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Snapchat Faces An Outcry Against 'Whitewashing' Filters (mashable.com)

Last month Snapchat was thrown under the bus for a feature that many found downright racist. The photo-sharing app had added a face-altering filter that made users look like Bob Marley. Less than a month to it, Snapchat is getting blasted over another controversial feature. Several users are reporting about a "whitewash" filter that aims to "beautify" their looks. Mashable reports: Users of the app have noticed that many of the face-altering filters "whitewash." Upset Snapchatters point to the flower crown filter and the beautifying filter, both of which seem to lighten skin and eyes and contour the face to make one's chin and nose appear smaller. Since the debut, and subsequent popularity, of the Coachella-inspired filter, Snapchat users have taken to forums to voice their disproval with the app.

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  1. News for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    stuff that doesn't matter

    1. Re:News for nerds by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you aren't interested, scroll down to the next story. Why take offence?

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    2. Re:News for nerds by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3

      Came in to say just that.

      I find myself reading this site less and less these days.

      Stop posting, and we'll al be happy.

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    3. Re:News for nerds by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SJW-interest stories belong on Reddit, not Slashdot. You're a rare member of the intersection of the Venn diagrams.

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    4. Re:News for nerds by Pfhorrest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These threads are nothing but excuses for flamewars, and invite all the retards from both sides of the spectrum, posters and mods alike, to stir up a goddamn shitstorm. In this thread, the reactionary-tards seem to be winning.

      So fuck all your mothers' cunts with a rusty cactus and then kill yourselves you worthless goddamn niggerfaggots.

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    5. Re:News for nerds by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because these stories get a little out of hand.

      You know, /. used to be a hangout for geeks. Geeks, ya know? The people whose social life could be summed up with "friends? Yeah, I have like 20. Yes, on Facebook, why, there's other ways?"

      In other words, "social" issues don't bother us. It's not that we don't give a shit about humans, ok, that too, but that's not the reason. The reason is that most of us simply don't get the whole "he's black, he's white, let's make a huge difference bullshit bingo out of it" thing. I can neither see your skin color or your gender online, and whether you're straight or gay might at best matter to those that are into online sexting. And I'm fairly sure they don't really care about that either as long as they get their rocks off.

      In come SJWs and pretend like we have to take up a position in their "fight". No, we don't. I am still on my "don't give a shit" position and I have a really hard time seeing why the fuck I should bother moving away from it. I have no stake in that fight. It's as much a concern as whether some celebrity marries some other celebrity. Doesn't affect me, don't care.

      I might care if it was in any way interesting. Like, say, a new self driving car. I probably won't buy one, but at least it's interesting from a technological point of view. Li'l Kim building rockets in Korea, that's maybe a fringe thing because rockets are cool, and it's fun to see idiots pissing their pants because they can't understand that it takes LOTS more than the ability to lob these things somehow into the air to actually carry out a ICBM strike.

      But this? Really? Explain to me how this is interesting. The whitewashing filters themselves are maybe, but the "outcry" around them simply isn't.

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    6. Re:News for nerds by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because these stories get a little out of hand.

      From your reaction, I'd say it's the anti-SJWs that have gotten out of hand. Look at exactly what this story is about. Okay the summary is the usual Slashdot clickbait with slightly inflammatory language, what else is new? But look at the actual story.

      It's not someone telling you that you must take a position, or even claiming that there is some overt racism here. It's just pointing out that, like filters which automatically airbrush images to make people look unnaturally thin there are social problems created by airbrushing people's skin lighter.

      As nerds, as the people who often create these systems, don't you think it's relevant? If not, well, okay, scroll on. I'm not that interested in some of dinosaur stories or the Ubuntu release stories, but I don't interpret them as trying to force me to care or switch to Linux or whatever.

      We are living the dream where technology is part of every day life, but that means that technology is no longer neutral. Imagine you built a Star Trek replicator. In the lab it's neutral, but once in people's hands you might argue there is some moral responsibility to design it so it can't be used to manufacture anthrax.

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    7. Re:News for nerds by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Technology has by definition no morals. Dynamite can be used to connect towns in valleys separated by mountains by blasting a hole into said mountain, or it can be used by either town to blow the other one up. Rockets can be used to enable us to reach other planets or they can deliver material to destroy the one we are on now.

      That may or may not concern you, and you may certainly wish to discuss the aspect of their use for good or ill on a board that deals with social ramifications of technology, but I am not so sure they fit in here. Or would you consider the discussion about whether one, two or three staged rockets are best used to deliver a 2 megaton payload is something you'd want discussed on a board dealing with social or political issues? It would simply be off topic. By quite a margin.

      And while the social implications of technology may even at times be something that could pop up in a discussion about the technology itself, this is not what happens here. This whole thread is about how some technology affects ... no, wait, it ain't even that. It's how some people complain about how some technology (which is named in the article but could be replaced by anything, because the technology itself is absolutely irrelevant in the whole article here) makes people upset who could easily choose not to be affected by it.

      And, again, there is not even any discussion of the technology itself going on. We're not talking about how this works, or what technological impact this could have, on future technology, maybe how it could affect technology itself and other technologies. We're not talking about whether it's possible to detect the use of such technology by automated means. We're, in a nutshell, not talking about the technology AT ALL, whatsoever.

      The whole thread is about the social impact, no, not even that, the perceived impact, the feeling the technology causes in some people.

      And sorry, feelings are something I wouldn't really call "news for nerds".

      Not by a long shot.

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    8. Re:News for nerds by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I have emotions, of course. I also have a rather healthy digestion, but that doesn't mean I discuss the content of my most recent bowel movement on a page that allegedly deals with development in technology.

      Then again, discussing the latest Linux distribution might not be very suitable for a discussion board about nutrition and whether your fiber intake is sufficient.

      I hope you finally understand.

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    9. Re:News for nerds by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is just semantics now. You point out that dynamite can be used for social good or social bad. Well, I agree that the technology itself has no morals, but clearly a large part of being an engineer is considering how technology is used. You mentioned driverless cars before, well much of the debate about them is around things like liability, how other drivers will react, how they will change the way we live, the social impact.

      This whole thread is about how some technology affects ... no, wait, it ain't even that.

      It should be that, that's what TFA is about. It's just been derailed by people out to derail discussion of things they don't like. We used to call that trolling. Just to be absolutely clear, I'm NOT accusing you of trolling.

      We're not talking about how this works, or what technological impact this could have, on future technology, maybe how it could affect technology itself and other technologies.

      We should be. Auto-photoshopping is a feature of many modern devices. Google has auto-awesome that airbrushes your skin, Apple's camera app heavily processes images to look better. But at some point it gets problematic... How hard should the software try to remove every skin blemish, to adjust lighting to make you look thinner, airbrush out that double chin? Soon it will reach the stage where every shot will look like something out of a magazine.

      Clearly these apps do a lot of good too. They compensate for poor cameras, Google can composite images so you end up with one where everyone is smiling etc.

      Another good example is those HP webcams that couldn't track black faces. Lighter skin was fine, but anyone with very dark skin was invisible to it. That's a pure tech problem, but unfortunately it got cast as "racism" (I suppose maybe some institutional racism, as in there weren't any really dark people on the testing team), which is quite unhelpful.

      And sorry, feelings are something I wouldn't really call "news for nerds".

      Psychology though? I know it's the joke science where nothing is repeatable, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful or worth considering.

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  2. oh for fucks sake by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    really??? if you dont like a filter.... dont use it!!! What is so complicated here?

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    1. Re:oh for fucks sake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Admit it, you never touched ganja in your life; you are just an FBI troll who makes these posts to make it appear that marijuana is linked to shitposting.

    2. Re:oh for fucks sake by geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is the generation of "perpetually offended"..............

    3. Re:oh for fucks sake by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the filter adds flowers to ones head and makes it seem as if they are outside, making it brighter, and therefore whiter....

      no this is just a bunch of perpetually offended morons who would do us all a huge favor if they all got hit by a bus

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    4. Re:oh for fucks sake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh shut the fuck up.
      Asians have always been obsessed with white skin.
      To them having dark skin is traditionally a sign that you are a poor field peasant working in the fields.
      Nothing to do with so called western beauty standards.
      People jump to the conclusion that this is some kind of conspiracy by white people at every opportunity.

    5. Re:oh for fucks sake by epyT-R · · Score: 2

      Yes, and justifying censorship and totalitarian law over their butthurt feelings. In a sense, they are killing our lawns with their acidic urine.

    6. Re:oh for fucks sake by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2

      And here's another name for them: intolerant moral authoritarians, which I think better reflects the inevitable end-game of their offendedness and demands for the world and its dog to comply with their 'values'.

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    7. Re:oh for fucks sake by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Why, Office is absolutely progressive! It's black in the foreground and white in the background.

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  3. No one cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No one cares. This affects nobody in a substantial way. It's just a bunch of whiny SJWs.

  4. These people need jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lately it seems there are entirely too many people with entirely too much free time to sit around being offended by the most insignificant and banal shit. Don't these people work, or have anything else better to do with their time?

  5. SJW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey everybody it's Social Justice Wednesday!

    Reply to this thread if you genuinely give a fuck about Snapchat's filters and believe this topic belongs on Slashdot.

  6. Racist anti-racists by joboss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is nothing racist about this at all. The people who are prone to things such as racism are the very same people who equate this to racism using the same fallacies and poor thinking that themselves gave rise and continue to give rise to real racism. You have to be careful with sensitivity. There's being insensitive and being too sensitive. These whiners fall into the latter category. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them and get on with their lives. As everyone else has the common sense to say, if they don't like this feature, they don't have to use it.

  7. Re:What a pussy by SecurityGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Learning how to handle assholes is part of being a normal adult.

    True, but then again, so is learning how to post your comment under the right story.

  8. Re:Brightness sliders by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not that there's a brightness filter, but that the "light" side is labeled "beautiful" and the other side is "dirty Nigger". The slider is fine. The labels are overtly racist.

  9. Oh, I think it's useful by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...to identify people I hope I never have to talk to.

    From TFA:
    "The whitewashing snapchat filters are making me internalise Eurocentric beauty standards(I've avoided doing this until now)&it needs to STOP"

    Please Lord, let me never meet this person.

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  10. Re:remember when by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no...that wasnt racist either. can we just stop with the labeling of everything as racist? it has literally made the word useless

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  11. It's the Michael Jackson app by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who knew he was a developer?

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  12. Just lighter by CauseBy · · Score: 2

    I looked at all the side-by-side comparisons I could find on that page and to me it looks like simple color correction. People were taking a bunch of dark photos and the filter corrected them to be medium lightness. It didn't lighten their skin; it lightened the entire photo which their skin is part of. Look at the first example, she has dark hair which is completely washed-out black in the original, with no detail visible, and then in the filtered version you can see some more detail because they lightened the colors.

    I'd like to see someone take a photo, do color correction first, then run it through this filter. Does it pick out brown skin tones and turn them whiter? I doubt it but if so then that might be a little bit offensive.

  13. Science is the Debil! by s.petry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let us remove all the emotional crap about beauty "standards" and replace them with what they are. Biological triggers for reproduction. Symmetric features, healthy body shape, healthy hair, healthy smell, and yes healthy skin (1) are all measures we have evolved with to find mates we will most likely succeed in having healthy children with.

    1. Healthy skin is not just color, though it is much easier to see poor health on lighter skin. Oily skin, acne, blotchy skin, ringworm, ticks, etc... etc... are all signs of unhealthy skin. Claiming color is the only factor ignores reality, and has become a false narrative for these SJW (Cultural Marxist) movements.

    Claiming we should ignore a person's health when choosing a mate is akin to saying the thing we mate with makes no difference, and the gender makes no difference, and the age makes no difference (who needs puberty right SJWs?) Interestingly the same thing these people tell you does not matter when it comes to using private spaces like rest rooms.

    If you want to build a bullshit narrative to promote your communist beliefs at least have the audacity to use facts to do so.

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  14. I'm tired of this attitude by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2

    Rather than:

    "I'm offended by this! So I just won't use it."

    People are all...

    "I'm offended by this! IT MUST BE BANNED!"

    If this keeps catching on, it'll be like Chinese censorship in no time.

  15. Dear special snowflakes. by Chas · · Score: 2

    Fuck you. Your "feels" don't fucking matter in the real world.

    Please learn this as quickly as possible so you can stop being a festering boil on the ass of society and can start contributing something to humanity other than childish bitching and moaning (we're more than full up on that).

    You're not a victim (you're just an every-day asshole). So stop trying to seize victimhood as a status symbol.

    If you don't, you're going to be mocked, mercilessly, for the rest of your existence.
    (Oh, and did we mention that we sell razors? Down the road, not across the tracks!)

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  16. Fuckwit asshat moron shitstain by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2, Informative

    Holy fuck this thread is full of retarded mods, otherwise you've got some kind of sockpuppet army.

    I don't even know where the fuck to begin with how full of shit you are.

    There are genetic, biological differences between peoples, obviously. But they do not divide nearly into the racial categories we, or any other society, think in terms of. Where to draw the lines between which groups of people with what genetic differences is entirely a social matter that doesn't line up at all with where the biology would suggest them; there are greater genetic differences between people within Africa (who would all be called one "race" by our modern construction thereof) than between peoples living on opposite sides of the world outside of Africa.

    So if people within India decide to divide up their people into several peoples (castes are inherited, so its your genetic ancestry that matters) and discriminate between them, that is every fucking bit the same exact thing as any kind of racial discrimination, just under a different name. Pull your goddamn head out of your ass and try cracking one of those biology textbooks you preach about for a try.

    And I don't know why the fuck you bring gender into this, you neanderthaloid asshat, but you're wrong there too, 100%. The thing you're talking about is sex, not gender. And yes, sex is biological, but not entirely genetic; there are biological females with XY chromosomes and androgen insensitivity that makes them develop as females nevertheless; and in many other ways, it doesn't divide at neatly into the social categories that you want it to, fuckwit, and shitstains like you are the ones imposing artificial social constructs in bald ignorance of biological fact. Again, read a fucking book yourself. And you question the world instead of swallowing whatever comforting lies the people you grew up with told you.

    And what the fuck does a math class have to do with any of this, you cuntfaced cockhole?

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