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FBI Paid More Than $1 Million For San Bernardino 'Hack' (cbsnews.com)

An anonymous reader writes: FBI Director James Comey has indicated the bureau paid more than $1 million for the method used to hack into the iPhone 5c belonging to one of the San Bernadino shooters. How did he allude to it? He said the FBI paid more money than he would make in the time left as FBI director. He makes just under $200,000 a year based on public files and has over seven years left on his term. "How much did you pay for this software?" Comey was asked. "A lot," he said. "More -- let's see. More than I will make in the remainder of this job, which is seven years and four months, for sure," Comey said. "And so it's a -- but it was in my view, worth it, because it's a tool that helps us with a 5c running iOS 9, which is a bit of a corner case, increasingly as the devices develop and move on to the 6 and 6s and whatnot and iOS's change, but I think it's very, very important that we get into that device." Comey said.

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  1. Guess We'll Never Know... by sycodon · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...what they found on the phone.

    My guess....porn.

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    1. Re:Guess We'll Never Know... by JackieBrown · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The government is just pissed Apple beat them in the war of public opinion and that they said no to the government.

      That is why we keep hearing them say now that Apple devices are not secure and trying to hurt Apple in a new war of public opinion.

      I wish there would be a push back against the government's use of Apple phones and make public officials give them up since they are apparently so "insecure."

    2. Re:Guess We'll Never Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nothing of importance. We know they already were given a copy of the information on the phone from Apple (most recent backup), of which they found nothing. The FBI then themselves said they don't believe they would find anything important, but decided to push through with it anyways. Now they've gotten in, and haven't announced they found anything interesting, so guess what that means?

    3. Re:Guess We'll Never Know... by Hussman32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Funny, but it's even worse...they confirmed that they did not contact other people during the 18 minute window that they were trying to close, and they called it useful information.

      They knew that the shooters went out of their way to destroy every single electric device they owned, yet they demanded to know that the phone was not used for unlawful purposes. And they paid someone a fortune who probably looked up how to do it on /.

      That's not a good use of taxpayer money to make a point.

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  2. How many hackers? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assuming these guys are really, really good, and worth a billable rate of $250/hr - if they pulled off the job in under 90 days, were there 10+ of them on the job, or did the FBI just pay a super premium for a high profile case to make a political statement?

    1. Re:How many hackers? by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the government. When you're used to $500 hammers, a $1 million phone hack hardly matters. Part of the cost could simply be that whatever was done would make it obvious how the hack works so it's really only a one-time sale for the person doing the hacking.

      But considering that the hacked device yielded no useful information, I think the only statement that the FBI has made is that they're fucking idiots.

    2. Re:How many hackers? by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Assuming these guys are really, really good, and worth a billable rate of $250/hr - if they pulled off the job in under 90 days, were there 10+ of them on the job, or did the FBI just pay a super premium for a high profile case to make a political statement?

      Or they paid the going rate.

      iOS vulnerabilities and zero-days really are that expensive, because there's so few of them. I mean, there was one last year - 3 prizes of $1M each to break iOS, and only one of the three available was claimed.

      It's why Apple doesn't bother with bug bounties - if people are willing to pay $1M for it, even a $100,000 bug bounty is too little.

      It's not that iOS is bug-free, far from it. It's really because Apple has hardened the entry points that results in breaking in requiring an elaborate set of steps and timing to get in. And the perceived value of the data.

      The FBI didn't overpay, they just paid the going rate.

  3. Yeah, right. by Bob_Who · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So they pick up the yellow pages and call "Hackers R Us" and hire a million dollar zero day exploit for an Apple 5c so they can find any information not already captured in the telco's network traffic. What a load of crap. Nothing about this story, the preposterous claim of the value of `anything on an iphone that is not already a matter of record in telecommunication logs sounds like complete baloney. I don't believe a word of what these liars are saying. Not a word of it. If they really believe there is anything of value on a cell phone that does not involve actual network transmission then I would like to know what that is. Lets be clear here - if its on an encrypted iPhone, and it never involved a network connection or transmission, then why does it even matter? If they really think there is anything more of real value then perhaps they should pursue all of the known connections. Or how about, don't shoot ten thousand bullets into the suspects after you have them completely surrounded by armies of law enforcement. Perhaps if these gun slinging assholes stopped to think about the value of a living terrorist over a dead one we wouldn't be wasting tax payer dollars on their bad learning curve on common sense.

  4. Lies by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nearly everything the FBI says so far is a lie. Why should I believe this statement?

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  5. Like the FBI cares... by s.petry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's OUR money they paid, not THEIR money. The FBI gets it's money from tax payers, and exists because of tax payers.

    This is the same issue with all of Government really. The Government is always better off when they are not accountable for spending. I just wonder if they will use this as ammo to convince tax payers that we need a bigger GAO to investigate this incident and others just like it.

    Before you say it, Anarchy is not the only or even best alternative. There is a whole lot of space between anarchy and our current overly bloated Government.

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  6. Re:Why does the FBI director have such a long term by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Standard process: Appointed by president, confirmed by senate. The term is ten years, but in practice almost every single director has left before their term is up. I'm surprised the appointment is not more politically contested, given that the director is in a position to influence what crimes the FBI focuses on and thus to advance either party agenda easily.