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Senate GOP Launches Inquiry Into Facebook's News Curation (gizmodo.com)

Michael Nunez, reporting for Gizmodo: The US Senate Commerce Committee -- which has jurisdiction over media issues, consumer protection issues, and internet communication -- has sent a letter to Mark Zuckerberg requesting answers to questions it has on its trending topics section. The letter comes after Gizmodo on Monday reported on allegations by one former news curator, who worked for Facebook as a contractor, that the curation team routinely suppressed or blacklisted topics of interest to conservatives. That report also included allegations from several former curators that they used an "injection tool" to add or bump stories onto the trending module. The letter asks that Facebook "arrange for your staff including employees responsible for trending topics to brief committee staff on this issue." The letter was signed by Chairman for the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, Senator John Thune (R) from South Dakota.

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  1. So what? by PublicSchill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not like ABC News, Fox News, and all the other major news networks don't do the same thing... Why does it matter if Facebook does it? The news industry in the USA has a reputation of being garbage. Why investigate Facebook for keeping with the low standards of everyone else?

    1. Re:So what? by pak9rabid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, if Facebook is smart, they'll bring this up and drag the rest of the fuckers through the mud with them.

    2. Re:So what? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Because it made the headlines that Facebook may have a policy to suppress conservative views as a company strategy. The confirms the Republican narrative that only their views are being censored by the mainstream media, giving politicians the opportunity to play the victim game. Never mind all the free press given to Donald Trump during this election cycle.

    3. Re:So what? by Mycroft-X · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Because if something is being presented as being strictly based on popular interest, but is actually based on private interests, then that is misleading consumers. The other "news" organizations haven't been accused of advertising one methodology for presenting stories but actually using another.

      It would be like a polling organization saying it took a random phone survey of 1,000 likely voters to get its results, but then was caught manipulating their definition of the term "likely" to distort their resulting data. They generally like to leave the distortion to the data interpreters, not bake it into the data itself.

    4. Re:So what? by ausekilis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why investigate Facebook for keeping with the low standards of everyone else?

      Because millions of people don't sign into the websites of those news agencies each day to be fed the agenda of those organizations.

      Advertising works. The message being sent to millions of people worldwide is curated by a handful of people under one organization that isn't the gov't. This is them saying "Bullshit! that's our job!"

    5. Re:So what? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because it's well understood that the stories reported by Fox News and NBC News are whatever Fox and NBC deem newsworthy. They don't pretend that the stories they've picked are "Trending" or "Shared" amongst regular users.

      Basically they're being dishonest. If Facebook wants to push its political viewpoint then they should just come right out and say so. Don't pretend it's all done by an algorithm based on only popularity.

    6. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because if something is being presented as being strictly based on popular interest, but is actually based on private interests, then that is misleading consumers. The other "news" organizations haven't been accused of advertising one methodology for presenting stories but actually using another.

      So Fox News is actually "Fair and Balanced"?

    7. Re:So what? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why investigate Facebook for keeping with the low standards of everyone else?

      Because it's Congress and they can investigate anything for the sheer hell of it.

      Get the popcorn; it's political theater folks!

    8. Re:So what? by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it made the headlines that Facebook may have a policy to suppress conservative views as a company strategy.

      And if Facebook is doing this, so what? Have these Senators not heard of the First Amendment? Or is that part of the constitution only important when opaque Super PACs are supporting Republican candidates?

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    9. Re:So what? by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2, Informative

      They cannot pass a law about it but they can see if the allegations are correct. This is a legitimate action by congress,

      ? The allegation is corruption on the part of a business. Are you saying that Congress may not investigate business to ascertain if corruption is part and parcel of their business plan? (Even if they cannot pass a law to rectify the situation?)

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    10. Re:So what? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If the Facebook thing is true, I personally fine it reprehensible, but it IS a private company, and perfectly within its bounds to do this type of thing.

      I find it sad that there is really no balanced, and truly investigative news source these days.

      24/7 cable news pushed things very far to where it is JUST about getting eyes and money for those 24/7, and the news is just a commodity that is taken and rather than being reported, is analyzed and opinionized (is this a word?)....and nothing but opinion pieces are put out by both sides of the political compass....although I still see the balance as being still more left than right with all the media out there for the most part.

      But for the social media giant FB, I'd think it would be much more interesting to see what the populace opinons ARE...rather than try to guide them by injecting the owners' own political slant into the trends.

      But hey, these are PRIVATE companies, and I don't feel it is the governments business, nor a constitutionally mandated power to have them even question what "news" or news-like products the private sector is putting out....

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    11. Re:So what? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or is that part of the constitution only important when opaque Super PACs are supporting Republican candidates?

      Bingo!

    12. Re:So what? by tekrat · · Score: 2

      If there was, FoxNews.com should have their picture in the post office, be on the FBI's most wanted list, and have their building surrounded by a SWAT team.

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    13. Re:So what? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Never mind all the free press given to Donald Trump during this election cycle.

      1) The MSM tried to ignore Trump, saying he was a "reality TV star" and not a "real politician". You can find those stories in August. That didn't last long, but it existed

      2) You your self have just given him "Free Publicity" by mentioning him ...again. Much of the publicity is organic

      3) Protesters protesting Trump, create news stories for Trump. Again, the free publicity by protesting Trump.

      While I cannot tell if you're Pro or Anti Trump from your post, my guess is that you aren't really in favor. You might want to consider actually standing for someone who is also running. I don't know ANY actual "Pro" Hilary people. Most of the left leaning people I know want Bernie, and the rest will vote for anyone with the (D) after their name.

      And while I have addressed Trump here, I am also going to point out, that I will NOT be voting for him, as I don't vote (D) or (R). I'm voting Libertarian. Don't blame me for what happens when people elect the unqualified and the scoundrels to office, I vote, just not for any of them.

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    14. Re:So what? by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because if something is being presented as being strictly based on popular interest, but is actually based on private interests, then that is misleading consumers. The other "news" organizations haven't been accused of advertising one methodology for presenting stories but actually using another.

      Let me suggest that you are not being "Fair and balanced" here.

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    15. Re:So what? by wisnoskij · · Score: 2

      Because news stations are content creators, they are supposed to be biased. While FB is a modern day phone or mail system.

      Their is a difference between a show designed to put forward a certain philosophy, and a phone system or mail system that eliminates certain viewpoints.

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    16. Re:So what? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If action cannot be taken due to that pesky "free speech" thing why are they wasting taxpayer resources "investigating?" To what end? It's not like they're going to highlight the Koch brothers speech, neither all the super PACs, nor Fox News, nor Breitbart, nor Chick-fil-a, nor countless other businesses, news or otherwise that operate and communicate with a certain political lean.

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    17. Re:So what? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You realize that Trump is a democrat right?

      You really think that Trump has some sort of consistent ideology which matches up with one of the 2 major political parties in the country? His strategy is to say whatever it takes to get him through that minute, hour, interview, debate, etc, even if it's in complete opposition to what he said yesterday. He'll also just outright deny saying that he ever said something which he was recorded saying. He doesn't exactly have a consistent ethos which he uses to guide his opinions.

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    18. Re:So what? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      The news media could have ignored Trump, but they chose not to because they love a good circus. With 17 contestants vying for the Republican nomination, the circus was a given and the circus gave in abundance. As Democracy burns this November, the news media will be cheering all the way.

    19. Re:So what? by barc0001 · · Score: 2

      > then that is misleading consumers

      So, tell me how much does this Facebook thing cost to use? Oh, nothing? All right then! Damages of Zero Dollars it is!

    20. Re:So what? by Kierthos · · Score: 2

      Trump is Trump. He's neither a Republican, nor a Democrat. He's going to say whatever he feels like saying, and it changes from day to day. And plenty of people are lapping that up, which, for the life of me, I cannot understand.

      He's barely been consistent on anything other than racism and xenophobia.

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    21. Re:So what? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The allegation is corruption on the part of a business.

      What the hell does that even mean? Does Facebook have some stated legally-binding policy somewhere which says that they will provide completely unbiased news coverage? Where is the corruption?

      Since businesses are not actually people, but only run by them, then wouldn't it make sense if the biases of those people were reflected in the way the company does business? Is it illegal to have bias, or only show news stories that are of a particular brand? Because, if so, then virtually every news organization is guilty.

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    22. Re:So what? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      It's fun to see Trump try to talk on religion. He knows he needs to have that card in his hand to be successful as a Republican, but he has clearly got no knowledge of the field at all, or of American right-wing religious culture. Every time he tries he manages some form of gaffe - from being unable to cite a single bible verse when asked, to referring to 'two Corinthians' in a speech, to managing to anger both sides when speaking about abortion - twice.

    23. Re:So what? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even if it's true though, it isn't corruption. It's not illegal for a company to decide what to post on their own website, or to manually adjust their algorithms in real time. I'm sure facebook would do that at a minimum to prevent embarassing topics from hitting the top, like openly racist columns or conspiracy theories.

    24. Re:So what? by Kierthos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have noticed it's an election year, right? This is barely more than political theater.

      "How DARE a corporation DO THIS THING!" even though Republicans seem to love letting corporations do pretty much anything and (some) are champions of deregulation....

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    25. Re:So what? by fropenn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I like Sanders, but he's a good example of the point I was trying to make. The act of running for president has pressured and / or forced him to do things that he otherwise would not have done - like calling Hillary Clinton "unqualified" to be president. And we all make mistakes and have regrets, but to me this is the very nature of the act of running for president and the intense pressure and scrutiny it produces - it would do the same to me, and likely to you, too.

    26. Re:So what? by humptheElephant · · Score: 4, Informative

      I find that all of them don't report what the really important things. Slashdot at least will often have something important while most of the news is just a pitch for some product. I don't find it slanted to the left at all, MSNBC doesn't have the power that Fox News has. I find the supposed left wing MSNBC a little to the right, but we all have different opinions. We don't read much in the news of South and Central America and what our government has done to those countries. We don't get reporting on why Iran hates us so much because of Eisenhower's interference in a duly elected government back in the 1950s. We hear about Syrian refugees not being welcome but who in the hell caused them to be refugee? What about Iraq? It was our foreign policies that contributed to these problems.

    27. Re:So what? by pseudorand · · Score: 2

      So are you suggesting the government should decide which stories are true and which are false and potentially punish anyone publishing things it decides is false? That sounds way more scary to me than Facebook censoring certain things (which we should all assume all private media companies are doing).

      While a agree with your lament at the state of media, I hardly thing it's anything new. The pen (or at least the stump before literacy was wide-spread) has been mightier than the sword and powerful people have therefore always done anything they could to control who sees what information.

      The only difference is that the internet makes it very obvious how much contradictory info really is out there and how horribly wrong most of it must be. Believe nothing you haven't experience for yourself over a long period of time!

    28. Re:So what? by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

      The primary question is: is there a role for Congress? how does one evaluate that? I don't know. But I don't think it's a clear cut case of Congress CANNOT, DOES NOT have a role here.

      We have 1000s of laws (many if not most stupid) regarding commerce and information distribution. Which, if any apply here? I have no idea.

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    29. Re:So what? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Informative

      What I do know is that if there is a "credible" allegation of corruption (whatever that means) that Congress can and should investigate it.

      Maybe they can start with themselves.

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    30. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >This is a legitimate action by congress,

      No it isn't. Congress is not in the business of "seeing if allegations are correct." Especially when there is no law that could be passed to do anything about it. It's not "corruption", because facebook isn't taking cash to do this. It's a company exercising their (bought and paid for by republican super pac's) right to free speech.

      Let me respond to another post of yours.

      >Is it the role of Congress to investigate corporate corruption?

      No. And again, if there are allegations of corruption, pursue them in the court system. Not a star chmaber.

    31. Re:So what? by Altus · · Score: 2

      They may have said he was not a viable candidate or that he was just a reality TV star but thats not ignoring him, it is certainly not ignoring him when you do that for the majority of the time on your news broadcasts. Its not even close to ignoring Trump, its giving him the microphone, at that point it almost doesn't matter what the talking heads have to say.

      If you want to see what its like to be ignored by the meida, take a look at what they did with Sanders, thats ignoring a candidate.

      http://mediamatters.org/blog/2...

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    32. Re:So what? by Altus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Buying into the two party system is what ensures that we will stay in this mess forever.

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    33. Re:So what? by orgelspieler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps, but the Republicans have moved to the extreme, too. You simply have to look at Ronald Reagan to know that what used to be middle-right (and is even held up as conservative), would be too far to the left to run in the GOP now. Raised taxes 19 times, granted amnesty for 3 million illegals, engaged in unconditional talks with the enemy, etc. Not to mention the fact that he was from Hollywood.

    34. Re:So what? by Bartles · · Score: 2

      So say Facebook were to add a trending stories feature to it's site. It is implied both directly and indirectly that these trending stories are allowed to naturally propagate and appear on a newsfeed. Facebook attracts business with this feature and users sign up for it under those conditions. Only later is it learned that the stories aren't really trending at all but are actually selected and censored by Facebook employees. You don't think there's a case to be made for false advertising?

    35. Re:So what? by Bartles · · Score: 2

      False advertisement is not protected speech.

    36. Re:So what? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd say that his attitude is what would get us out of this mess. He looked at the candidates from the two major parties, didn't like any of them, and decided to vote third party. Nothing wrong with that at all. It's the people who say "I'm voting Democrat/Republican because that's how I always vote regardless of who is running" or the people who say "I don't like anyone so I'm protesting by not voting" that I have a problem with. The former allow party affiliation to rule their choice regardless of policy positions. The latter aren't really "protesting" because not voting is essentially invisible to the politicians.

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    37. Re:So what? by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      ut there may be a problem with them telling us its showing us everything thats trending when in reality they are actively blocking something, and artificially inflating others. If this disclaimer is there its fine but it isnt there

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    38. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trump is a populist. There is no true popular party in the US, just two factions run by the elite for the elite. This shows up when candidates try to act like ordinary people: John Kerry's gaffes on the campaign trail as he ate dainties on his bus and avoided commoners' food on the ground, Ted Cruz' inability to speak cogently about basketball, Clinton trying to use the subway, Romney standing on bales of hay shouting that corporations are people too, my friend. The candidates mostly come from the same schools, belong to the same circles, have the same friends and even donors. They have nothing in common with the people.

      Trump doesn't really have anything in common with the people either, but he's studied them. The things that seem laughable about him - his appearances on wrestling, his reality TV days - were all far more in touch with the actual demos, the electorate, than anything the other candidates have done for many years. He knows what the other candidates don't, namely how deeply the middle class feels resentment and anger over the loss of their economic status and the enrichment of the mahogany row of the C-level suite. He is a C-level himself, but he gets what the other C-levels don't, namely how the people actually feel.

      So, no, he's not a Democrat or a Republican. He's certainly not a conservative. He's not a raging social liberal either. He is a populist, winning support from the middle of the bell-curve by appealing to a sense of injustice resulting from long-term economic trends. His message, every other politician in either party be damned, will be whatever he thinks the people want to hear, centering on their economic status. Immigration? "They take our jobs. They send money to Mexico instead of keeping it in the economy. Build a wall." Fairly consistent message. Ask about something like abortion, and he'll be all over the map, because abortion doesn't have an economic anchor to which to tie his narrative.

    39. Re:So what? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find that all of them don't report what the really important things. Slashdot at least will often have something important while most of the news is just a pitch for some product. I don't find it slanted to the left at all, MSNBC doesn't have the power that Fox News has. I find the supposed left wing MSNBC a little to the right, but we all have different opinions. We don't read much in the news of South and Central America and what our government has done to those countries. We don't get reporting on why Iran hates us so much because of Eisenhower's interference in a duly elected government back in the 1950s. We hear about Syrian refugees not being welcome but who in the hell caused them to be refugee? What about Iraq? It was our foreign policies that contributed to these problems.

      Well, this is how I see it as a US citizen, and NOT taking into account what left and right are in the rest of the world, but ONLY as it is perceived in the US.

      I'd put Fox News on the right to far right. CNN is just left of center for the most part I think, they used to be a bit further left, but of late they seem to have move very slightly towards center left. MSNBC is far left. I'd say the main network news (ABC, NBC, CBS) are all middle left for the most part.

      So, even though Fox News is, like you said...very large (funny how they grab this whole demographic with no real competition, seems someone would like to challenge this?)....the rest of the main cable and mainstream media in the US are on the left for the most part.

      Again, this is by US standards...not something of a EU perception of left. We don't care about that, let them live how they want do, but this is US left/right.

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    40. Re:So what? by Solandri · · Score: 2

      To quote a geek favorite line: "With great power comes great responsibility." Funny how that goes out the window when that power is abused in a way that favors your personal opinion.

      If you're going to proffer a service to the masses with the algorithmically simple concept of showing you the most popular things people are talking about, then that's what it should do, period. If you take it upon yourself to modify that algorithm so that it deviates from what you've marketed it as, you need to disclose that. Most already do for the topics you've mentioned - the EULA for most sites explicitly states that racist comments, spam, nudity, excessive swearing, and illegal materials like child pornography and copyrighted works will be deleted. If Facebook wants to extend that policy to include right-leaning political materials only, then they are free to do so, But they need to disclose it and bear whatever consequences that arise.

      I'm of the opinion that openly partisan sites (and magazines and TV news channels), by insulating their users from alternative political points of view, increase political polarization and reduce people's willingness to compromise. So they're partially responsible for the increasing dysfunction of modern politics. I won't go so far as to say that the press and the companies running these sites need to be forced to be less partisan. But we do need to recognize that this is a factor when debating how to address situations like this.

  2. FB isn't even a news source by DudeTheMath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look out, /. editors; you're next.

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    1. Re:FB isn't even a news source by geek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Look out, /. editors; you're next.

      Zuckerberg has stated manyy times that he wants Facebook to be your only news source.

  3. So FB, a private company can't show what they want by stillpixel · · Score: 2

    If Facebook is a private non-governmental company what does it matter if they decide to do that to the news feed? No body pays for access to the site, so you get what you pay for. If you feel that you are not getting your fullest daily dose of insane right-wing news you can just go to Fox or Brietbart.

  4. False advertising? by mi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why does it matter if Facebook does it?

    Though all news-sources profess objectivity, we know, they are run by fallible humans, who are bound to act on their own impulses and agendas.

    Facebook, however, implied — or, maybe, even explicitly stated — that its "trending" module is driven by an objective computer-algorithm.

    These claims appear false now, which may open them to legal charges of false advertising.

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    1. Re:False advertising? by coinreturn · · Score: 2

      I see no explanation on FB of what "trending" means. Perhaps their definition is "stories FB cares about most." There is no false advertising, just whining rightwingers claiming to be victims as usual.

    2. Re:False advertising? by coinreturn · · Score: 3, Informative

      I see no explanation on FB of what "trending" means.

      In denial much? Right bloody here:

      Trending shows you a list of topics and hashtags that have recently spiked in popularity on Facebook.

      This undeniably implies objectivity. Depending on how (un)charitable you wish to be, it also explicitly promises it...

      No it most certainly does not. You purposely ignored this particular line:

      The topics you see are based on a number of factors including engagement, timeliness, Pages you've liked and your location.

      It DOES not say anything like "objectivity." The "number of factors" gives them all the leeway to put whatever the fuck they want in there.

      just whining rightwingers claiming to be victims

      Well, they certainly were victims here. The only question remaining is whether this was legal or not.

      Nope, no victims. Just more whining.

  5. Re:What is the alleged crime? by Salgak1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly. It's political theater. The classic case of which was the "Parent's Music Resource Council", where Tipper Gore got then-Senator Al Gore to hold a hearing on lyrics in top-40 songs. Testifying were Frank Zappa, John Denver, and Dee Snider. Fairly epic hearing, as I recall, and I also seem to recall a movie was made of it. . .

  6. Partisian nonsense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The facebook contractors were told to block conservative stories (whatever that means these days) and these GOP Senators are making a big deal out of it - to get votes and continue the myth that the media has a Liberal (whatever that means these days) bias.

    And of course there is going to be a big chunk of their constituency that will fall for this complete and utter waste of Senate time.

    Idiocracy is a documentary you know.

  7. Dear The Senate by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Senator John Thune (R) from South Dakota, Chairman for the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,

    Fuck off. We're a corporate not government entity and can do whatever we want with our property. Remember, you Republicans are are suppose to be way into that.

    Hugs and Kisses,
    Facebook

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    1. Re:Dear The Senate by orgelspieler · · Score: 2

      Remember its you on the left that constantly advocate and pass legislation limiting various kinds of speech...

      By definition, liberals are against any limitation on free speech. Maybe you are thinking of some other group? Democrats and Republicans, for instance?

  8. Re:What is the alleged crime? by geek · · Score: 2

    Exactly. It's political theater.

    Its public discourse and something sadly lacking in this day and age of finger pointing. This is one of the committees functions and is meant to shed light on a topic of interest to the American public. It's unfortunate people like you are to partisan and biased to see the value of this.

  9. Re:Facebook = evil by Kierthos · · Score: 2

    Okay, let's get something straight. If FB chooses to show, or chooses not to show a news article under their "Trending" section, it's not abridging your freedom of speech. You are perfectly free to look anywhere else for news. They are under no obligation to provide news that you, in particular, are going to find interesting.

    In other words, there is a difference between "Trending" and "Interesting".

    Furthermore, having FB access is a privilege, not a right, and FB is free to allow access to all or to ban anyone they feel like, for any reason they feel like, as long as that reason (at least in the U.S.) doesn't violate a protected class. For example, they cannot ban someone based on that person's gender, religion, race, etc., but they can ban you for pretty much any other reason.

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  10. Typical Republican Bull by tekrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They'll investigate Facebook for bias but not Fox News.

    They'll investigate Clinton for operating an email server, but not Rice or Powell, who also operated their own email server.

    Man. Republicans act like spoiled brats, and somehow we accept this as part of our political system.

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    1. Re:Typical Republican Bull by Straif · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They'll investigate Facebook for bias but not Fox News.

      They're investigating Facebook for what is effectively false advertising. Claiming that their "trending" feature is an actual representation of trending stories amongst users and not a filtered and modified list of stories of personal interest of a select few reviewers. If it was just about bias where are the requests for MSNBC and CNN to appear?

      They'll investigate Clinton for operating an email server, but not Rice or Powell, who also operated their own email server.

      They're investigating Clinton for storing classified and top secret information outside of legal channels and neither Rice of Powell had their own servers. Rice barely used email at all (though some of her aides did) and Powell came in when the rules allowed for outside services (but not for classified info and as of today no one has pointed to any classified info in Powell's emails) as long as a .gov email address was cc'd; a practive he claims to have followed and no one has been able to show otherwise. He was also at least partially responsible for forcing the State Dept to update their email systems because apparently they were so antiquated at the time as to be more of a hindrance.

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  11. There is a difference by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, most news outlets pick and choose what to report on, and all of them have a partisan bent (which is nice to hear you admit since so many on Slashdot claim most news stations are "objective").

    However is does seem like there is an important and insidious difference. While news stations choose what they THINK is news, Facebook KNOWS what is news because of links people are sharing and what people are talking about - and knowing what is important to many people, they purposefully exclude any items that are important to lots of conservatives.

    On a site that is supposed to represent the curation of your interests and friends, it seems like rather a betrayal to bury something that you and other people like you find important.

    I would say the same thing regardless of what was being suppressed. I could see and agree with Facebook injecting at times news it thought was important and should be more widely seen (even if that itself had a partisan bent) but it's quite a lot different to censor the spread of something popular because of ideology.

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  12. What BS by mbone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fox News spews lies morning, noon and night, and no one in Washington raises a peep. Now, this will be become the false scandal of the hour (a new one is needed, as Benghazi is fading, and it looks like the FBI won't deliver the goods on those email servers), so without doubt we'll being hearing about this ad infinitum for months.

    1. Re:What BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Speaking of BS, Hillary has also been on Fox multiple times, and was most recently interviewed by Wallace over Benghazi. So has Pelosi. Obama was interviewed by O'Reilly twice, maybe even a third time. He's been interviewed by other Fox hosts as well, he did one with Chris Wallace just this past month. These interviews are all online and heavily promoted by Fox

      So you should probably not make stuff up.

  13. Re:Now that the shoe's on the other foot by mbone · · Score: 2

    You don't understand how false scandals work. No one cares about logic or validity of arguments, the sound of things is the only thing that counts.

  14. Are you serious? by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do they not have anything better to do? What's wrong, is Bengazi not getting sufficient attention anymore, so now it's time for a new witchhunt?

    Fox has been doing far worse for years, why arn't they being investigated?

  15. Missing the point by erp_consultant · · Score: 2

    Many on this thread are missing the point. Facebook is a private company and they are entitled to promote whatever they consider "news". They are no different in that regard from Fox News and CNN and the New York Times. Each of which produces its own version of the news, designed to push whatever political agenda they happen to have. This should be obvious to anyone that watches or reads content from those outlets. The exact same story will get reported in a different way, sometimes slightly different, sometimes completely different. Other stories are simply not reported.

    What makes it different for Facebook is that they claim their new stories appear as a result of "trending". Meaning that they are the most talked about, most "liked", most "shared" stories and that there is some fancy algorithm behind it. When it appears that these stories appear in the trending section based solely upon the opinion of a small group of editors at Facebook. Fox and CNN and the NYT make no such claims. It just so happens that conservative stories were suppressed but it would no less evil had it been liberal stories.

    The point is that Facebook has lied and mislead its users. Sadly, Facebook has a long history of this. It is one of the reasons that I don't use Facebook. I simply don't trust them. Not with my data and not to deliver an unbiased news feed.

  16. There is "free press" and there is "free press" by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hillary gets a lot of free press - about how awesome she is, about how she did this or that for the good of mankind.

    The "free press" Trump gets is pretty much all "look at the insane thing Trump is doing now" or "this new person thinks Trump is Hitler, don't you agree".

    How is Trump not the victim still? The only different between Trump and other victims of the press is Trump is skilled in New Judo, turning back attacks to ridicule the attacker. It does not excuse the nature and viciousness of the attacks, even though they are "free" and the end result is more people admiring Trump...

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  17. True Conservatism by PvtVoid · · Score: 2

    Because the GOP is all about keeping Big Government out of the choices of Free Citizens.

  18. The Madness Spreads by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's the reality. Clinton and Trump are both historically disliked.

    How can you be so dense as to conflate results with actions?

    Clinton and Trump are, yes, both widely disliked.

    But the media is mostly soft on Hillary, and very harsh on Trump. The *reality* is disconnected from what the media attempts to MAKE reality.

    Now it is true that thanks to Sanders, there have been some more widely reported negatives about Hillary. But it's still been VERY soft compared to Hillary.

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  19. Because Trump hasn't made them look stupid enough by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Senate GOP Launches Inquiry Into Facebook's News Curation

    I can't imagine what laws the GOP thinks Facebook has broken. You wonder how anyone could have made Congress even less popular than it was under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, but somehow Republicans have managed to leverage rank stupidity like this to accomplish that feat.

    Will the GOP congress propose that there be equal-time rules for websites? Is there a floor beneath which the GOP will not sink? Stay tuned. The convention is still months away.

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  20. So this by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    So are you suggesting the government should decide which stories are true and which are false and potentially punish anyone publishing things it decides is false?

    That's exactly what the courts do today. Decide the truth of matters. Do you suggest we should eliminate the court system, and leave the decisions of guilt, innocence, and punishment to private entities?

    No doubt the courts are quite corrupt, however, there is some ability for oversight. This is considerably less true for private entities.

    I, for one, would not mind if a news organization was required to only print factual matter, rather than speculation and opinion. I see no reason that the opinion of a newspaper editor or reporter has any more validity than that of my neighbor, and the circulation of the media ensures that said opinion has considerably more impact, which I consider both unfair and unjustified, and obviously so.

    Facts, and nothing but the facts -- that'd be very nice indeed.

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    1. Re: So this by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

      "OJ did it" -- That's called soft news, by the way.

      No, that's unsubstantiated opinion, worthy of rattling around in your head and nothing else. Gossip. Exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Not news in any form or fashion. Entertainment? Sure. If you're a lowlife. Otherwise, no, just purest garbage.

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  21. There used to be a little thing called... by rnturn · · Score: 2

    ... The Fairness Doctrine.

    Ever since the Reagan administration stopped enforcing it the idea of equal time for opposing viewpoints has been a joke. Watch the Sunday morning talking head shows; it's one Republican ideologue after another. The only alternative is a whole panel full of right-wing nut jobs shouting down the lone centrist or liberal panelist. Read the OpEd page of pretty much every newspaper in the U.S. It's the same diet of right-wing talking points. Now that the Republicans find themselves on the other side of that situation, it becomes something that requires Congressional hearings. Facebook needs to loudly and publicly remind them of this thing called the First Amendment and tell them to get stuffed.

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