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Worshipping the Flying Spaghetti Monster Isn't a Real Religion, Court Rules (arstechnica.com)

WheezyJoe writes: A court in Nebraska has officially ruled that Pastafarianism is not a real religion, and therefore a prison inmate with "several tattoos proclaiming his faith" will not get $5 million or privileges to order and wear religious clothing and pendants, nor meet for weekly worship services and classes and receive communion. The Federal judge ruled that The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a "real" religion eligible for protection under the First Amendment...

In ruling against the inmate and the church of Pastafarianism, the judge wrote "there must be a line beyond which a practice is not 'religious' simply because a plaintiff labels it as such... A prisoner could just as easily read the works of Vonnegut or Heinlein and claim it as his holy book, and demand accommodation of Bokononism or the Church of All Worlds [citing Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle and Robert A. Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land]. The Flying Spaghetti Monster Gospel is plainly a work of satire, meant to entertain while making a pointed political statement," and thus not a "real" religion.

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  1. Just Wait by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Funny

    This judge will suffer the wrath of doings! He is in deep sauce now.

    1. Re: Just Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Plainly you are not a child of the Pastafari faith. The sauce is the holy liquid covering of the sacred noodles. You, and this so-called judge, for your blasphemies, shall verily be overcooked forever, and never see the great colander, remaining eternally in the salted cooking water.

    2. Re: Just Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      In the name of all that is Ravioli,

      What was he thinking?

      Just because he has a fetuccini for facts he should be allowed to approach the holy garlic oregano and tomato sauce center of worship in his own lasagne time!

      In the name of the chef the momma and the Holy customers AMEN

      TORTELLINI UNACCEPTABLE

  2. A lack of evidence is crucial for a religion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This ruling actually makes sense. An important part of a real religion is a total absence of real evidence. There is absolutely no evidence that God or Allah or Vishnu or Jupiter or Zeus or Thor actually exist, making those real religions. But spaghetti does exist. You can likely even find some at your local grocer. I know that my grocer stocks several different varieties, and I actually ate some last week. So that's evidence that spaghetti does exist, which means that any "religion" based around it cannot actually be a real religion, because there is real evidence that spaghetti exists.

    1. Re:A lack of evidence is crucial for a religion. by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is that supermarket spaghetti actually and literally Him, or does it merely represent Him? Transubstantiation is the word, I believe.

      This could lead to a schism. Wars have been fought over less.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  3. devastating :( by swell · · Score: 3, Funny

    I do not worship the FSM, but I sympathize.

    In the 60s (that would be the 1960s for you young folk), I became a minister for the Missionaries of the New Truth ($10 back when that was real money). We seemed to be a small religion though I never met other believers in person (mail order ministry). It is shocking to think that my faith could be questioned by an arbitrary group of 'authorities'. Might they then insist that I pay 45 years of back taxes? Might they make me take down the giant pink and orange middle finger fetish in my front yard? Could they disperse the devout young maidens with whom I celebrate in connubial bliss every day?

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  4. Re:A prisoner could just as easily read the works. by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Funny
    Forget about Scientology... that's not even the biggest problem with this reasoning. From the ruling:

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster Gospel is plainly a work of satire, meant to entertain while making a pointed political statement

    This "plainly" here is difficult to judge. How can we be sure any unbelievable religious text wasn't some sort of "pointed political statement" or "satire"?

    For example, I now take you back a few thousand years to the drafting of the Book of Genesis:

    HEAD RABBI: "Hey, you nimrods! It's time to get to work on that 'history' of our people. I expect to see some results when I get back. Make sure it's entertaining!" [exits]
    RABBI A: "Okay, let's get going. God created the universe over 7 billion years."
    RABBI B: "Come on. That's not very exciting. How about 7 days?!"
    RABBI A: "No way. Nobody will believe that. It's just ridiculous!"
    RABBI B: "But maybe that's what we need here. A touch of the ridiculous!"
    RABBI A: [scribbles furiously] "Okay, fine. 7 days. And God made a beautiful paradise. And God created men and women..."
    RABBI B: "Wait, wait, I got it... maybe the woman is made from the guy's RIB."
    RABBI A: "Okay, that is pretty hysterical. And now we need to explain why life sucks so much, and all these stupid rules we have about not being able to eat bacon."
    RABBI B: "Hmm... I love me some bacon. What to do? Well, we need God to look completely ridiculous from the start, with all sorts of arbitrary rules. How about we put a tree in paradise with lovely fruit, but the people aren't supposed to eat it for no apparent reason? And then they do, and God just says, 'Get the hell out of here!' "

    RABBI A: "BRILLIANT! Hey, I got an idea. Remember that big flood they still tell stories about? What if God told a special 'chosen' guy to build a giant boat and sail around in it?"
    RABBI B: "Yeah, and he packed up all the stuff in his house to save it from the flood."
    RABBI A: "Wait, wait... no we need to make this even crazier. Remember, we gotta make this silly and entertaining, or nobody will read it. How about the flood covers everything, so the guy has to save all the animals. So he packs up two of everything on his boat!"
    RABBI B: "That's insane... and hilarious. Everyone's going to crack up at the ridiculousness of that. And then when they land the boat after the flood, the guy gets all drunk and naked... and his family has to come in and cover him up."
    RABBI A: "But, but... he's all drunk and curses the guy who saw him, and thus we can justify serfdom and slavery for millennia!"
    RABBI B: "Fantastic! But what are we gonna call the people who get cursed?"
    RABBI A: "Well, they keep telling us we can't have bacon. Let's call him HAM!"

    RABBI B: "Okay, where do we go now? Well, there's that guy everybody brings up as the founder of our people -- Abram."
    RABBI A: "No, when he gets called by God, you gotta add more bacon jokes -- he's AbraHAM... get it?"
    RABBI B: "That's really hamming it up..."
    RABBI A: [groan]

    RABBI B: "Okay, let's say this Abram... er, no... AbraHAM has a guy in his family that lives in a city that needs to be cured."
    RABBI A: "Cured? Like bacon! Well you'll need some salt."
    RABBI B: "Yeah -- so the guy flees the city, and his wife turns into a giant pillar of salt!"
    RABBI A: "That's going too far. This is getting preposterous."
    RABBI B: "No, no. Hear me out. And his daughters are so stupid, that after they fle