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Goldman Sachs Launches GS Bank, An Internet Bank With A $1 Minimum Deposit (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader recaps a report from TechCrunch: Traditionally, Goldman Sachs has functioned like a run-of-the-mill investment bank with minimums to open an account in the range of $10 million, and returns not guaranteed. Goldman is opening its doors to the masses today with the launch of GS Bank, an FDIC-insured, internet-based savings bank. Anyone with an internet connection and a dollar can join, as that is what each account's minimum balance must be. GS Bank's interest rates give customers an annual yield of 1.05 percent, a rate that trumps the average U.S. saving's bank yield of .06 percent APY. GS Bank was a result of Goldman's acquisition of GE Capital Bank, the online retail bank previously run by General Electric's capital arm. The move is to diversify revenue streams and strengthen liquidity. GS Bank currently has total deposits of around $114 billion. In other news from the multinational banking firm, Goldman Sachs believes virtual-reality and augmented-reality "will be the next generation computing platform" worth $80 billion by 2025.

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  1. Ooooh~~ by Edis+Krad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Goldman Sachs!
    Synonym with trustworthiness and financial stability. Just exactly where I want to put all my money in!

    1. Re:Ooooh~~ by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Goldman Sachs! Synonym with trustworthiness and financial stability.

      GS had enough sense to short the sub-prime mortgage market when everyone else was digging in deeper. So they aren't dumb.

    2. Re:Ooooh~~ by Desler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course they shorted it because they set up the whole thing to fail in the first place.

    3. Re:Ooooh~~ by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You think GS is bad. Here is my experience with a Delaware-based escrow company.

      Before I start, the main function of an Escrow company is to hold the money and pay it out to the correct people and only at the appropriate time.

      1. Money is in escrow. Intended to be held for some time with some conditions on release.
      2. One of the conditions on release of money puts payment in jeopardy.
      3. Escrow company sends one of the parties their share BEFORE the money should be sent to anyone and before the issue from step 2 is resolved.
      4. Escrow company sues the recipient (who is in India with no US connections) in US courts. Obtains a meaningless default judgement.
      5. Escrow company deducts the cost of obtaining the meaningless judgement from the amount to be shared amongst the rest of the escrow participants.
      6. One of the participants successfully sues the escrow company to force it to eat the legal bill (and any excess money sent in error in step 3.) itself.
      7. Escrow company adds its legal costs defending 6. to the amount deducted from the other participants (except for the one who sued).
      8. Other participants sue the escrow company to get it to eat all its legal costs and any excess sent in error to the one participant in step 3. Suit is successful and eventually, the Escrow company has to agree to not deduct any legal costs and make up any excess money sent in step 3.

      In summary, escrow company screwed up, tried to pass the costs onto the very people it should have protected and had to be sued twice to get it to eat the costs of its own mistakes.

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    4. Re:Ooooh~~ by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why did they need the bailout then?

      GS did not need a bailout. Their customers/victims did. They received some TARP money, but they certainly didn't need it.

  2. I got a bad feeling about this... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I moved my money out before the account got transferred from GE Capital to Goldman Sachs. I'm not sure if I will return the money to this account. I don't like my savings being used by the same corporation that was responsible for the Great Recession.

    1. Re:I got a bad feeling about this... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      ... the same corporation that was responsible for the Great Recession.

      GS did not cause the Great Recession. If more banks had done what GS had done, the recession would have happened sooner, and been more mild. Blaming short sellers for crashes is like blaming storms on the weathervane.

  3. Re:So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Informative

    My credit union has a higher interest rate than the 1.05% currently being offered by GS Bank.

  4. Re:*anyone* or just US residents? by Sarlok · · Score: 2

    Here's the IRS page on the issue. Basically you won't owe any US tax on interest income as long as you don't work in the US or have other business interests in the US. However, since 2013 all US banks are required to report accounts of foreign nationals to the IRS if their country has an information sharing agreement with the US. This is not really for the IRS to tax you, but rather for the IRS to report your income to your home country so you can't hide US income from your country. See this page for more details and a list of applicable countries.

  5. Fuck Goldman right in the Sachs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money."
                    ---Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

    Yeah, these are the "masters of the universe" that tanked our economy, was bailed out for 10s of billions of dollars after their CEO became the treasury secretary, then outsourced 1,000 American jobs and gave their execs huge raises and paid "up to" a paltry $5 billion for defrauding their own customers.

    No high level execs at Goldman Sachs went to jail,and the systemic problem is worse today than before the crisis.

    Why would I give even even a penny to admitted criminals with a proven record of abusing their customers and being grossly selfish and irresponsible?!

    Fuck those guys. Seriously.

    1. Re:Fuck Goldman right in the Sachs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You certainly don't have to do business with them. But if you have evidence of specific crimes that nobody else has managed to identify, you might want to pass those along to the DoJ.

      There's no need to inform the DoJ. Goldman says that it did commit the crimes it was accused of. This statement is part of the settlement and rather unusual as most of the banks were allowed to settle with a "neither agree nor disagree" kind of statement.

      This note from the Justice department has some details of specific crimes.
      https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...

    2. Re:Fuck Goldman right in the Sachs by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No idea on which people there specifically belong in jail. But do you really think GS would pay 5.1 billion in compensation for fraud in a settlement with the DOJ if it was innocent? It was a disgrace that they were able to pay their way out of criminal charges.

    3. Re:Fuck Goldman right in the Sachs by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which GS people committed which crimes for which they should be in prison? Please be specific.

      Lloyd Blankfein, CEO. See the presentence investigative report on him and Goldman from 2010.

      He traded against his clients, which is a crime. Then he lied to the FBI and Congress about doing so. That's conflict of interest, fraud and perjury.

      Now it's up to you to explain why he should NOT have gone to jail for these crimes other than the fact that Goldman controls the Fed. Please be specific.

      http://www.rollingstone.com/po...

      http://www.reuters.com/article...

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  6. Re:Cool! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Not tonight, sweetie. I gotta headache...

    Just read the Levin report... It's only 650 pages.

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  7. Re: So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Maybe he has a time machine and traveled back to 1980.

    When the banks were terribly boring, savings account paid 5.00% interest (give or take), and the wolves of Wall Street were kept far, far away from Main Street.

  8. Re:So... by stephanruby · · Score: 2

    Yes, but your credit union won't pay Slashdot to have their ad featured as a news story. So tough for them.

  9. Didn't look good in "The Big Short" by swb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Goldman didn't look good in the movie the Big Short.

    MIchael Burry, the fund manager who "discovered" how bad mortgage backed bonds were due to poor lending practices, bought hedges against these bonds from Goldman to the tune of at least a hundred million dollars. They thought he was an idiot and sold them willingly.

    Yet when the default rate skyrocketed and should have made the hedges he bought greatly increase in value they kept acting like the hedges hadn't increased in value, basically ignoring the defaults in the bonds. I don't know what their actual role was but the movie portrayed them as acting extremely dishonestly. Maybe they were just going along with the systemic dishonesty of the larger bond market. Maybe they were desperately working to unload their own holdings in order to not get taken to the cleaners by Burry.

    And I think they were accused of basically double-dipping -- selling mortgage backed securities in the front of the house while shorting them in their own profile. That's like an oncologist selling chemotherapy to the public while investing in hospice care personally.

  10. Re:Ghee... by Yosho · · Score: 2

    And for those of us saving up to buy most of a house outright or to start a business and not storing the money for retirement?

    Well, what you have to ask yourself is: Do you want your money to be easily accessible or do you want to (safely) make money off of it? There's nothing wrong with putting your money in a savings account as long as you realize that it's just a holding area and you're not going to make a significant amount off of it.

    Realize the saving up to buy a house outright is something that basically nobody does, and the finance industry isn't going to help you out with that; they want you to put 20% down and take out a loan for the rest. Same with starting a business. You can withdraw up to 10k out of a Roth IRA without penalty for a first-time home purchase, so there's that.

    But if you want to try to make money and your cash easily available, the stock market is probably your best option. Invest in some low-risk stocks and cross your fingers.

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  11. Re:Which rock did you crawl out from under? by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What should have happened is every employee above a certain pay grade should have been brought up on RICO charges and the corporation itself should have lost its charter and been dissolved.

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  12. Re: So... by Anrego · · Score: 2

    I keep about 6 months living expenses in a plain-ol savings account (earns %0.8 interest) for accessibility and safety. Sure I could dump that money in with the rest of my investments and risk eating a loss if I need it at the wrong time, but I prefer the peace of mind of knowing I have that money available and can use it worry free if required.

  13. Re: So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    His original comment was valid because pretty much nobody should be keeping large amounts of money in checking or savings accounts (unless they're saving up for a down payment on real estate).

    My late father used to keep $50,000 in his checking. That is until Sprint debited $5,000 from checking account for his $50.00 bill. Twice. After that, he kept only $2,000 in checking and kept the rest in a CD ladder. When short-term CDs started paying less than a saving account, he got tired chasing after the rates and dumped everything into a savings account.

  14. Re:Ghee... by coinreturn · · Score: 2

    So I can get 0.05% at Boeing's credit union? No thanks. Why would I do that when GS pays 21 times more?

    Because "savings" accounts are an awful deal if you're trying to actually make money off of the interest. If you have $10k that you can let sit in your savings account for 5 years, at a 1.05% APY you will make about $500 in that time. Tell you what, I'll give you that $500 up front if you let me hold on to that $10k for five years. Does that sound like a good deal now?

    A savings/checking account is just a place to store your money on hand so that somebody can't break into your house and take it all. Go stick your money in a Roth IRA or a 401(k) instead if you actually want to save.

    But "savings" accounts are great for getting a trickle of bonus while you park some of your cash you need for liquidity purposes. I'd rather get $500 over that 5 year period than $25.

  15. Re: So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    [...] credibility to declare [...]

    That's funny. If I wanted creditability, I wouldn't be posting here. Slashdot exists to keep me amuse while I'm waiting for a script to complete at work. Thank you for your participation.

  16. Re: So... by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's why instead of giving creditors your ACH information so they can "pull" payments from your account, you should use your bank's online bill pay feature to "push" the payments. Sometimes that isn't a good option (e.g. when the bill is variable but the creditor refuses to send e-bills, or when they give a discount for signing up for their auto-pay system), but otherwise you should use it.

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