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Debian Dropping Support For Older CPUs (distrowatch.com)

An anonymous reader shares DistroWatch's report that the Debian distribution will soon be dropping support for older, 32-bit processors.
The Debian project supports a wide range of hardware architectures, including 32-bit x86 CPUs. Changes are happening in Debian's development branches which will make older versions of the 32-bit architecture obsolete. Ben Hutchings provides the details:

"Last year it was decided to increase the minimum CPU features for the i386 architecture to 686-class in the Stretch release cycle. This means dropping support for 586-class and hybrid 586/686 processors. (Support for 486-class processors was dropped, somewhat accidentally, in Squeeze.) This was implemented in the Linux kernel packages starting with Linux 4.3, which was uploaded to Unstable in December last year. In case you missed that change, GCC for i386 has recently been changed to target 686-class processors and is generating code that will crash on other processors. Any such systems still running Testing or Unstable will need to be switched to run Stable (Jessie)."
Hutching's announcement includes a list of processors which will no longer be supported after Debian "Jessie".

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  1. Re:Shame by tom229 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I prefer the way my lawn used to be as well, I can't really fault distributions dropping support for 20 year old hardware. Every year there's new hardware you have to support and developers and maintainers have to spend their time wisely. So, you have 20 year old hardware? You'll just have to use old packages, or fiddle with the source to build your own. Even the kernel as of 3.7 dropped i386. Why? Well, it was a massive pain to maintain, and people running 30 year old hardware are probably fine running old versions of the kernel. There's not much to see here. Most commercial developers have 10 year support cycles - were taking about 20 year old hardware here.

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  2. Re:Sad to see Debian... by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No need to run the latest distributions on a POS terminal. Just get an older one.

  3. Re:Intel Pentium with MMX from 1993 by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It's difficult to imagine that that processor still has the grunt to run an OS these days."

    What, did you forget that pretty much everything you're doing RIGHT NOW is exactly the same stuff you were doing back on Windows 95/98? Playing games, surfing the web, watching videos (not streamed, usually from VCD or DVD) and maybe getting some work done.

    Nothing has changed. People just got shitty at programming.

    MenuetOS shows this off quite well. It does everything. Even runs Quake. Full GUI, supports all kinds of shit.

    1.4 Megabytes.

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  4. Re:Sad to see Debian... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And then deal with the fact that the versions are EOL and you're running without patches.

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  5. Re:I was running one within the past two months. by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maintaining useless old CPU architectures costs time and money. Given you can buy a Pentium 4 class CPU for $3 (or a quad core 2.8GHz i7 for $50), and a good developer's time is easily worth $100 per hour, it just plain doesn't make sense to support 20+ year old Intel chips.

    If you believe differently, well - GCC is an open source project. How much are you paying to use it? Support it yourself, or spend $100 and get a new i686 capable computer.

  6. Re:Finally by Guy+Harris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Debian Dropping Support For Older CPUs

    It doesn't say anything about 32 bit or i686 in the headline. Just says older cpus.

    And in the first line of the story it says "An anonymous reader shares DistroWatch's report that the Debian distribution will soon be dropping support for older, 32-bit processors." Perhaps the comma after "older" should have been left out, so that it was clear that it meant "those 32-bit processors that are older", as in "pre-P6", rather than "those older processors - you know, the 32-bit ones".

  7. Re:So.. Slackware? by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But you're not using a 30 year old system in production are you?

    I'd wager the only place you'll find a 30 year old system is in production.