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Feinstein-Burr Encryption Legislation Is Dead In The Water (slashdot.org)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via Reuters: After the San Bernardino terrorist attack, key U.S. lawmakers pledged to require technology companies to give law enforcement agencies a "back door" to encrypted communications and electronic devices. Now, the push for legislation is dead only months after the terrorist attack. In April, Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein released the official version of their anti-encryption bill with hopes for it to pass through Congress. But with the lack of White House support for the legislation as well as the high-profile court case between Apple and the Justice Department, the legislation will likely not be introduced this year, and even if it were, it would stand no chance of advancing, said sources familiar with the matter. "The short life of the push for legislation illustrates the intractable nature of the debate over digital surveillance and encryption, which has been raging in one form or another since the 1990s," reports Reuters. Technology companies believe security would be undermined if it were to create a "back door" for law enforcement, while law enforcement agencies believe they need to monitor phone calls, emails, text messages and encrypted data in general for security purposes.

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  1. Good by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was stupid legislation crafted by profoundly ignorant people.

    1. Re:Good by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was stupid legislation crafted by profoundly ignorant people.

      You misspelled "malicious" there, sport. Both of these winners have been a cancer on The People from the beginning.

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    2. Re:Good by MrKaos · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was stupid legislation crafted by profoundly ignorant people.

      You misspelled "malicious" there, sport. Both of these winners have been a cancer on The People from the beginning.

      Malicious indeed dp, according to the draft of the Bill if it had passed so too would the meta-data rentention provisions casually obscured in the definition of "DATA" in Sec 4.5 to include "COMMUNICATIONS IDENTIFYING INFORMATION" defined in Sec 4.1.A-C.

      Section 4.1 defined that to be "dialing, routing, adressing, switching, signaling, processing, transmitting and other data that", (A) was *not* the contents of the communication, (B) identifies the origin, destination, time, date, duration, termination or status of each communication generated, received or controlled by a user and (C - here is the kick in the balls) includes (C.i) public, local and source addressing including (C.i.I) local and public IP address, (C.i.II) static or dynamic ports. (C.ii) MAC, IMIE and network service identifiers used by each party, (C.iii) Service address identifiers used by each party (C.iv) QOS, packet size (C.v) all co-ordinated to UTC.

      I doubt this is the last you have seen of an attempt to pass a meta-data retention Bill as there were simply no discussion about these provisions in this bill that I saw.

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    3. Re:Good by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The fact that she wants to get guns off the streets is the main thing. If the US follows in Australia's lead, it will bring the country out of the Wild West and into the modern world. "

      So that we can be defenseless, as the Europeans are now finding out to their chagrin? At least Australia is an island, with no permeable land borders or with the whole ISIS guerrilla army just a few island hops away.

    4. Re:Good by EmeraldBot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "The fact that she wants to get guns off the streets is the main thing. If the US follows in Australia's lead, it will bring the country out of the Wild West and into the modern world. "

      So that we can be defenseless, as the Europeans are now finding out to their chagrin? At least Australia is an island, with no permeable land borders or with the whole ISIS guerrilla army just a few island hops away.

      What, as opposed to the US, which is isolated by two oceans and even farther away than Australia is? Also, your gun policy is pretty weak for fighting terrorists - not only are people without practice horrible shots, they're not going to carry a pump action shot gun to the grocery store, and terrorists attack soft targets like schools or public squares, where not only will people be unlikely to carry them but even if you had one you'd be unable to effectively utilize it.

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    5. Re:Good by monkeyzoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Feinstein has her points that keep her in office.

      Feinstein sucks. She *used* to have her points decades ago, but now she's just a crotchety old ignoramus with a hard on for a police state.

      May her bill rest in peace, or rot in hell, as you prefer. ;)

  2. real reason the bill was dropped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You had to read all the way to the last sentence of the article to get to the actual reason:

    They also said there was reluctance to take on the tech industry in an election year.

  3. Time to recall Feinstein, CA by He+Who+Has+No+Name · · Score: 3, Insightful

    She's corrupt and senile and completely off in la-la land. Time for her to retire somewhere she can yell at clouds and grumble about not being able to divert federal contracts to her husband or wipe her ass with the Bill of Rights anymore.

  4. The recurring problem by Mal-2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The recurring problem is that this can be shot down this year, and next year, and the year after that... but they only have to succeed once, and then we're all stuck with it. Add to that the fact that they can just tack it on to a budget bill and seriously, how are we supposed to stop these things from happening? The attack mode on any Congressman who votes against the budget bill is incredibly scathing, no matter what their justification for doing so, and again, that little problem remains that freedom has to win every battle, while the police state only has to win one.

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    1. Re:The recurring problem by Virtucon · · Score: 2

      which is why we need to simplify legislation in general to say 50 pages max. No more 2000+ page pieces of shit that nobody can understand with buried crap that slips by without review. These fucking idiots in Congress don't read legislation anyway but if it's at least small enough they can't sneak shit like this onto a bill.

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    2. Re: The recurring problem by macsimcon6500 · · Score: 2

      The larger problem is Americans don't vote in numbers high enough to retain control of their government, as they do in Europe or Australia. Also, Americans are astonishingly ignorant, so it makes us easy to manipulate. I don't see how we fix this country until we fix these two problems.

  5. What debate? by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It was extremely stupid legislation by smart people who tend to be driven more by knee jerk reactions than measured thought. Or is that potential campaign contributions over measured thought, I've kinda lost track by now.

  6. Re:Dead. It's over. Fin. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Why do we keep electing the same scum year after year? What is wrong with the American voter?

    Feinstein's opposition in particular is usually some kind of special scum, probably on the premise that only scum can unseat scum. I vote against her every time I vote anyway.

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