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Intel Confirms Major Layoff: 12,000 Worldwide, 11 Percent of Workforce (ieee.org)

Tekla Perry writes: It's all about the cloud and the Internet of Things, says Intel explaining the planned layoffs, which will affect some 12,000 employees. Intel CEO Brian Krzanich promises in an email today to employees, that the "transition" will be handled with the "utmost dignity and respect." According to IEEE Spectrum, "Intel Corp. today announced that it would cut some 12,000 jobs -- that's 11 percent of its total workforce -- by mid-2017, with the majority of those affected getting the bad news within the next two months. In a press release, the company said the 'restructuring initiative' would 'accelerate its evolution from a PC company to one that powers the cloud and the billions of smart, connected computing devices,' and that the company would be increasing its investments in 'data center, IoT memory, and connectivity businesses.'"

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  1. Damn cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I never really understood what it is, but I knew it was up to no good.

    We can't say we weren't warned.

    1. Re:Damn cloud by chipschap · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, the cloud, yes. I just knew this had to have something to do with global warming.

    2. Re: Damn cloud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I blame AMD. And hip-hop.

    3. Re:Damn cloud by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So you can buy a cheaper PC and get more overall processing done.

      Unless you need that processing done locally for one reason or another, or else the prices being charged by "the cloud" were exorbitant or required subscriptions that essentially cause you to pay for unused cycles.

      I'm not yet convinced this is actually the reasoning behind this trend. I suspect PCs are "fast enough" for the majority of the market, and the minority that requires faster PCs is going to end up paying more or possibly be starved.

    4. Re:Damn cloud by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only PC's but Servers as well.

      I have a set of 5 year old IBM servers that run dual Xeon 2.9ghz processors with 4 cores each and there is ZERO reason to replace them. In fact I just picked up a pair of identical barely used units for parts for under $190 each off of ebay and replaced the SAS drives with cheap SATA SSD drives on the backup unit for testing to dramatically increase disk access speeds. (Yes my SAS raid controller happily manages SATA SSD drives)

      I could spend another $10K to replace the two or simply spend $2000 and keep them going for another 5 years just fine. the 10,000Base T network interface is faster than we will need, and the SAN works just fine.

      Intel has not made a processor worth upgrading to for over 5 years and the current gen stuff is less than 20% better than the older so there is no reason at all to even toy with upgrading. My new lenovo laptop is actually SLOWER than the old one it replaced, the 6th gen intel i7 processors are complete crap.

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    5. Re:Damn cloud by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." Thomas Watson, president of IBM 1943

      Amazon, Azure, iCloud, and a few others

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  2. "It's all about the cloud and Internet of Things" by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cloud = Their core market (desktop+server CPUs) is in a deep consolidation phase where future purchases will be made by a relatively few number of large cloud players and total unit volumes will be drastically lower.

    Internet of Things = Intel is being forced to chase razor-thin margins just to have a new market to soak up their excess semiconductor production capacity.

  3. Who needs employees when you have diversity? by PseudoCoder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    $300 Million because Diversity(TM) http://fortune.com/2015/01/12/...

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    1. Re:Who needs employees when you have diversity? by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Chief Diversity Officer is a genuine position at Intel.

      Not making even a single judgement call, but is some unanticipated overhead, right?

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  4. Re:Layoffs in the Valley... by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Four reasons

    1)Scale. Scale is hard. Its not a solved problem. It takes a lot of people to make things run at scale.

    2)You only see the tip of the iceberg. The algorithms for advertising, selecting what stories get shown, etc are 10x the size of code you see on the website.

    3)Non-engineering. Want to monetize that website? You need salesmen, marketers, and the support staff to provide software, HR services, etc for all of them.

    4)Speed. While you can't speed up small projects by adding more people, you can work on two projects at once by adding more. That's what they're trying to do. A team of one could write everything, given a few centuries. If you want it all delivered in a year, that takes people.

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  5. Re:Layoffs in the Valley... by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's because the prospect of exponential revenue growth, no matter how illusory or profitless, holds much more sway with investors than an established behemoth that prints money but whose best growth days are behind it.

  6. Times and tech are changing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Intel has to restructure. It's too bad that they couldn't move some of those employees over to the growing parts of the business. Intel's business is kind of a niche one. Where will those laid off employees go? AMD? Motorola? And that's assuming that they need people.

    And when Yahoo! starts their fire sale, there will be re-orgs there as well as layoffs and it will flood the market with even more tech people.

    There are some bad times coming to Silicon Valley.

  7. Re:Who to blame? by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ARM Holdings plc

  8. Another DotCom-type crash may be good for SV. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not that we want people to lose their jobs, but maybe what Silicon Valley really needs is another DotCom-type crash.

    I mean, what positive things have Silicon Valley as a whole really accomplished over the past 10 years?

    Well, they've managed to make advertising and the collection of personal data far more invasive and pervasive than it was before.

    They've given us "social media", which is really just another way of delivering targeted, inane advertising, and harvesting personal info.

    Anything new showing some potential, like virtual reality, is quickly being hijacked as yet another method to, you guessed it, deliver advertisements and collect personal data!

    The programming languages they've created, like Go and especially Rust, are nothing impressive. We're still using C and/or C++ for any and all real work, and will be for some time.

    Databases have taken a big step backward with all of the NoSQL hype they generated in Silicon Valley.

    Web browsers today are worse than they were a decade ago. Just look at how badly Firefox has regressed. Its UI went from being really usable to being awkward to use thanks to Australis, lots of good functionality was removed, lots of dumb functionality was added in, and its performance still causes problems for lots of people. Chrome isn't impressive either.

    The price of everything, and especially of housing and rent, has been distorted beyond belief in San Francisco and the surrounding areas, causing untold headaches for long-time residents.

    Silicon Valley has a lot of potential, but so much of it has been wasted these past 10 to 15 years. Maybe another economic reset is just what that region, and the technology industry in general, needs.

  9. Re:Layoffs in the Valley... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't worry! These layoffs will be replaced with plenty of new jobs for H1B folks!

    So I guess it will all work out for the best . . . in the end . . .

    . . . maybe . . .

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  10. Re:Layoffs in the Valley... by AlphaBro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't believe this is an earnest comparison to one of the world's biggest chip makers. Please tell me you're trolling.

  11. Re:Who to blame? by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're missing the forest for the trees. While it's true that ARM couldn't have become the success it has without contract foundries like TSMC, the core reason for ARM's success is because they've been the performance-per-watt leader for embedded solutions for a very long time, including the early days when Intel even licensed ARM's technology for their StrongARM chip.

    While ARM is a tiny company compared to Intel and likely always will be, they've had an enormous impact on Intel's inability to leverage their manufacturing and design prowess for the desktop->mobile inflection point that's been occurring for the past 7 years.

  12. Re:it's Official Inte's workforce has been ,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, the opposite: kill 10% of the soldiers to set an example for the rest.

  13. Re:Layoffs in the Valley... by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He said "growth days" and is 100% correct. Investors want exponential revenue growth even if the company loses money and will be dead in 10 years. Investors are stupid.

  14. Intel lays off 12000. Hires 2000 H1Bs per year by guruevi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only that, but they are lobbying for more H1B's while hiring ~2000/year

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  15. Re:Who to blame? by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're speaking as if the foundries provide Intel a unique competitive market position. In terms of the x86 market they certainly do (at least they used to) - the mobile market is another story. Those vertically-integrated foundries can be a capital nightmare. The arrangement works well when growth is strong but become a multi-billion dollar albatross when it doesn't. This is why nearly every company has become fabless; the contract fab model works better for all market participants, for the fabless companies because they avoid the capital investment and the fabs who get better utilization of their resources when the semiconductor product mix changes.

    As for the forest, you pointed out in your previous message how many more chips get put into a computer vs a mobile device. That's fine except for the fact that PC shipments for 2016 will probably be around 270 million, compared to a projected 1.5 billion smartphones. Add to that tablets, internet of things, microwaves, automobiles, etc.. etc.. etc..

  16. Re:it's Official Inte's workforce has been ,,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Decimation was the ancient Roman method of putting down a revolt.

    If a city-state rose up in a revolt against the regional governor or broke out in a riot or even just had persistent legal and judicial problems, and the Roman central government heard about it, they would "decimate" the population.

    They would first send a legion or two to quell the unrest.

    They would line up every man, woman, and child. Rich, poor, old, young, everyone. The soldiers would go down the line and count to ten. They would kill that person and start over at 1.

    Then the legions would leave, having killed one-in-ten residents. The latin for ten is "decem" (pronounced "day-kehm"). Hence, decimation.

    1 in 10 is equal to 10 in 100. The English word "percent" comes from the latin "per centum". "per" means "by", "through", or "from". "centum" means 100. So 10% is literally an English/Latin mashup meaning "ten from a hundred". So decimation is exactly 10%. Always.

  17. Not exactly by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's because companies like LinkedIn need very few employees relative to the amount of paying users. That's what scale really means. It means the investors can make a shitload of money without all those pesky employees ruining it for them. Investors have been living high off the massive productivity gains they've squeezed out of the work force, but they're kinda hitting the limits of that until automation kicks in. They're a little nervous about full blown automation because if they're not careful they'll end up with socialism when people notice there aren't any jobs anymore. So they're moving at a snails pace and using companies like LinkedIn to realize the profits they demand.

    Once companies like that dry up be afraid. These folks run the economy and have a boundless desire for wealth. I'm not sure what they're going to do but if you're a member of the working class instead of the ruling one it's not going to be pretty...

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  18. Not really by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not after we repealed Glass-Steagall and let the investment bankers get buddy buddy with the Mortgage bankers. See, we used to keep the risky wallstreet stuff separate from the stable Mortgage, car and Student Loan stuff. We don't do that anymore. So a Stock market crash doesn't just devalue the paper money of the 1%ers, it wrecks the whole economy. That's sorta why we separated them in the first place...

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  19. Re:it's Official Inte's workforce has been ,,,, by quax · · Score: 4, Informative

    No reason to make it more gruesome. This punishment was for deserters, it was handed down to Roman soldiers, not civilians as you imply.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...