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Google Devs Planning Flash's Demise With New 'HTML5 By Default' Chrome Setting (softpedia.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Softpedia: In a Google Groups thread named "Intent to implement: HTML5 by Default," the Google developers announced initial plans to implement a new feature in the Chromium core that will disable the playback of Flash content by default, and use HTML5 instead, if available. The feature is scheduled to ship with Chromium builds in Q4 2016, according to the current timeline. To avoid "overprompting," a whitelist will allow ten major websites to continue to show Flash content by default without pestering users with "Allow domain.com to run Flash Player" prompts. The whitelist will be in effect one year only. The list includes the domains of YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, VK, Live, Yandex, OK.ru, Twitch, Amazon, and Mail.ru, the biggest sites running Flash content today. Previews of the settings and prompts UI are also available.
by not improving YouTube.
It was great 10-15 years ago but now that HTML5 is largely supported by all modern browsers we can finally say good bye to the CPU heavy / security flawed plug-in known as Flash.
How about they implement blocking autorun of all videos by default unless you whitelist a site. There are really only a couple of video sites in the world that I ever want to have a video run without my intervention.
No, I don't want your video ad (especially with sound). No, I don't want the trailer of your movie or game appearing as the banner on top of every page on your site. No, I don't want an autoplaying video to accompany the perfectly good text version of your news article that just says exactly the same thing.
Does this mean Google is committed to killing Flash on YouTube this next year?
Second class citizen of the New Gilded Age
Are they going to bring it over to the jointer after that?
Every single "enterprise class" web service (e.g. HR, payroll, health care, etc.) will be still insist on flash for the next 20 years.
is it will just use html 5 if it can hardly killing flash. devs love flash becouse they can fill it with ads something they cant do with html 5.
FTFY
Because the only place Flash exists on my computer nowadays is inside of Chrome. It's not my usual browser - I use it for those few sites I visit which still rely on Flash. Google keeps Flash and Chrome updated together, so I don't have to keep updating it separately every few days whenever yet another critical Flash vulnerability appears.
#DeleteChrome
You want a radar map in motion to see if the sky is coming to kill you? YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLASH.
Wow catching up with what IOS did in 2007
Why would it be illegal for them to make a browser that works well with their site? 90% of mobile apps are browsers configured to work with only one site. Are most mobile apps illegal?
You mentioned that a lot of people use Chrome, are you thinking of monopoly laws? A monopoly is when one company is the only company providing a product. That would be of Chrome was the only browser, if the user had no other choice.
In fact, according to your link Chrome has 41% market share. Other sources say less, but anyway that's nowhere near 100%. You can't use any browser other than Chrome? MOST people use some other browser.
That tips the scale towards "Not evil".
good. adios lame, stupid vsphere flash ui.
"... domains of YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, VK, Live, Yandex, OK.ru, Twitch, Amazon, and Mail.ru, the biggest sites running Flash content today"
really?
some of them, yes. but biggest sites using flash are big porn sites.
Didn't people stop using Chrome after the WebRTC privacy debacle?
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As chromium does not package pepper flash and google is too arrogant to use npapi plugins anymore.
No problem. And from the named sites ... amazon needs flash? youtube? Search engines like yahoo and yandex?
No. They work without it pretty well.
No more Flash on any of my computers. Buh Bye. "Please install..." Nope. Not happening. It's already gone.
It makes no sense to white-list YouTube when Google should be making YouTube send HTML5 video to any recent-enough-to-support-HTML5-video version of Chromium anyway.
I hate audio and video auto playing and auto looping. At least with flash there are a number of add-ons that work and block the damned thing. HTML5 video is not as easily blocked. As the advetisers and clickbaiters figure out more creative ways to be annoying, I'm wondering what the state of the art is in blocking unwanted audio, video, autoplay, autoloop etc?
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Why haven't new games been written in HTML5 instead of Flash? And why haven't old games been ported from HTML5 to Flash? I imagine that the ability to extract more revenue from advertisers by showing ads to users of phones and tablets would be reason enough to port games. Or are these the kinds of games that doesn't translate well to the no-hover, no-keyboard, fat-finger input model of phones and tablets?
How about they implement blocking autorun of all videos by default unless you whitelist a site.
Settings > Advanced Settings > Privacy | Content Settings button -> Plugins: "Let me choose when to run plugin content".
Does this or any other setting of Chrome block automatic playback of non-plugin video content, especially <video> elements in HTML?
So yes, for a naive user who doesn't know anything, then not doing anything in parallel is best: just do what the user is currently looking at. But this attitude that "everyone is stupid" is terribly dismissive and very unfair.
Unfair to whom? The business reality is that time is money, and naive users outnumber aware users to such an extent that a business will earn more money by just not spending time on accommodating aware users than by implementing measures to retain aware users. I know many of us don't want to hear it, but as C____C____ and other regulars have repeated over the years, Slashdot's core demographic is a minority and an edge case.
google wants to kill off adobe yet needs it to gather up ad money
cunts
block flash on youtube, the video is html5 and will play fine
So now my computer can enjoy 100% cpu usage because the GPU is unsupported by Chrome/Firefox. Why? Because they felt like it and refused to fix it. Glad they'll be buying me a new video card or motherboard, oh wait.
That and Newgrounds. How much of Newgrounds has been remade in HTML5+JS+Canvas, if any? Rendering a Flash vector animation to MP4 bloats it by a factor of about ten in my tests.
The reason people who churn out flash games don't switch to html5 is that they don't know how and don't want to learn. If there was a wealth of second world labor trained on one standardized authoring tool for html5 it would explode. But you still wouldn't see all the old flash games get ported. Those will soon be lost to pixel rot.
This comment is fully compliant with RFC 527.
I've seen how Digital Media is taught at universities. Many times the flash games are written using a design tool that allows higher levels of abstraction, and/or zero actual knowledge of programming. These "visual coding" tools typically allow for html5 export at the push of a button, but it's 2016 and the professors still expect flash! This also means if they learn any coding it's going to be flash.
Basically, it's like how universities took forever to switch languages in introduction to coding courses. Modern digital media is sort of a conglomeration of coding, web development, marketing, art, 3d design, and animation. The problem is, when they want a student to learn art, they have them take an art class. When they want them to do 3d printing or coding they DO NOT have them take the appropriate 'introduction to programming' or 3d engineering class. They make their own! The department doesn't consider knowledge of basic programming logic to be important, just like knowledge of material science and tooling doesn't seem to be important when working with physical objects...
So lets pretend that we've just completed writing this code, as opposed to having just completed sabotaging it -Altera
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Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/antivirus + less security issues/complexity. Compliments firewalls (w/ layered drivers blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lighten dns load). Gets data via 10 security sites.
Ads rob bandwidth/speed paid for, security (openbid adnetworks abuse), privacy in tracking + anonymity.
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Works vs. caps & HTTP PUSH ads w/ firewalls.
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APK
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Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/antivirus + less security issues/complexity. Compliments firewalls (w/ layered drivers blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lighten dns load). Gets data via 10 security sites.
Ads rob bandwidth/speed paid for, security (openbid adnetworks abuse), privacy in tracking + anonymity.
Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogtrackers) natively. Hosts != blockable by ClarityRay (like. souled-out to admen inferior wasteful redundant slower usermode browser addons)
Works vs. caps & HTTP PUSH ads w/ firewalls.
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APK
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> Are you new here or do you legitimately not remember the IE browser tying issues?
Windows had over 90% market share measured at the consumer, and there was exactly ONE significant OEM who wasn't tied to a Windows contract. "Every computer company except one must follow our rules" sounds a lot like a monopoly.
Again, MOST people do not use Chrome. A monopoly is "all, or almost all".
> without (realistic) chance of competition.
Given that Chrome has less than half the market, there's pretty clearly not only a chance of competition, but actual competition.
> what other browser doesn't take up space in your Android device's read-only operating system partition?
The default browser on all of my Android devices is called Browser. Chrome is an add-on.
ALL browsers other than whatever the OEM chooses to install "don't take up space in your Android device's read-only operating system partition". Every other browser can be installed on either your 16GB SD card or built-in flash storage. Only the OEM default applications have the DRAWBACK of taking up space on the read-only partition.
Where both Flash and Java belong. When you need a VM, use a suitable VM technology - neither Flash nor Java will ever be secure enough. They do, however, both make excellent virus vectors.
Organization? You must be joking..
Google is the most anti competitive company in the world. I can't wait until someone like Trump dismantles this company who ruins businesses based on their market position.
So then, would this make HTML5 "The Reverse Flash" or "Zoom"?
Why haven't new games been written in HTML5 instead of Flash?
They have. Here are some.
And why haven't old games been ported from HTML5 to Flash?
Because Flash is a dying platform, silly. No one's going to port from HTML5 to Flash.
[rant on] It strikes me that Google hires probably the brightest minds and do not grasp basics of IT: different people have different needs!
While it is acceptable to start restricting an securing web browser by disabling some features and external plugins for general public, it is quite unacceptable NOT to leave any option but not to upgrade for specialized use. I still did not get over NPAPI deprecation. Companies like mine have built specialized solutions around plugins and/or flash and with Google ecosystem (and with Apple one) we have NO choice.
As they represents a sizeable chunk of the market. It's a PROBLEM.
We had to basically rebuild our own web browser with NPAPI support to continue our business.
https://github.com/operationiv... (for those interested)
I can imagine how flash based solutions companies are thrilled about this announcement. And then - the question: what is the procedure to make it into the 'whitelist'. Google is turning into nanny state organization. Seems that they upgraded their motto as well
'Don't do evil' -> 'We do you good (even against your wish)
At least, the reviled Microsoft is doing a fine job ensuing good compatibility with their decade old WIn32 API. The perfect example is ActiveX support that has been removed from WIn10 / EDGE browser. But Win10 ships with Internet Explorer that HAS kept the active X support.
I can here teams of young (male virgin?) bright devs shrieking and getting excited by the newest JS bla bla framework and sighting when having to support legacy code. What a turn off for them !
But ....
To me, plugins where not only 'small add-ons'. They represented a web compound documents model, open toward other technologies.
Pure HTML5 is a 'la pensée unique', 'there is no alternative' way.
It reflects in the code how insecure people feel about 'foreign' things more generally and it is sad.
[/rant finished]
No one's going to port from HTML5 to Flash.
My fault. The title was correct; the body was not. Let me correct myself: Why don't more old Flash games get officially ported to HTML5?
So make it an HTML5 animation.
Which tools are any good for creating an HTML5 animation? For Flash, one can buy a used copy of Flash CS. But for HTML5, it appears one must buy Adobe Animate, and then because of the Creative Cloud pricing model, buy it again every month.
Flash is a proprietary platform and as such is subject to the proprietor's whims.
Which non-proprietary platform that existed when Flash was popular should web animators have used instead of Flash?
The default browser on all of my Android devices is called Browser. Chrome is an add-on.
ALL browsers other than whatever the OEM chooses to install "don't take up space in your Android device's read-only operating system partition".
I was under the impression that since sometime in the Android 4.x series, all phones and tablets that ship with Google Play Store treated Chrome as an OEM default application. Or do you have a habit of switching each of your Android devices to a customized ROM without Gapps once the warranty expires?
Yet they're valuable enough to sue someone who finds them valuable and for that reason ports them without permission.