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The Pirate Bay Sails Back To Its .ORG Domain (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Following a report that the Swedish Court would seize the domain names 'ThePirateBay.se' and 'PirateBay.se,' The Pirate Bay is now sailing back to where it started in 2003, ThePirateBay.org. CNET reports: "The site is currently redirecting all traffic from the above two domains back to its .org home." In 2012, The Pirate Bay moved to the .se domain. It then moved to more secure domains, such as .sx and .ac, eventually returning to .se in 2015. Every alternative domain the site was using has been seized. Since the registry that manages the top level .org domains is based in Virginia, it's likely we'll see some legal action from the U.S. in response to the move. Meanwhile, Pirate Bay co-founder Fredrik Neij plans to appeal the Swedish's court's decision to seize the .se domains.

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  1. Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it's likely we'll see some legal action from the U.S. in response to the move

    I'm sure the RIAA's lawyer's phones are ringing off the wall now...

  2. corrupt world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every alternative domain the site was using has been seized.

    They aren't doing anything illegal, and certainly there must be some country somewhere that officially recognizes that. If there's not a single one that's pretty damning for the state of freedom in the world.

    1. Re: corrupt world by bursch-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Liechtenstein is under EU jurisdiction, not ideal. Piratebay should declare independence start their own country and get their own top level domain, like piratebay.arrr

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    2. Re: corrupt world by jonwil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not go for a .ag domain name. Antigua and Barbuda has thumbed its nose at the US in regards to protection of copyrighted works (in response to the US refusing to remove its ban on online gambling sites in Antigua and Barbuda) and I dont see them being the sort of country that would be willing to seize a domain name just because the US (or big US media companies) wanted them to.

    3. Re: corrupt world by easyTree · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lol :D

      Argentina? .ar

    4. Re: corrupt world by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Piratebay should declare independence start their own country

      Because, unlike being under EU jurisdiction, having your own independent country precludes any political influence, attack or invasion from the United States.

      Obviously.

    5. Re:corrupt world by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They aren't doing anything illegal, and certainly there must be some country somewhere that officially recognizes that.

      Do you realize that these guys have set up the infrastructure for massive online piracy?

      What they are doing is maybe not technically illegal, but highly unethical.

      It's no wonder that there are entertainment and software tycoons that want to seize the TPB operations.

      Oh, so we want to talk about how this is unethical now? OK, how about we talk about how those entertainment and software tycoons are funneling billions in revenue offshore to avoid paying taxes on it. And as the entertainment and software tycoons continue to rake in billions, tell me again which loophole has the greater impact here across society and government.

      How ironic we attack TPB and yet dismiss the real thieves.

    6. Re:corrupt world by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 2

      TPB is a content distributor.

      TPB doesn't distribute anything. It's just an index. You can play games with terms like "facilitating", but the fact is that TPB does not make or hold copies (authorized or otherwise) of any of the files listed on the site. TPB doesn't even say who is providing the content—that role falls to the peer-to-peer DHT system. The only things you can get from TPB itself are a list of files, some commentary and statistics, and a hash which uniquely identifies the content. None of this information infringes on anyone's copyrights.

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  3. Re:How Dare They Host Links to Zero's & One's by fisted · · Score: 2

    Zero's and One's what?

  4. What by SeattleLawGuy · · Score: 2

    I'm in favor of major copyright reform, but let's not stick our heads in the sand. The copyright law needs to change, but the pirate bay is violating it. The pirate bay is *designed* to facilitate the illegal copying of copy-protected works. They are trying to get around being criminally liable by not storing the files themselves, basically turning themselves into a search engine of Illegally copied works.

    It turns out judges are not morons. And the law can punish people even if they don't hold a copied file on their own machine. Just like it can prosecute someone even if they just hand a wrench to a co-conspirator in a murder case.

    As to freedom, yes, there are limits on your freedom in order to protect the economic well-being of others. And there should be--that's why society works. Those limits are in the wrong places, and we should fix them. But in the meantime, the law shouldn't be ignored, because when de facto laws and de jure laws differ, it gives more power to government and takes away freedom. Realize that for every day the pirate bay is running, the intelligence services of the world gather data on many thousands of people who can be prosecuted or blackmailed at will--and they have another vector through which to transfer malicious code in the meantime.

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    1. Re:What by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem is, copyright was made to protect the authors and their works. They get to control who can have a copy, the terms, etc. However, that control was supposed to be for a limited time (I think it was 20 years) but that period has been extended to ludicrous lengths.

      In exchange for that extended protection, the authors/publishers should be obligated to sell their work in all countries, including dubs and/or subs for the official languages of the countries. If they can't, then no copyright for you! NEXT!

      There should also be penalties for selling low-quality versions of their works, such as only selling a 4:3 version of a movie if the theatrical release was 16:9.

    2. Re:What by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Informative

      > copyright was made to protect the publishers

      You need to re-read the history of copyright.

      "The history of copyright law starts with early privileges and monopolies granted to printers of books. The British Statute of Anne 1710, full title "An Act for the Encouragement of Learning, by vesting the Copies of Printed Books in the Authors or purchasers of such Copies, during the Times therein mentioned", was the first copyright statute. Initially copyright law only applied to the copying of books."

      and

      "Pope Alexander VI issued a bull in 1501 against the unlicensed printing of books and in 1559 the Index Expurgatorius, or List of Prohibited Books, was issued for the first time."

      and

      "The first copyright privilege in England bears date 1518 and was issued to Richard Pynson, King's Printer, the successor to William Caxton. The privilege gives a monopoly for the term of two years. The date is 15 years later than that of the first privilege issued in France. Early copyright privileges were called "monopolies," ...

      and

      "In England the printers, known as stationers, formed a collective organization, known as the Stationers' Company. In the 16th century the Stationers' Company was given the power to require all lawfully printed books to be entered into its register. Only members of the Stationers' Company could enter books into the register. This meant that the Stationers' Company achieved a dominant position over publishing in 17th century England"

      History of Copyright Law

  5. Confused by XanC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If piratebay.se was seized, then how is it redirecting to piratebay.org?

  6. Non-EU by DrYak · · Score: 2

    Liechtenstein is under EU jurisdiction

    Nope.

    Same situation as Switzerland: both countries are not members of the EU, but sign some treaties with the EU (like Schegen).

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  7. Tor .onion by DrYak · · Score: 3, Informative

    meanwhile:
    http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/

    still works and has never been taken down.

    (And maybe they also have a .bit namecoin and a few other trendy stuff)

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    1. Re:Tor .onion by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2

      Um no, doesn't work.

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  8. TOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    From their blog:
    "For those of you that wants to connect to TPB using TOR the old .onion address is back up and running.
    http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/ "