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Microsoft Limits Cortana Search Box In Windows 10 To Bing and Edge Only (venturebeat.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Microsoft has announced a big change for how the Cortana search box in Windows 10 will work going forward: all searches will be powered by Bing and all links will open with the Edge browser. This is a server-side change going into effect today. Once it takes effect on your Windows 10 computer, Cortana will no longer be able to serve up results from third-party search providers, like Google or Yahoo, nor take you to a third-party browser, such as Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox. Ryan Gavin, Microsoft's general manager of search and Cortana, said in a Windows blog post announcing the change, "Unfortunately, as Windows 10 has grown in adoption and usage, we have seen some software programs circumvent the design of Windows 10 and redirect you to search providers that were not designed to work with Cortana. The result is a compromised experience that is less reliable and predictable. The continuity of these types of task completion scenarios is disrupted if Cortana can't depend on Bing as the search provider and Microsoft Edge as the browser. The only way we can confidently deliver this personalized, end-to-end search experience is through the integration of Cortana, Microsoft Edge and Bing -- all designed to do more for you."

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  1. Translation by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Translation: You belong to us, bitches! Now bend over so we can serve you some search results!

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    1. Re:Translation by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Cortana, Microsoft Edge and Bing -- all designed to do more for you

      LOL LOL LOL LOL

      I disabled Cortana in the registry. And Edge is so dumbed-down it's useless

      We are the customers. We paid for the things that we use. We shouldn't have to be forced to go through all the 'disable the registry' hops in order to get our computer to work

      We, the consumers, have given too much 'face' to the tech companies, so much so that right now they, the service providers, get to tell us, their paymasters, what we must do, and not the other way around

      This is wrong, very wrong !

      It is the customers who should have the final say

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    2. Re:Translation by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dear Microsoft,

      Hi, are you stupid? Are you deliberately trying to make decisions that make you look as terrible as possible?

      I sort of understand the technical reasons for wanting to do this. It's a lot easier to provide consistent results if you control all the pieces to all the tech. But a "consistent experience" is not why people use Windows. If that's what people wanted, they'd already be using a Mac.

      Here's an alternative: Propose an open framework that permits intelligent agents to integrate with and work across search engines and other services, and create a useful, open source implementation that shows how Cortana integrates with Bing and Edge. Start creating some innovative software solutions instead of playing in your own little pond with your own toys, and you might actually find yourself relevant to a broader audience again.

      It looks like I was right to simply turn off Cortana and internet-enabled searching from that bar as the first thing I did after installing Windows 10. What makes you think this is going to entice me to ever turn it back on? Maybe arrange a little "accident" for my registry settings on the next update, I suppose?

      Sincerely,
      -A Windows User / Developer

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    3. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We are the customers. We paid for the things that we use.

      How many times does this need to be mentioned. You are NOT Microsoft's customer, you are their product. They are in the business of selling your browsing habits (and any other personal information they can steal) to whomever will pay them for it.

    4. Re:Translation by Xenx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows 10 is a paid for product. Yes, most people got free upgrades to it. However, it's disingenuous to act like it's a free product. Anyone building/buying a new computer with Windows 10 is likely paying for Windows 10.

  2. Fine with me, for now by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First thing I do when installing windows 10 is to disable cortana, and limit search to the local computer only.

    I don't need or want desktop search to go out on the internet; that's what the search in my browser is for.

    The is emblematic of the entire issue with cortana on the desktop. There needs to be desktop search. When I want to search my computer for a file that starts with 'kid' i just want results from my computer. I don't care about Nicole Kidman's latest movie, i don't care about 'kid friendly meals'.

    I get that microsoft wants to be able to get you to search from the desktop with Cortana... and that's fine I guess for people who want that. But I still need desktop search, and right now, cortana and web results gets in the way of that. If it was a separate UI, I migth leave it on and use.. but its not. So I disable cortana and I disable including web results.

    1. Re:Fine with me, for now by wbr1 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I don't like 300 apps on my desktop. Nor do I like clicking sub menus in the start menu. Start menu search is fast and easy.

      Just because you do not use a feature doe not make it useless. Personally I have never had an airbag deploy. Do I call for their removal from cars to save cost?

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    2. Re:Fine with me, for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My films and tv shows are organised into folders alphabetically by title (then by season for tv shows), which is great for DLNA browsing via my TV. But if I'm on my PC and I know what I want to watch, why would I click through subfolders then scroll through hundreds of titles when I can just type 3 letters and get there fairly instantly?

    3. Re:Fine with me, for now by dcollins · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Do you not have any data files? I have records of several thousand students over the past decade for whom people occasionally ask me about their grades or for a reference. My partner has over 300 clients who maybe ask about a certain part of their website once a year. I had to do a local search today to find the particular class in which I referenced Noam Chomsky two years ago. People actually using their computers to do stuff over several years do this all the time.

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  3. Here we go by wbr1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Unfortunately, as Windows 10 has grown in adoption and usage, we have seen some software programs circumvent the design of Windows 10 and redirect you to search providers that were not designed to work with Cortana. The result is a compromised experience that is less reliable and predictable. The continuity of these types of task completion scenarios is disrupted if Cortana can't depend on Bing as the search provider and Microsoft Edge as the browser. The only way we can confidently deliver this personalized, end-to-end search experience is through the integration of Cortana, Microsoft Edge and Bing -- all designed to do more for you."

    Unfortunately, as we have continued to sneak Windows 10 onto unsuspecting users systems, we have seen some software designed to disrupt the malware like experience of Windows 10 and redirect you to search providers that were not designed to collect all of your information and send it to Microsoft. The result is a compromised user database that is not worth as much as an ad platform as we had hoped. The completeness of our database is crucial to us, and is disrupted if CompTelRunner, Cortana, and other subsystems cannot use the MS backend for data collection. The only way we can plan on how to pillage further and make our database more valuable to other entities (NSA) is through the integration of Cortana, Edge, and Bing. -- All designed to capture more for us."

    FTFY

    Disclosure, sent from a Win 10 box. Hypocritical I know.

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  4. money money money by Sigvatr · · Score: 1, Insightful

    $$$$$$$$$$ money money money

  5. Re:Even if you force me, I won't Bing anything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That makes two of us then! You know why? Because, let's face it, Bing sucks. Because the one job it has it can't do. Give me quality results on the SERP page. Bing results suck. Period. Until they fix that fatal flaw, people will run, not walk away from it. Of course, why fix your product when you can just shove it down your customers' throats? Monopolistic megacorp motherfuckers.

  6. Re:Antitrust violation? by sheetsda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing is preventing you from using any browser and search engine you want. Typing something into Cortana doesn't get you anything you can't get by typing the same thing into any search engine.

    Bundling Internet Explorer with Windows is what got them into trouble in 2001. Nothing stopped users from downloading some other browser but that argument didn't prevent Microsoft being found in violation of antitrust law.

    I'm amazed at how blatantly they're ignoring history.

  7. Meh... by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would annoy me if I had any reason to run Windows. Thankfully, that's not the case.

    -jcr

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  8. Edge, AKA the Little Browser that Couldn't by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I had to use Edge at work for a couple of months and it would frequently crash while trying to render Slashdot. Maybe as much as 50% of the time it would freeze or pop up a message saying that "Edge has stopped" and then it would try and restart.

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  9. Re:Even if you force me, I won't Bing anything. by rwven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did MS learn nothing from their antitrust rulings in the early 00s?

    And yes, bing is a terrible abhorrent creation. MS should be ashamed.

  10. Microsoft Consent Decree expired by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could it be that the settlement against Microsoft established in 2002 which, amongst other things, required them to open their browser to competition, was preventing them from eliminating competing search engines? The only reason Microsoft permitted other browsers, and by extension, search engines in the browser, was because of this case. I suspect that they just forgot that they can now be evil again.