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'Technology Will Replace the Need For Big Government' (vice.com)

New submitter axlash writes: There's a lot of dissatisfaction with governments today, as can be seen by the rise of left-wing parties in Europe, to the rise of non-mainstream political candidates in America. Well, here's a thought -- with all the talk of technology replacing jobs, why not have it replace governments, too? The speculates about how "in the near future, the government might dramatically shrink -- not because of demands by fiscally astute Americans, but because of radical technology." It goes on: "Even the US President could one day be replaced, which -- strangely enough -- might bring sanity to our election process." The main thrust of the article is essentially about how government jobs will be replaced with technology, although it doesn't say much about whether there'll be technology administering this technology.

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  1. Millennials don't watch enough old sci-fi by Etcetera · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... That's seriously the only reason I can think of why someone would think that putting technology into an oversight role over humanity is a good thing.

    A generation raised on YouTube and Google algorithms and that doesn't seem to value freedom of expression or thought also doesn't understand why humans, process, and procedural protections are necessary. In turn, that makes things less efficient than they theoretically could be, but a technocratic Orwellian state as envisioned by dipshit solutionists will eventually come to the conclusion that life would be a lot more efficient if you just get rid of humans altogether.

    I'm honestly a bit confused how people don't see this. Did they not see T2 growing up? Did they not watch any dystopian 70's sci-fi? Have they never heard of The Twilight Zone and its continual reminders about how hubris catches up with people? What is it?

    1. Re:Millennials don't watch enough old sci-fi by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ... That's seriously the only reason I can think of why someone would think that putting technology into an oversight role over humanity is a good thing. A technocratic Orwellian state as envisioned by dipshit solutionists will eventually come to the conclusion that life would be a lot more efficient if you just get rid of humans altogether.

      Sure, unless it's one of those conscientious AIs that just straps everybody into an orgasm machine and calls it a day.

      But in any event, the more likely scenario is that some small cabal of humans will take over, and simply tell all the plebians that there's a benevolent AI in charge. In reality, it'll just be the governing elite doing what governing elites always do: living it up on the backs of us chumps.

      I'm honestly a bit confused how people don't see this. Did they not see T2 growing up? Did they not watch any dystopian 70's sci-fi? Have they never heard of The Twilight Zone and its continual reminders about how hubris catches up with people? What is it?

      They either don't concede that putting an AI in charge is necessarily bad for humanity ("_Terminator_ is just a movie, real AI researchers know better"), or they don't concede the possibility of artificial intelligence at all ("It's impossible for a machine to possess 'true' intelligence, because the Bible/some pop philosopher told me so").

    2. Re:Millennials don't watch enough old sci-fi by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who gets to train the AI?

      I had you at "orgasm machine", didn't I?

  2. We NEED big government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Big government spends so much time fighting with itself that not much gets done. A smaller more efficient government will screw the people a lot faster.

  3. Re:Been done by Asimov by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Show of hands: Anyone want to actually live in the worlds depicted in those two books? I sure don't.

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  4. Begging the question... by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Technology Will Replace the .... Big Government'

    This implies, there ever was a real need for Big Government in the first place...

    There sure were problems, which the government solved, however, (quite) arguably, these solutions introduced worse problems of their own...

    Libertarians continue to argue — with show of reason — that government's role ought to be confined to keeping the enemies away without and crime at bay within the borders...

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  5. I'm not seeing it... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There seems to be a fundamental misconception behind this story: namely that 'big' refers to number of employees; rather than size of role.

    It's obvious to the point of trivial that certain technological advances will reduce the number of people required to do a given job; but that doesn't change whether or not the job is considered to be within the state's mandate or whether it is a private sector matter.

    That's what size-of-government fights are really about(sure, there's some skirmishing about shrinking or expanding specific workforces to either save money or address a perceived deficiency in service): "What should the government do? What should it not do? What is acceptable to contract out? What is best handled internally?"

    Given that technology has tended to result in labor savings, I'd certainly expect a lower headcount in government in the future; but that's irrelevant to whether it is 'big' or not. Running a welfare state, say, would probably be more efficient if you could just have a single AI do it; but it'd be just as much a 'big government' proposal, just one with fewer people pushing paper around.

  6. Technology will replace big government? by khz6955 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    translation: Our new feudalism corporate overlords would like us to dismantle what's left of our governments, the only thing left that could reign in their power. What is this pro corporate propaganda waffle doing on a tech site?

  7. No need for "oversight role" by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The whole problem is the notion that people need an "oversight role", which in fact they do not.

    What technology enables is the ability for local regions to function in a decentralized manner without need for "oversight" or "central planning".

    It's not about REPLACING human oversight, but dismantling it.

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