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Greece's Former Finance Minister Explains Why A Universal Basic Income Could Save Us (fastcoexist.com)

Charlie Sorrel, writing for FastCoExist: Next time you're having a fight with somebody who doesn't like the idea of a universal basic income, you might employ some of these arguments from Yanis Varoufakis, Greece's former finance minister. In an interview with the Swiss newspaper Tages Anzeiger, he not only refutes the usual arguments against the concept that the government should give everyone a minimum check every month, but he makes them sound quite ridiculous. The interview was published ahead of the Switzerland's vote on a universal basic income (or UBI) in June. If successful, all Swiss adults would get $2,500 per month, and kids around $625 per month, whether or not they have a job. Here are some of Varoufakis's best answers.

First, on the need for a UBI: "For the first time in the history of technology more jobs are destroyed than created. Technical progress means that more and more high-paying jobs will disappear and thus shrink the middle class. This will in turn cause a further concentration of income and wealth in the upper classes. That's why I fight like a basic income for sociopolitical reforms. The robotization [of work] has long been underway, but robots don't buy products. Therefore, a basic income is needed to offset this change and stabilize a society which has an increasing wealth inequality." Then, on why you need a UBI if you already have a good job: "What good is a well-paying job, if you are afraid to lose it? This constant fear paralyzes."
Good luck convincing many citizens to do actual work.

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  1. Re:$2500 a month? by bsolar · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Please, do realise that $2500 a month is not actually part of the law being voted: this is the *complete* text of what would get effective if the vote is successful:

    The Constitution has been modified as follows:

    Art. 110a (new) Unconditional basic income

    The Confederation shall ensure the introduction of an unconditional basic income.

    The basic income shall enable the whole population to live in human dignity and participate in public life.

    The law shall particularly regulate the way in which the basic income is to be financed and the level at which it is set.

    The 2500$ comes from the actual *poverty line* in Switzerland: believe me if you have such a low income in Switzerland you are not going to be happy, even if you do nothing to get it.

  2. Re: So is he wrong? by gweihir · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So if society collapses because the base-mechanisms of capitalism fail, that is fine with you? Talk about being self-centered _and_ stupid...

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  3. It will get corrupted somehow by kheldan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't really care about anybodys arguments for this UBI concept, I know one thing for sure: Somehow, it'll get corrupted, so that I get screwed out of it, have to work, my taxes jacked up, and I'll be paying for some jackoffs to smoke weed, drink beer, and play video games all day long, while I get my pay cut, and as mentioned above, my taxes increased to pay for losers to play all day. I just KNOW it will happen that way.

    You want the government to give us free shit? How about we do away with the requirement for healthcare (or paying Danegeld to the IRS if you don't) and give us basic healthcare for FREE instead!? That would make WAY MORE sense than this UBI crap. I'm dead serious about this: If the U.S. Government can't manage to give every U.S. citizen free basic healthcare, then it sure as fuck can't afford to give everyone enough cash to live on every month. Call it a test case. I challenge the Government and everyone who supports this UBI nonsense to make free healthcare for everyone work, first; if that works for, say, a decade, THEN we can talk about your UBI. Deal?

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  4. Re:not everyone is lazy by Ogive17 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I won millions playing the lottery (unlikely because I buy maybe 1 or 2 tickets a year), I would still work. When I'm home for 10 days during our annual shut down, I get bored quickly. I doubt I would stay at my current job, even though it is pretty good. Most likely I'd try my hand at owning a small business... put that MBA to use.

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  5. Economist in Support by Lynal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm an economist; I recently finished my PhD and am now working in the tech industry.

    I am hugely in favor of UBI. I think of it in 3 ways:

    Is it doable?
    Yes, of course. Existing social programs are very costly, and this will replace many of them. Furthermore, there are a lot of profits that have been created by technology in the last 50 years. And yet work weeks have increased, and many people have a lower quality of life than before. You might ask why this is. I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't population growth.

    What is the cost?
    Social disruption in the short term. Probably a cost to some or many very wealthy individuals. New regulations are required, but these may be less in total than existing regulations.

    What is the benefit?
    Many. Increased social stability. A simpler social safety net for one. A promise that each individual will be better off as technology improves and jobs may be destroyed.

    That last piece I believe to be very important. The looming driverless car revolution has highlighted the risk of technology: jobs lost there have no promise of replacements.

  6. Re:Greece?! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think people do need to work for an income

    Why?

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