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40% of Silicon Valley's Profits (But Not Sales) Came from Apple (siliconvalley.com)

An anonymous reader writes:The San Jose Mercury News reports that last year 40% of Silicon Valley's profits came from one company -- Apple. "The iPhone maker accounted for 28 percent of the Bay Area tech industry's $833 billion in 2015 sales," while "Its profits were a jaw-dropping 40 percent of the region's $133 billion total." Meanwhile, Google's parent company Alphabet racked up $75 billion in sales, representing nearly 57% of the total for all Silicon Valley internet companies, followed by eBay and PayPal.

But while sales grew, internet-company profits fell by 29% as more companies focused on growth. "Profits are nice, sure, but becoming profitable isn't the top priority around here, particularly for younger firms," wrote the newspaper, noting that investors are paying 18 times Facebook's annual sales for its stock. In fact, 29% of Silicon Valley's top companies didn't have sales growth in 2015 (an increase from 17% the previous year), and five of the top 10 companies saw a drop in sales in 2015 (including Intel). "The numbers are telling the story," one analyst tells the newspaper. "There is growth, but it is slowing."

The Mercury News adds that "The question for those with the biggest sales drops is how much time do they have left if the trend continues..."

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  1. Re:We are overtaxed by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

    People thrive when government does little, as Thomas Jefferson and George Washington told us.

    If they did, they were idiots.

    When government handles roads and military defense, society thrives; when government bleeds people by taxation and regulation

    How the hell do you imagine the government handles roads and military defence other than by taxation and regulation?

  2. Re:50% from tax dodges TANSTAAFL by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Should I want to hire someone at a PO box in some lax country to assign my income around - it'd be legal for me too.

    Actually, Apple's PO box is in Nevada to avoid paying corporate taxes in California and 20 states.

    Yet, with a handful of employees in a small office here in Reno, Apple has done something central to its corporate strategy: it has avoided millions of dollars in taxes in California and 20 other states. Apple's headquarters are in Cupertino, Calif. By putting an office in Reno, just 200 miles away, to collect and invest the company's profits, Apple sidesteps state income taxes on some of those gains. California's corporate tax rate is 8.84 percent. Nevada's? Zero.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html

  3. Re:Let's call taxation as contribution by Xabraxas · · Score: 4, Informative

    No offense but I don't think you know how taxation works. You can't just say well i'm in the 33% tax bracket federally and 10% locally so add those together and that's 43%. Throw in some Medicare and Social Security and that should be about 50% right? Wrong. First you're not paying an effective tax rate of 33% or 10% either because tax rates are only effective on income over the threshold. So say you make $189,301, the minimum amount for the 33% tax bracket, you will pay an effective rate of something like 22%. Just quickly looking at a tax calculator online it looks like California would be a little less than 8% effective rate. So that puts you at 30% without Medicare and Social Security. From the calculator that is about another 5%. So without ANY deductions for anything your effective rate would be about 35%. Considering the wealth of deductions available and your salary it shouldn't be hard to find an accountant that can probably get you under 30% or lower.

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  4. Re:This is why America needs President Trump. by Xabraxas · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tell me which of Trump's proposal's are good and we can debate that. I have no faith someone can have a coherent proposal about something they know nothing about and it has been demonstrated time and again in interviews that he doesn't know anything about the economy, foreign policy, or even math for that matter. Just look at his claim that he will ELIMINATE the debt in 8 years. Laughable. The guy is a fucking joke.

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  5. Re:It's even more pronounced in smartphones ... by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

    1) Why does that chart show Apple at 92% and Samsung at 14% of all global smartphone profits?

    2) It contradicts the common belief that Apple hardware is better. The 4Q 2014 sales figures pegged Apple's smartphone profit at $18.8 billion, while iPhone sales were 74.5 million. $18.8b / 74.5m = a staggering $252 profit per phone. For anyone who denies an Apple tax exists, there it is right there.

    In other words, your $650 iPhone isn't a $650 phone. It's a $400 phone that Apple is selling to you for $650. Meanwhile the other smartphone manufacturers operate with a 2%-5% margin (typical for the computer industry). So when they sell you a $650 smartphone, you're getting $625 worth of hardware. You could argue Apple designs their stuff better so is able to get the same performance out of less money. But the only part they design is the SoC. They buy all the other parts - screen, battery, camera, memory, etc. - from the same suppliers as everyone else.

  6. Re:It's even more pronounced in smartphones ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because the other vendors are losing money and thus have negative percentages of the profit share. Adding up all the lossmakers gives -6%; Apple + Samsung together are at 106%.