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Mitsubishi: We've Been Cheating On Fuel Tests For 25 years (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader cites an article on CNN:The situation at Mitsubishi Motors just went from bad to much, much worse. The Japanese automaker admitted Tuesday that it had falsified fuel efficiency tests for the past quarter century (warning: annoying autoplay videos, alternate source), the latest revelation in a scandal that has rocked the company. The automaker said last week that it had used improper fuel economy tests on hundreds of thousands of vehicles, including some sold to Nissan. Cars with inflated fuel efficiency ratings were sold only in Japan. Mitsubishi said it would ask lawyers from outside the company to investigate the tests.
...will be committing sudoku over this.
Mitsubishi execs later clarified that they tried to sell said cars in the U.S, but no one bought any.
What caused them to admit this now? I didn't find any mention of an enquiry or people noticing the difference. Consciousness?
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Are all car companies trying to look worst than their competitors? "Oh, you think they're bad? Check out what we did!"
I'm just waiting for a car company to come up with a ~$10K electric car now.
Good question, and I think this is because VW management has essentially escaped without criminal charges, now it's a manner of the the CxOs in the car companies getting approval from the board to take the financial hit and put this behind them.
I asked at this earlier, but I think (ie, agree with other /.ers who replied to me) - it's a case where pretty much everyone is complicit - now is a showcase of how and when all the car manufacturers come forward.
Just wish governments would simply mandate remediation as the sale of more electrics or other zero-emissions vehicles (as Elon Musk requested).
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What's happening is that you are getting an object lesson in the failure of government regulations. And the causes are not hard to understand: regulations and procedures are written based on lobbying by the corporations being regulated, and the people who implement the regulations have no economic interest in doing a good job and are easily corruptible. And there is no solution to this; what it means is that regulations will always be an inefficient and wasteful approach to solving problems. Sometimes they are necessary, often not.
For automobiles, limits on NOx have been useful in improving air quality and are probably worth it; limits on CO2 emissions from personal automobiles are not worth the trouble because they have a negligible impact on overall US greenhouse gas emissions. For CO2 emissions, a substantial tax increase would be a better mechanism if we wanted to reduce CO2 emissions from driving, but politicians know full well that they couldn't pass that. So, instead, they use CAFE, which amounts to the same thing, but whose economic effects are so obscure that people don't notice.
Dear assholes,
thanks a lot for waiting until we had to pay a crap ton of money to confess that everyone has been doing the same type of things more or less forever.
yours truly,
Volkswagen.
But couldn't a big part of the problem be that car companies were allowed to do their own fuel economy tests in the first place? Wouldn't it have been smarted to require use of a third-party testing organization, you know, the same way EVERYTHING ELSE is regulated? For example, RF interference, we don't just do the test ourselves, we have to take the equipment out to a certified testing lab. (They do take our word for it that the equipment we give them is essentially the same thing we will ship to customers.)
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Zero emissions horse shit! If in North America, you're powering that electric car with coal.
Wrong. 12 US states produce electricity with hydroelectric, solar, and wind.
Just Seattle alone has 100 percent green electricity.
Wake up and smell the 2016 calendar, grandpa, it's not 1976 anymore.
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Ontario has also gone completely coal free. They still have a few gas plants, but we're on the path to getting rid of those as well.
The breakdown is as follows
57.4% Nuclear
27.4% Hydro Electric
8.1% Gas
5.1% Wind
1.3% Biofuel
0.7% Solar
Values on that page are apparently updated in real time based on current load on the system.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
The two rogue engineers should definitely get a sternly worded reprimand letter put in the permanent files now...
The problem is far different than VWs because it is so easy to verify. Fill car with gas. Drive. Refill. Divide miles driven by gallons used. My Nissan never gets the mileage it says it should, nor what it claims to be getting with inboard electronics. BFD. It's like almost not cheating when it's that easy to check. Consumer Reports will even check for me. But they don't check emissions.
Might as well face it I'm addicted to data.