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EMV Technology In Credit and Debit Cards Reducing Counterfeit Fraud, Says Visa (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader cites an article on USA Today: The new chip-enabled cards flowing into the U.S. marketplace have already made a dent in fraud, with some of the biggest merchants seeing a dip of more than 18% in counterfeit transactions, according to Visa. Among the 25 merchants who were suffering the most instances of counterfeit fraud at the end of 2014, five that began processing credit and debit cards equipped with the new EMV technology saw those infractions fall 18.3% as of the final quarter of 2015, says Stephanie Ericksen, vice president of risk products at Visa. Meanwhile, five of those merchants who were not yet equipped to handle chip-enabled cards saw an increase in fraudulent transactions of 11.4%. "We're seeing EMV is having a positive impact on counterfeit fraud," Ericksen says. "Merchants who implement chip, their counterfeit fraud is going down, while those still finalizing plans, their counterfeit fraud is going up."Also from the report, "Visa on Tuesday also announced a software upgrade that will shave the amount of time spent on chip card transactions. With 'Quick Chip,' consumers can dip their chip cards into the terminal and withdraw it in two seconds or less, instead of waiting until their purchase is authorized. The consumer can 'put the card in the terminal and put it right back in your wallet and . . . move to get their coffee, or hamburger or start bagging their groceries,' Ericksen says. Ars Technica has more details.

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  1. 18% less fraud.... by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Funny

    what does that translate into reduced fees for us????

    oh wait....

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    1. Re:18% less fraud.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Please share with us your list of merchants who are not passing the transaction fees on to the consumer.

      Still, some are certainly paying more because of their credit card habits.

  2. Re:Welcome to the World by Fnord666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the rest of the world has had EMV for about 10 years, often wondered why it never caught on sooner over there.

    Because none of the parties involved in the transactions were losing enough to fraudulent transactions to justify the expense of implementing EMV across the ecosystem. It took a shift in the liability mandated by Visa and MasterCard to drive any real change.

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  3. Re:That's nice by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Informative

    What utter ignorant total bullshit. Most countries all over the world have had this as standard in everything from your local coffee shop to huge retailers for the last few years. It saves time and money for retailers, making checkouts faster, the hardware is cheap and reliable.

  4. WTF is EMV? by Megane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would have been nice if TFS or TFA had explained what EMV is. I only this past month got my first chip card (I'm in the U.S.) and had never seen the acronym before.

    And yes, it is annoying to have to leave the card in there for so long, not to mention the card slots that are placed where they are hard to see. Even more annoying is that before I got the chip, I basically was never asked to sign for amounts less than $50. Now I'm sometimes being asked to sign for smaller amounts. I don't mind the industry wanting more security, but maybe they could think about the user experience side of things a bit more?

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    1. Re:WTF is EMV? by Cimexus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well unfortunately the US took the half-assed approach of moving to chip, but still requiring signature. Everywhere else it's chip + PIN. By the time you've typed the 4-6 digits of your PIN, the chip reading part of it is generally done and the whole transaction is generally quicker than the whole 'cashier hands you annoying piece of paper and a pen and you sign' rigmarole.

      Even better, most places outside the US these days have contactless payments available at most merchants. For smaller amounts ($100, $50, varies by country), tap your card on the reader and you're done. Takes literally 1 second.

  5. Re:It's just so slow! by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The old auths used to take us about 5 seconds, but now they take over 45 seconds.

    The old auths used to take us about 30-45 seconds too, but the person didn't have to stand and stare at it their with their card in the machine, so it didn't feel like you were waiting 30 seconds.

    It gave me a chance to put my card back in my wallet and my wallet back in my pocket before the cashier could try and shove the receipt into my occupied hands.

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  6. Inertia by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The country where something is developed first is saddled with a large installed base of the older tech. Countries which hop on the bandwagon later benefit from the experience of that trailblazer, and get the better tech right off the bat. Other examples include:
    • African countries lead the world in ratio of cellular vs landline phones - they just skipped landlines almost entirely.
    • Digital cell phones came to the U.S. last because the U.S. was first with analog cell phones - not only did U.S. companies have to build a digital cellular network, they had to transition all their analog customers to digital and dismantle the old analog network.
    • Japan initially led the world in HDTV technology. The government pumped billions of dollars into R&D to insure the HDTV standard would be the Japanese standard. But their tech was based on analog broadcasts. In the mid-1990s, computer technology became advanced enough to allow real-time digital decompression of a HD-resolution video signal, and the U.S. leapfrogged Japan and set all the digital HDTV standards we use today.
  7. Re:I'm more impressed by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really care that much about the theoretical security. I avoid this technology because it shifts liability onto me, that with swiping the card the old way rests with the bank.

    I don't want to take on a smaller liability to save the bank from the larger old one. It isn't like the savings pass through to me.

  8. Re:I'm more impressed by s.petry · · Score: 4, Informative

    IMHO this is why we see articles like TFA which intentionally omit the largest section of fraud. Sure, retailers see some credit card fraud but the majority of fraud is wire based fraud, not card in hand at merchants. Smart chips do nothing to prevent wire fraud.

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  9. Heh, if only it worked by infinite9 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a US citizen living outside the US. Let me tell you that these chip cards are a nightmare for us. They work about 50% of the time, with no rhyme or reason as to when they'll work or why. Trying the card a second time sometimes works. Sometimes the machines ask for PIN codes when there isn't one, other times not. When this happens, I can enter any random number and the transaction goes through. A card will work at a particular gas station one day, then not the next, then works again the following day. The cards will usually work in one store, or almost never work in another store.

    Locals with the new machines have no idea what they're doing. Sometimes they swipe cards with no magnetic stripe. Sometimes they pull the card out before the transaction is done. Sometimes they argue with me telling me it's a debit card when it's a credit card.

    And in all cases, whenever the card doesn't work at a purchase, the error message is "declined".

    My chip Visa ATM cards work in almost no machines here, while the magnetic stripe cards did. Some give the wrong menu options on ATM machines, allowing "savings account" as the only option when I have only a checking account. Others work or don't at random. The error message is useless. Or sometimes I get different error messages depending on whether I select english or spanish at the ATM. In general, I have about a 1 in 5 chance of extracting some amount of money from a machine. When I call the customer support number on the back of the card, they swear up and down the card works just fine.

    I'm slowly removing myself from a reliance on banks and even money in general. These idiotic chip cards are only encouraging me to hasten my exit.

    I'm convinced this is about 10% pilot error at the point of sale, and 90% a technical problem on the bank servers in the US. The development was probably outsourced to the lowest bidding indian consulting firm.

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    1. Re:Heh, if only it worked by Cimexus · · Score: 4, Informative

      I would suggest getting a chip card from a local bank wherever you are. The technology works great in most places I've been (Canada, Europe and yes even the US), but then, my home bank is in Australia where chip + PIN has been established standard for well over 10 years. The US cards are kinda 'frankenstein' because they have the chip but generally no PIN (i.e. the US went with the weird hybrid approach of having a chip but still requiring signature).

  10. Re:I'm more impressed by Mousit · · Score: 3, Informative

    But that is also a difference that US and Canadian ATM's have as well. US ATM's generally make you swipe the card and then put it back in your wallet, while you complete the transaction. Canadian ATM's hold onto the card until you tell the ATM that you're done.

    Curious. Now, I admit I never use third-party ATMs so maybe those are different, but among first-party bank ATMs, I haven't encountered a swipe one in a good 25 years. Ever since the early 90s, and having been a customer of several different U.S. banks, all I've encountered are insert-and-hold-card ATMs.

  11. Re:I'm more impressed by radarskiy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "because you can't tip Chip & Pin unless they bring the mobile POS to the table and you enter the tip directly in it."

    Bringing the POS to you is the point. It works perfectly fine for damned dirty communists in Europe.

  12. Re:I'm more impressed by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really care that much about the theoretical security. I avoid this technology because it shifts liability onto me, that with swiping the card the old way rests with the bank.

    I don't want to take on a smaller liability to save the bank from the larger old one. It isn't like the savings pass through to me.

    Then fix your shitty government.

    In Australia and Europe, the liability still rests with the bank. In fact merchants have gotten rid of swiping only terminals because it's the other way around (and should be) that the merchant can be liable for not having the updated terminals where as with Chip and Pin, the bank is liable.

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