASIC versions of Trek. Eventually, I felt like playing with the code, and changed some easy stuff to make it more interesting or to cheat. I still had no idea what I was doing. Fast forward ten years and I saw code again (C this time), but caught on a *lot* more quickly than the other students and was always a step ahead. Part of that was probably my early exposure.

    9. Re: First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, the virtual carrot.

    10. Re:First.... by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Comes pre-installed (and working) on Raspberry Pi.

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    11. Re:First.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or install http://www.minetest.net/ instead.

  2. One thing to remember about Microsoft... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    "Are your minecraft belongs to us!"

  3. Minecraft really is all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically take all the historical hype for "Second Life is going to transform the Internet by giving us all a virtual space to explore real-world issues!" and transplant it into a game where dicks cannot rain from the sky.

    1. Re:Minecraft really is all that by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

      >> into a game where dicks cannot rain from the sky

      For what it's worth, in Minecraft "slime-powered" dicks can be built to move slowly across the sky, travelling horizontally.

  4. Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does Minecraft requires Java? Seriously? You need to install that security hole on your computer to play a game?

    1. Re:Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not any more. Minecraft ships with its own JRE.

    2. Re:Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that's still Java!

    3. Re: Java by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it was written in Java. Why else?

  5. An even better idea by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 2

    Here's an even better idea: why not start kids as early as possible on this idea of making complex objects out of simple components? For example, I could create a system of interchangeable plastic blocks that very small children could put together, either free-form, using their own imaginations, or in specially designed kits that are intended to be assembled (with instructions) into an exciting macro-toy. Even better, after they get tired of the macro toy, they could tear it down and go free-form with the pieces!

    I could envision such plastic blocks becoming popular world-wide, and could see them making their way into homes, daycare centers, preschools, and even elementary schools. Heck, I might even play with those myself. Imagine the educational possibilities for kids of all ages!

    If my idea succeeds, I wonder how many billions Microsoft would pay me for it?

    1. Re:An even better idea by dwillden · · Score: 1

      I'd bet you could even create a line of stores, Theme parks and even a movie about said blocks. That would be Awesome!

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    2. Re:An even better idea by chispito · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For example, I could create a system of interchangeable plastic blocks that very small children could put together, either free-form, using their own imaginations, or in specially designed kits that are intended to be assembled (with instructions) into an exciting macro-toy...

      Yeah but I never stepped on a Minecraft block barefoot in the middle of the night.

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    3. Re:An even better idea by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Good point - Everything is Awesome!
      I hope kids will work with the blocks in groups - Everything is cool when you're part of a team!
      But even if all our big ideas to change the world never pan out - Everything is awesome when we're living our dream!

  6. In my experience with my son... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So is Minecraft really all that?

    I was always into computers, writing programs in BASIC on my Commodore Vic20 when I was barely old enough to read/write. When my son showed little to no interest in computers, I was disappointed but supportive in endeavors he did seem to enjoy which had corollaries to my obsession w/computers such as lego, puzzles, engineering, science, etc.

    When he expressed interest in Minecraft, I was admittedly skeptical as I see most kids just playing it as a game. However, my son uses it like computer Legos, building shit over and over again and exploring the virtual world of a 6 year old.

    Starting with this, I hope he continues to learn about items which interest him through his directly manipulatable world just like I did through my own when I was his age. While like any tool may not be the best for every child to learn, it has begun to pay off and allow him to grow and develop educationally w/o him wanting to play it only as a mindless game.

    So no, it's not "all that" but it's certainly better than him watching TV or only playing games on a tablet or game system.

  7. Minecraft by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    I'm very confused about 'how' they are using Minecraft for learning to program. My kids play Miinecraft all the time and it's like using Legos, but in a virtual world. This on it's own is a creative computer game, not an educational game. A person can play Minecraft forever and not use a lick of code. Even installing modules on the client and plugins on the server I would call administration and not actual programming. So how are they teaching kids to program with minecraft? Have they designed modules in the game where there are blocks for common programming constructs? Are they having kids actually program modules or using server scripting? The way is not clear. My kids have expressed a desire to program client modules and things which I have supported but they much prefer to just play the game which is fine with me as well but it's not teaching them anything.

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    1. Re:Minecraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not privy to the details of the educational edition. But in the original minecraft, there is something called Redstone. Redstone acts like a sort of electricity(that is, it has a digital on and off state), and with it - you can create logic gates. When you combine redstone with pistons (a block that can push or pull other blocks), you can make really impressive stuff using these logic gates. I've seen elaborate doors, hidden away staircases, and elevators created using redstone. Really impressive stuff.

    2. Re:Minecraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a demo up here: https://code.org/mc

      Looks like instructions in my first programming classes, just skinned to something "Cool" instead of a generic robot.

  8. Factorio by malditaenvidia · · Score: 2

    There should be a factorio: education edition. It would certainly teach kids more about logic and processes than good ole minecraft, also it's more fun.

  9. Minecraft + open source = Minetest by jcdr · · Score: 1

    http://www.minetest.net/

    Still not as complete as the original, but giving the giant amount of Minecraft users, Minetest project is not likely to fail even is only a very small fraction of Minecraft users actually make contribution to Minetest.

  10. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "tailor-made for teaching kids things such as collaboration, navigation, social skills, and empathy"

    We should focus on basic reasoning skills. Students should be able to decompose problems into simpler sub-tasks and abstract away details when appropriate. These types of skills are valid in everyday life and a myriad of professions.

    Thinking that little Susie is going to be a software engineer because she has played Minecraft for an hour a year is silly. You'd have more luck teaching a palsy-afflicted gorilla how to pick up a turd by the clean end while wearing mittens.

    Another thing that bothers me is that MS is planning on giving $75M+ to organizations to push the use of their product onto schools. After which, they are planning to introduce a $5 per student annual fee. There's a decent amount of political push for the "Hour of Code" type programs lately. Seems like some sort of racket to me.

  11. To kill a mocking bird by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    My son's language arts teacher wanted the kids to draw a map of the town the story occurs in. They were allowed to also build it in minecraft. I thought that was a great way to build engagement for the kids between doing something that love as a way to visualize a story that when taught in english class isn't terribly fun.

    I also had great success in introducing my kids to python using the Adventures in Minecraft on a Raspberry Pi. It's a really fun introduction. They had it so when steve walked near certain flowers it would hurl him across the land. It's too bad the API for it doesn't let you do everything you might want to do. But it's a cool way to get kids really interested quickly in the raspberry pi and python. Perhaps most significantly to get them to learn to read documentations and APIs. That is to say, learning to teach yourself what you need to know to reach an objective.

    I also set up a server for them but felt that was a bust. They just used it to play but never got into the whole maintaining a Linux serve thing.

    So minecraft is great for sugar coating a lot of things and turning it into play while doing real learning skills.

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  12. Re:And I hope this shit never come back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, i'm here to inform you that minecraft porn is not only a thing, but a very popular thing for some goddamned reason.

  13. So is Minecraft really all that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My 7yr old daughter and all her friends say Yes!

  14. Help children ? by hpgmusical · · Score: 1

    If it is determined that there will be help in learning and will assist in the cognitive growth ... so let it

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  15. Creative Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a creative mode with no monsters where you have access to use every single element of the game in a creative non-hostile setting. I would recommend installing world guard and plotsquared. It will allow each student to have their own completely protected plot of land to build and express creativity. Electrical circuits are only one small aspect of a cube building-block style game. Minecraft electrical (redstone) has very specific game/world rules that severely hinder building large working circuits or moving parts. There are no real wires, you cannot run electricity where ever you want. For example you are forced to wire everything on the top face of any single cube block, and thus you must build large contraptions to complete even the most basic of a logic circuit. An unwanted caveat is that some redstone components can change behavior depending on the cardinal direction they are facing. I'd put it a notch below Lego Technics. It has merit but could be so much better, so much more.

  16. Minecraft will not interest girls in science by laughingskeptic · · Score: 1

    It has been shown that girls want to know how science applies to making the world a better place. Minecraft is not going to accomplish this and will probably even be counter productive since it has nothing to do with reality. Our teachers are so poor that they fail at making this simple connection between the material to be taught and the application to the world that motivates girls. You want to motivate a girl in materials science, you tell her how lighter stronger materials make cars safer and save thousands of lives. For biology you tell her how fundamental research leads to life saving drugs. You give real examples of real women who have done these things. This is what is needed in the classroom, not a game.

  17. Sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The promises of second life all over again.
    I'm not convinced.

  18. Orwell....? by dbreeze · · Score: 1

    "...students can learn digital citizenship, empathy, social skills and ..." I just don't think handing over our children's education to government/corporations is a great idea...

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