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U.S. Goverment Shames Texting Drivers on Twitter (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: "The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is the federal body tasked with automotive safety," reports the Verge, adding "If you look at NHTSA's Twitter feed right now, you'll find that it's just a non-stop stream of burns aimed at people who admit -- sometimes gleefully -- that they text and drive."

For example, seeing a tweet that read, "I have no problem texting while driving, but I won't text while going down stairs, the NHTSA replied "You might not have a problem with the texting & driving...but we do. Stay off your phone and #justdrive - it's not worth it." And seeing a tweet that read "I text and drive way too much," they responded, "Um, agreed... Please realize you're putting yourself and others in danger, and a silly text isn't worth it. #justdrive".

The Verge argues "For what it's worth, NHTSA is right: countless studies have linked texting in the driver's seat with higher accident rates... Getting shamed online by a government agency is far harsher than getting shamed by a friend -- but it's still a lot better than getting killed over an email." To which the NHTSA responded on Twitter, "Thanks for the shoutout, .@verge! #justdrive"

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  1. Re:Harsh laws... by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make it at least as bad as DUI, or better yet... First time felony.

    Both should be automatic felonies, with extended loss of license. We treat both as minor offenses in the US which is itself criminal.

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  2. Re:Meh by sabbede · · Score: 4, Insightful
    No, you really really can't. You just don't know it because you can't see what you're doing. Ask a person driving behind you how well you're driving. The answer will apparently shock you.

    I see it all too often. The car driving under the speed limit slowly drifting out of its lane is driven by someone chatting on their phone. The one below the speed limit weaving all over the place is a texter. Or very drunk. The person on their phone driving safely and consistently, well, they don't exist.

  3. Re:Harsh laws... by houghi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Legalize Mary Jane and put the people who text in prison. No loss for the companies who operate the prisons.

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  4. Re:Meh by sabbede · · Score: 2, Insightful
    No, you really can't. You just don't know it because you can't see what you're doing. Ask the person behind you how you're doing. The answer will, apparently, surprise you.

    The person driving below the speed limit and slowly drifting out of their lane is chatting on their phone. The one driving below the speed limit and weaving all over the place is texting. Or very drunk.

    It's not physically possible to drive safely while texting. Too much time with your eyes off the road, too much attention on the phone. The instant you start manipulating your phone, you change direction. It's physiological - you start to turn in the direction of your focus. It can't be avoided or safely corrected for.

  5. Re:Harsh laws... by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You should work on your understanding of this issue. Texting while driving is dangerous like drinking while driving. If you can't drive responsibly, you shouldn't be allowed to put other peoples' lives at risk. This is not too difficult to understand. Do you perchance happen to text while driving, and are getting all defensive?

  6. Re:Harsh laws... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a cyclist, not looking where you are going in a 2 tonne metal box is the same as shooting a gun randomly. You may not have hit anyone yet, but on a long enough timeline you or someone else will.

  7. As a motorcyclist.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish they would pull over texting drivers and then punch them in the face.

    there is NO REASON.... to text while driving. NONE... and if you do it you deserve a punch in the face for risking others with your selfish behavior.

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  8. Re:Harsh laws... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple, really. UK learned through public education from sane groups of people that don't hate alcohol, they'd just rather you consume it without driving a car.

    The US (and to a lesser extent, Canada) attempted to teach it through harsh sentencing, surveillance nets, and public education from temperance groups (and later, groups that don't advertise themselves as pro-temperance, but act so much like it the president quit for that reason alone).

    Extremely harsh sentencing doesn't work for the death penalty, and it won't work for drunk driving. Surveillance doesn't seem to work either, though I think it's a byproduct of the next thing: Temperance groups telling you to drink less are laughed at.

    The UK has reasonable drunk driving laws. There's attempts by the temperance groups to bring our laws down to "Not even one", or 0.03%. When you teach from such an outlandish position, your attempt at education has the baby thrown out with the bathwater.

  9. Re:Harsh laws... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, you don't. You just don't realize how bad you're driving. Same goes with weed. I live in CO, and have met many people who claim they drive better while baked. Having witnessed them driving while baked, they really don't. Driving 20 MPH in a 50 MPH zone is actually quite dangerous contrary to what they seem to think.

  10. Re:Harsh laws... by Shados · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In addition to this, the US' culture is very much "It's only illegal if you get caught and the cops will do something about it". About -everything-.

    If you tell someone they really shouldn't do something because it's dangerous/irresponsible, they'll blankly stare at you and go: "But...how will they ever catch me? I don't understand". No matter their age or what you're talking about. There's no critical thinking. It's just about scoring by sticking it to the man.

    I mean, everywhere has a little of that, it's just human nature, but when I moved to the US, I was really amazed by how far they push it.

  11. Re:Harsh laws... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The practice of setting unrealistically low speed limits and being permissive with violators promotes a culture of scofflaws. Who knew?

  12. Re:Harsh laws... by AchilleTalon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why doing half the job? Ban drivers and implement self-driving autonomous vehicles.

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  13. Re:Harsh laws... by Whatsmynickname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And as a cyclist AND a motorcyclist, you are deluding yourself to think you have total 100% control over all situations. If someone flies around a corner from behind and hits you from behind, there are times where there is absolutely nothing you can do to influence the outcome. In my case, had a broken rib and collapsed lung. I did everything I was supposed to in order to protect myself and still nearly got killed.

    I'm tired of this it's all our own personal responsibility fault bullshit. Personal responsibility and attention is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for me not getting killed on the road when I'm on two wheels. At the end of the day our safety is dependent upon others acting responsibly as well. We need everyone's cooperation and not text/drive, else it will just be chaos out there.

  14. Re:Harsh laws... by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to mention I don't see how texting and driving is more of a distraction than having some screaming toddler in the back.

    You don't have to see. The facts are completely independent of your willingness to educate yourself.

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  15. For all the demands for more enforcement .... by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish more people would at least stop and think first.

    In more and more cities, I'm seeing situations where a person is given a citation for "texting while driving" even though their vehicle is stopped at a red traffic light. These are often the folks who were trying to COMPLY with the law by not touching their phone until they knew they reached a red light, where it was finally safe to take a quick look at what was sent to them.

    For example, in the DC metro area, we recently had a cop dressed up like a homeless person on the side of the road begging (except the sign he was holding explained that he was a law enforcement officer). He was handing out "texting while driving" tickets to people at the intersection, at the red light!

    When I pointed this out to a girl I know who was ranting about the "need to lock people up and throw away the key" for texting while driving, she just shot back, "Good! The people using their phone while sitting in the car ANYPLACE should be punished! Anything to make us safer!" That's the mentality in America that always scares me.

  16. Re:Harsh laws... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And as a cyclist AND a motorcyclist, you are deluding yourself to think you have total 100% control over all situations. If someone flies around a corner from behind and hits you from behind, there are times where there is absolutely nothing you can do to influence the outcome.

    Car driver here, but I completely agree. A few years ago, I was driving my wife, mother-in-law, and then-toddler son in our mini-van to a local computer store. As we passed through an intersection (which was green for us), I spotted a car turning from the other direction that was going to hit us. It was one of those "time slowing down" moments - I could see that the impact was going to happen, but had no options for preventing it. The guy hit us, our mini-van went careening across four lanes of (thankfully light) traffic on two wheels. We wound up facing the other way on the other side of the road. Somehow, we didn't hit into anyone else, flip over, or suffer any major injuries.

    Nothing I could have done would have prevented this accident. The guy was turning illegally (he was in the wrong lane and had a red light for turning at the time) and simply didn't pay attention to where he was or who was coming in the other lane. I couldn't have avoided him and his careless actions could have resulted in me or my family suffering serious injuries or worse. When someone texts and drives, they are distracted from the road. Some people think "oh, it's only a second", but all it takes is one or two seconds of not looking at the road to cause a major accident. If a text is that important, find somewhere to stop and answer it. If it's not important enough to stop over, then it can wait until later.

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  17. Re:Good. Texting drivers kill people. by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In fairness cops generally aren't indicted when they kill someone no matter the manner in which they do it.

  18. Re:Harsh laws... by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your freedom to make decisions on your own ends when those decisions endanger innocent people around you who didn't consent to be hit by your car.

  19. Re:Harsh laws... by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You certainly can contrive situations where that happens. They are relatively few and far between though. Most people who've told me that they just cannot live without their car in the UK have made a combination of certain choices, living far away from their employer because they have a car, and exaggeration of the circumstances they're currently in.

    I've lived all over Britain, Oxford, Reading, Aylesbury (urgh), Norwich, Leeds, and Milford Haven (double urgh) to name a few. Only the latter I'd argue came close to US styles of mandatory driving. And even there driving was not mandatory. I didn't drive, I used a bicycle and the public transport that existed.

    Coming to the US was an utter shock as a result. In most parts of the US, even a bicycle isn't going to get you very far. There are no urban centers, buildings are deliberately spaced far apart (imagine walking 1,000 feet and passing 5 stores. That's typical. The space in between? "Free" parking.)

    In the US, not owning a car outside of a small number of decent cities means you're no longer able to support yourself. By all means tell me that your current job and current home means a car is more optimal, but tell me seriously that if you didn't have a car, you wouldn't be able to have a job capable of supporting yourself. That's not true for anyone in Britain. That's true for 90% of Americans.

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