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Hacker Phineas Fisher is Trying To Start a 'Hack Back' Political Movement (vice.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The hacker who breached Hacking Team and FinFisher is trying to get more people to "hack back" and fight "the system." For some, thanks to his targeted attacks and sophisticated political views, Phineas Fisher is quickly becoming the most influential hacktivist of the last few years. In response to his most recent hack where he released a 39-minute how-to video showing how to strip data from targeted websites, specifically a website of the Catalan police union, Phineas Fisher told Motherboard, "Everything doesn't have to be big. I wanted to strike a small blow at the system, teach a bit of hacking with the video, and inspire people to take action." Biella Coleman, professor at McGill University in Montreal, believes Phineas Fisher has a good chance of inspiring a new generation of hacktivists and "setting the stage for other hackers to follow in his footsteps." She says he has been better at choosing targets and justifying his actions with more rounded and sophisticated political and ethical views than Anonymous and LulzSec-inspired hackers. Phineas Fisher told Motherboard, "I don't want to be the lone hacker fighting the system. I want to inspire others to take similar action, and try to provide the information so they can learn how."

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  1. example of his "sophisticated political views"? by sittingnut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how about an example of his "sophisticated political views"?
    or is that an euphemism for whatever views writer of this puff piece holds?

    any real "sophisticated political view" would be nuanced and will not have a binary view of society and groups in it.
    but without binary views and resulting simplistic us versus them mentality, there wont be any "targets" to "attack" using illegal methods.

    1. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

      how about an example of his "sophisticated political views"?

      His views are so sophisticated that if you have to ask about them, you'll never understand them. Because, sophistication.

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    2. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by SQL+Error · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He's an anarchist. Which these days means an emo kid with internet access.

    3. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      I wonder how many internet SJW's would fight for their brand of "social justice" if they had to lay it on the line and do it in person.

    4. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by tigersha · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are an old-timer and would never understand the fine subtle mind of a modern-day Millennial Hipster

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    5. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about you read the guys writing. He is very clear about his reasoning and it really is not hard to follow. I'm proud of this guy regardless of what americans think, americans are afraid of their own shadow. I'm european and I hope more europeans (assuming he's spanish, could be wrong) follow in what he does. I would if I wasn't lazy and a bit shit. My shame is being too much like americans and becoming completely fucking useless, like all americans.

      He is against the overreach of our governments and intelligence services. He is against violent squashing of genuine civil/civic problems within his own society. He is against the balance of power shifting too far away from the peoples of the world and giving more [centralized] power to corrupt governments. He is against fascism in general.

      He targeted HackingTeam because
      1) Some of the founders are italian fascists (ie. believe in fascist ideology and work in that interest)
      2) They sold technology to severely dangerous governments and groups that use that technology to keep their boot on peoples faces.

      He gives reasons for his more recent stuff (copy & paste):
      More about the Mossos: A brief description in english of the events of 4F, when mossos badly beat and tortured several people and sent a couple people to prison for years on false charges: https://theanarchistlibrary.or...

      A documentary on 4F (catalan and spanish with english subtitles), and Patricia Heras, who spent years in prison on false charges and committed suicide. She was on the other side of the city at the time of the events of 4F, but got in a bike accident and went to the hospital. The mossos took the people they tortured on 4F to the same hospital, saw her there, decided she also looked like a squatter, and made up some stuff to charge her with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      An interview (in english, with spanish and catalan subtitles) with a guy who was badly tortured and jailed on false charges after defending a friend from mossos (who weren't in uniform and didn't identify themselves as police) who were harassing her at a nightclub. In a rare victory (he was the son of a diplomat, so had the resources to fight back) the false charges against him were overturned and the police who lied and tortured him were sentenced (well, the 2 of them he was able to identify. The rest got away with it because police don't snitch on each other). https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A documentary (catalan with spanish and english subtitles) on a woman who had her eye shot out by mossos attacking a peaceful demonstration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      A long analysis of the political situation in Barcelona and the direction the elites are trying to develop the city. The mossos do the dirty work, harassing and driving out "undesirables" to reshape the city. https://roarmag.org/essays/pre... Mossos beating Juan Andrés BenÃtez to death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      In Spain, freedom of speech doesn't exist, at least when it comes to criticizing the police. The rappers at 9:50 are facing fines and jailtime over their anti-police lyrics: https://www.diagonalperiodico.... (you can't make this shit up) Puppeteers are facing terrorism charges over a play depicting police planting fake evidence to set someone up on terrorism charges: https://roarmag.org/essays/tit...

      You g

    6. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by sabbede · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Okay, that's lousy behavior on the part of apparently corrupt officials. How exactly is anonymous vandalism any better? If his political views are so sophisticated, why isn't he engaging the political process and using valid means to promote said views? Like organizing nonviolent protests, engaging with the electorate, using the democratic process to bring about systemic change?

      Vandalism only discredits his cause. A sophisticated political actor should have the sense to avoid such blunders; these are the acts of an immature fool. Gandhi was no vandal. Martin Luther King Jr. was no vandal. They were brave, sophisticated and wise enough to use the system to correct its injustices. They persuaded others to join them instead of attacking those who disagreed.

    7. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by coofercat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Okay, that's lousy behavior on the part of apparently corrupt officials. How exactly is anonymous vandalism any better? If his political views are so sophisticated, why isn't he engaging the political process and using valid means to promote said views? Like organizing nonviolent protests, engaging with the electorate, using the democratic process to bring about systemic change?

      Hmm... let me see now... because none of those methods work, perhaps?

      Vandalism only discredits his cause.

      Only if you think that way. If you're expecting a nice non-violent protest where everyone picks up their own litter and goes home at the time the police say they should, then of course you're going to think anything other than that is 'discrediting'.

      I'm not going to say 'hactivism' is the Right Thing, but as we saw with the recent Panama leaks, it sure can make changes in the world. In that sense, I'd place it above non-violent protest, which recent history shows does pretty much nothing.

    8. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by Chas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pretty much. Because such "minds" are nearly as sharp as a rubberized butter spreader (so dull you can't even call it a knife).

      Basically all these modern script kiddie hacker activist-wannabes understand is "us and them".

      So long as they perceive themselves as "the underclass", they're "morally" justified in doing pretty much ANYTHING. And, in their own mind, it's "okay", because they're on the side of "Right".
      And if they hurt innocent bystanders? Oh well, to make a omelette... Just so long as THEY are the chef and not the eggs.

      In reality, they're primarily power-tripping pseudofascist assholes who would fail a basic ethics course, because they have none.

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    9. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by PRMan · · Score: 2

      "Recent" history. IE post-2000.

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    10. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by tigersha · · Score: 2

      "Basically all these modern script kiddie hacker activist-wannabes understand is "us and them"."

      Let me correct that for you:

      'Basically all frustrated youths who want to take a shortcut to what they perceive as an unfair world understand is "us and them"'

      Anarchists in the late 19th century? Same story
      French Revolutionaries? Same story
      Bolsheviks? Same story
      Maoists in the 60s (both in China and Europe)? Same story
      Hippies in the 60s? Same story
      French Students going bonkers in 68? Same story (but at least The Searchers made a very sweet film...)
      Baader Meinhof Gang? Red Army Faction? Same story
      Idealistic Greens/Ökos today? Same story
      Young muslims joining ISIS? Same story

      Like Churchill said "If you are 20 and you are not a communist, you don't have a heart. If you are 40 and still a communist you don't have a brain."

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    11. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by Agripa · · Score: 2

      Based on his description of the situation, why would you think any of those things would work?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    12. Re:example of his "sophisticated political views"? by Chas · · Score: 2

      Really?

      Do you even know who their targets are?

      Hell, do you think THEY know?

      In most cases, the answer is "no".

      They see that they're attacking some huge, faceless organization. What they don't always see is the aftermath and the personal costs.

      Take one of these doofuses I helped put away. He was stealing credit card info and making donations to "worthwhile" causes as far as he was concerned.

      Never mind that, when the card companies retracted said donations later on, said charities also got hit by chargeback fees as well...

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  2. Re: example of his "sophisticated political views" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Stripping data" from a website is not a power to be taken lightly.

  3. Re:We need to start with tRump's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    web site and expose his KKK links.

    He has links to Hillary?!?!?

  4. Re: example of his "sophisticated political view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anarchists reject authority. Talibans and Daesh operate under authority. They ain't no anarchists. Black block may qualify although they're mostly left wing useful idiots whose actions are used to justify even more brutal crackdowns on legitimate protests.

  5. Re: We need to start with tRump's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was no evidence Hitler hated women so he is literally worse than Hitler.

    Also, Hitler liked dogs, and was a vegetarian. Trump does not own a dog, and eats animal flesh. He is worse in every way.

  6. Re: example of his "sophisticated political views" by tigersha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gravillo Princip, who started the First, and indirectly the Second World War was an Anarchist. 100 Million dead people later, Europe is still ruled by a government

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  7. Re: We need to start with tRump's... by nyctopterus · · Score: 2

    Yeah, Hitler's attitude to women was great, apart from keeping his niece prisoner and driving her to suicide, that is. Oh and nearly driving Eva Braun to suicide... before her actual suicide.

    And yes, he killed that dog too.

  8. Re: We need to start with tRump's... by tigersha · · Score: 3, Funny

    Match the following two lists:

    a) Lazy, bigoted, racist, got up at 10 or later, drank heavily and smoked cigars like the end of the world was about to come
    b) Ascetic vegetarian, no women, did not drink, did not smoke, lived pretty much like a saint
    c) Womanizer, had several charges of sexual harassment, got government troopers to get him blowjobs, screwed his aides in the office

    a) Adolf Hitler*
    b) Winston Churchill
    c) Bill Clinton**

    See the connection?

    *Ok, admittedly, in the 2000s it became clear that Hitler was bit addicted to painkillers...
    ** To his defense, Monica Lewinsky saw an ad that said "Come to the White House, get a taste of the presidency". She came in the White House and tasted the President. So she needed reading glasses, not her fault!

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  9. Re: example of his "sophisticated political views" by sabbede · · Score: 2

    But nobody has the right to bring about so much death and destruction, or to sacrifice the lives of innocents for a cause. That we made a better world from the ashes of their evil justifies nothing.

  10. Yeah, man! by KermodeBear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, man! *Puff!* Gotta attack the system, man! *Puff!* Like, dude, the system is keeping us all down, like, dude, it's all part of *Puff!* the military industrial complex, man! I'm so, like, sophisticated in my political views, *Puff!* like, dude, you know? It's all about the system and the man, man! This is strong shit! *Puff!*

    The 60s called. It wants its pot smoking hippies back.

    Sorry, Phineas, but someone with "sophisticated" political views doesn't talk about "The System." They talk about specific policies, they talk about history, they talk about context and cause and effect. I respect your abilities to compromise computer systems, but if all you have is "fight the system" then you are not ready, at all, to talk about politics.

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    1. Re:Yeah, man! by mr.mdjohnson · · Score: 3, Informative

      well.... if you actually click the link......under to the video, you would see that there is a ghostbin link with a text file full of links to articles and documentary siting specific things he sees as injustices, like a bibliography. And in his previous post about the HackingTeam hack he had just as many sources linking to specific things that caused him he act on them. Whether you agree with his reasoning is one thing. But he is specific in his intent.

  11. Re: example of his "sophisticated political views" by david_thornley · · Score: 2

    He doesn't get all the credit for starting the First World War. The Great Powers had maneuvered themselves into a situation where almost anything could touch off a war, and some of them were in political situations where backing down in a confrontation seemed more politically dangerous than starting a war.

    Essentially:

    1. Princip killed the Archduke Ferdinand
    2. Germany offered full support to Austria-Hungary
    3. France almost certainly offered full support for Russia
    4. Austria-Hungary issued demands to Serbia that look like they were intended to be unacceptable
    5. Serbia caved in on almost all points
    6. Austria-Hungary declared that the conciliatory response was not acceptable
    7. Russia notified Austria-Hungary that they would go to war if Austria-Hungary attacked Serbia
    8. Germany notified Russia that they would go to war if Russia continued mobilizing against Austria-Hungary
    9. (FWIW, the British were making half-hearted efforts at keeping the peace, and had very little effect on the situation)
    10. France and Germany lobbed threats at each other, although this didn't matter all that much because the German plan in case of war with Russia was to invade Belgium and attack France
    11. When Germany invaded Belgium, Britain delivered an ultimatum, and Italy started looking for ways of profiting from the situation

    Overall, I'd rate Princip's contribution as significantly less than the Austro-Hungarian, Russian, and German contributions.

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