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US Steel Says China Is Using Cyber Stealth To Steal Its Secrets (npr.org)

An anonymous reader writes: U.S. Steel Corp. filed a trade complaint with the International Trade Commission: "The Chinese industry has formed a cartel that sets purchase and sale prices, and controls production and export volumes to target export markets. The Chinese industry has used its government to steal U.S. Steel's closely guarded trade secrets and uses those trade secrets to produce advanced steel products it could not make on its own." The steelmaker based in Pittsburgh argues its Chinese rivals must be investigated and that they will "use every tool available to fight for fair trade." The ITC has 30 days to review the complaint and determine whether or not it's worth investigating. In the meantime, China's Commerce Ministry said the complaints "have no factual basis," urging the ITC to reject U.S. Steel's case. The investigation will likely take a while if the ITC decides to proceed with an investigation, as they'll be dealing with three separate issues: price fixing, false labeling to avoid duties, and theft of trade secrets.

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  1. Criminal yes, Poor Security yes by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure China likes to commit industrial espionage. Everyone know that. However, when are corporations (individuals) going to stop hiding behind laws--in the hopes that they will save them--and start taking responsibility for their own security? When in the history of the world has a law stopped a sufficiently motivated criminal?

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    1. Re:Criminal yes, Poor Security yes by axewolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You say that like american business didn't invent modern industrial espionage. Did you miss WW2?

  2. Industrial Espionage by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sometimes we forget: It's not just governments spying on other governments or their citizens... sometimes this is done for fun and profit.

    Just don't pretend you've a right to the high road. Chances are, your gov't engages in this subterfuge, too.

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  3. Re:China launches cyberattacks against thebUS by WarJolt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And Slashdot will defend China because most of the users here inexplicably hate the US.

    That's bullshit. American /.ers hate either American big business (aka wallstreet) or they hate the American government (aka mainstreet). Some /.ers hate both. This is no different than the rest of America. In China they are basically the same thing, so you're just wrong.

  4. You gave it to them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Chinese industry has used its government to steal U.S. Steel's closely guarded trade secrets and uses those trade secrets to produce advanced steel products it could not make on its own."

    Really? Really?! You could have fooled me with all those US steel engineers flying out with specs and plans and installing new hardware and software and generally doing just about everything to move the entire fucking industrial supply chain out to China to cut down on labour costs. Is there a single thing that US steel manufacturers didn't teach their Chinese sub-contractors to do over the last 20 years? Out of curiosity. Indulge me here.

  5. Keep IP off the Internet and... by Streetlight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do companies put their most secret and important intellectual property (IP) on servers connected to the Internet? What they should do is put phony, but looking somewhat reasonable, IP on their "secure" servers. The IP thieves should have some significant difficulty getting at it to make them feel like it's the real stuff. When they spend millions or billions building a factory to duplicate the stuff and then find out it was bogus, so much the better. Maybe the thieves will stop stealing and spend their money and time on innovation.

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  6. Wow, what a surprise... by mikeiver1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe if American companies didn't put their most sensitive information on servers maintained by cheap out of country IT workers and protect said data with cheap off the shelf hardware configured by the cheapest IT staff they can lay hands on they would not find themselves being literally put out of business by their lesser competition.

  7. translation: management whine by dltaylor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We don't want to spend the resources to properly secure our data and infrastructure, so we're going to whine about it, instead, and hope we can get someone else (like the US taxpayers) to solve the problem we've created for ourselves.

  8. Should have patented it by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, China is steeling trade secrets. The kinds of secrets Patents were invented to protect. Since the steel companies didn't try to protect their inventions in the ways set up that greatly benefit corporations, they deserve to lose them to the Public Domain (where trade secrets lost end up). The people of the US are better off, now that we can legally use the same tech. It's corporate greed. They didn't want to have it exclusively for only 14+ years, so kept it secret until they lost it. They gambled and lost, and had the intention to keep it hidden forever.

    Further proof that IP laws don't work.