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'Huge Wake Up Call': Third of Central, Northern Great Barrier Reef Corals Dead (smh.com.au)

iONiUM quotes a report from The Sydney Morning Herald: More than one-third of the coral reefs of the central and northern regions of the Great Barrier Reef have died in the huge bleaching event earlier this year, Queensland researchers said. Corals to the north of Cairns -- covering about two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef -- were found to have an average mortality rate of 35 percent, rising to more than half in areas around Cooktown. Bleaching occurs when abnormal conditions, such as warm seas, cause corals to expel tiny photosynthetic algae, called zooxanthellae. Corals turn white without these algae and may die if the zooxanthellae do not recolonize them. "It is fair to say we were all caught by surprise," Professor Hughes, director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies at James Cook University, said. "It's a huge wake up call because we all thought that coral bleaching was something that happened in the Pacific or the Caribbean which are closer to the epicenter of El Nino events." The report says, "The northern end of the Great Barrier Reef was home to many 50- to 100-year-old corals that had died and may struggle to rebuild before future El Ninos push tolerance beyond thresholds."

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  1. Re: News FLASH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not sure if joke or you're ignorant of the fact that corals are actually animals and not rocks.

  2. Re: News FLASH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Probably educated in the USA.

  3. GM coral by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some corals tolerate heat much better than others. We should identify the genes that make that possible, and clone them into other coral species. Some research is being done.

    1. Re:GM coral by sl149q · · Score: 4, Informative

      For a slightly more balanced view on this see here: https://judithcurry.com/2016/0...

      One of the reasons that coral can adapt quickly is that their symbionts adapt quickly.

      From the above reference "Although coral genomes may evolve slowly, their symbionts have extremely fast generation times, averaging every 7 days. Furthermore the symbiont community consists of hundreds of symbionts that have already adapted to a wide variety of temperature, irradiance and salinity variables within different microclimates over the past million years. Symbiont shuffling and shifting is an evolutionary masterpiece that circumvents plodding evolutionary mechanisms of most organisms with long generation times and enables immediate adaptation.

      A good summary statement is provided by Baker et al. “flexibility in coral–algal symbiosis is likely to be a principal factor underlying the evolutionary success of these organisms”.
      "

    2. Re:GM coral by Namarrgon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently these symbionts didn't adapt quickly enough; much of the coral is dead.

      However, it's not unheard of for reefs to recover faster than expected, if the water quality is good enough, so there's still some hope that any remaining symbionts will be more resilient in future. Unless they get hammered again too quickly...

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    3. Re:GM coral by zmooc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's much more going on than "some research". Australia is actively breeding coral that is adapted to future conditions (lower pH, more CO2, higher temperatures) and is planning on releasing the results in the wild. I got this from the documentary about the Great Barrier Reef on Discovery Channel, but this article also describes it:

      http://www.nature.com/news/cli...

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    4. Re:GM coral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nothing Judith Curry says is balanced.
      She's a professional apologist and skeptic for deniers, who keeps her head firmly in the sand and tries to explain how warming temperatures aren't actually warming temperatures. She barely escapes being an outright denier herself, by taking the "we need to know more" stance instead of "its not happening" stance.

    5. Re:GM coral by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

      Bleached coral is not always dead. Bleaching is caused by expulsion of the symbionts with the intent of acquiring new symbionts more able to produce nutrients under the current conditions.

      Death occurs in situations like this only if symbionts do not arrive and the coral starves.

      The media tends to overlook the details. As usual.

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  4. Meanwhile in America by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're debating bathroom peen inspectors in red states as a top priority.

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    1. Re:Meanwhile in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cause that unlocked door they have today is going to stop them. This is least thought out attack on a group of people to date. Utterly stupid, much like building a wall between us and a country famous for tunnel digging, simply brilliant in the most painful way possible.

    2. Re:Meanwhile in America by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, we are debating whether letting sex predators and perverts into the ladies room is a good idea or not.

      I have grave news for ya Bucky - Sexual predators and perverts have been going into your ladies rooms for a long long long long time before you got to throw a little more hatred of gays and people who aren't the right type of people as you would have it. Google fu shows that as a fact.

      And you could burn every transgernder person at the stake and the sexual predators and perverts will still go in to rest rooms. Why? Not many transgenders are that.

      Don't for a minute pretend that this isn't just more of the projection based hatred of people who think that restrooms equal sex, and that someone that changes gender is somehow a prevert. Some guy that had his weenie cut off is not much danger to our wimminfolk, considering s/he probably didn't cut it off in order to become a lesbian.

      A heterosexual male with bad impulse control and a penchant for sexually assaulting women on the other hand is, and a person like that isn't going to think "I was going to follow that woman into the restroom and rape her, but there's a lat against me going in there, so I better not." And these laws? They don't do a thing about that.

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    3. Re:Meanwhile in America by GTRacer · · Score: 2

      I mean if I can go into the little girls room[...]

      The only reason you should be going into the ladies' room is if you are female by sex or identity. One assumes you are biologically male, so then we have to assume you've dealt with gender identity dysphoria and maybe are seeing a doctor or therapist.

      If you're walking up to the door with a camera crew in tow or a chip on your shoulder, then you might just be a misguided attention whore.

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    4. Re:Meanwhile in America by Pascoea · · Score: 2

      Ok, troll, I'll bite.

      So where are these "sex predators" and "perverts" going to the bathroom now? Assuming they look like a man, they are probably in the boys bathroom. With your son. Why has that not been a problem? Are you standing in the bathroom making sure some "pervert" isn't doing anything? What about when your wife is out with him? Does she go into the bathroom with him too?

      Please quit using "think of the children" to mask your homophobic bullshit.

  5. Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    UNESCO had drawn up a list of world heritage sites that were in danger from climate change, and Australia had the reefs removed because it would hurt tourism.

    Between this and WHO saying there's no real risk to spreading zika so please go the the Olympics, it's obvious that it's all about the money.

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    1. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by Layzej · · Score: 5, Informative

      UNESCO had drawn up a list of world heritage sites that were in danger from climate change, and Australia had the reefs removed because it would hurt tourism.

      To top it off, Australia has just gutted the research arm that studies this.

      See no evil. Hear no evil.

    2. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by aXis100 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's just appalling.

      To further highlight the farce, 3 months ago the Australian environment minister Greg Hunt was awarded "Best Minister in the World".

      Meanwhile under his watch we've:
      - Abolished the Carbon Tax
      - Increased our Carbon emmissions
      - Approved the biggest coal mine in the country
      - Approved additional dredging to allow for increased coal exports
      - Passed legislation to prevent environmentalists from legally challenging his rulings.
      - Did nothing whilst big chunks of the Great Barrier Reef died.
      - Called out the opposition leader on not offering support for communities that depend of reef tourism. I mean, WTF??

    3. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

      But everyone know Jesus loves oil and would never make CO2 harmful, and anyone who says otherwise is an evil Communist out to destroy capitalism.

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    4. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      Couple of points. The abolishment of the carbon tax was the primary election promise of the Liberal National Coalition, so you would expect that to happen.
      Our carbon emissions have actually decreased during this current government - See page 3 for a simple graph https://www.environment.gov.au...
      You might disagree with the Adani coal project and the Gladstone upgrade but many many people do not. The fuss around the dredging was stupid. You are not going to stop ships going in and out of the harbour, so making it safer and reducing the risk of accidents will reduce the pollution risk. The spoil that would have been put back into a non reef area, some 50nm away from the reef was safe. That soil will now be stored on land and poses no environmental risks.
      The legislation re the environmentalists was passed to require you to show some kind of standing with regards to the permits. Without the legislation it was possible for anyone to bring a challenge over and over and over. Environmentalists are still able to challenge approvals but not repeatedly.

    5. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by Namarrgon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A carbon price is a proxy for the missing external costs of coal power, so it helps raise the wholesale price to better reflect its true cost (which is around double current wholesale prices). This alone encourages alternatives - both demand for carbon-neutral alternative power, and investment in further renewable generation.

      But of course, the revenue from that didn't vanish; it was funneled back into industry adaption schemes and consumer tax cuts. And it worked, driving emissions down significantly, until it was repealed in 2014 (at which point they immediately started rising again.

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    6. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by Clifton+Beach · · Score: 3, Informative

      And then instead of being ashamed about getting references to the reef removed from the UN's report on climate change, Australia's (Anti) Environment minister then gloated about it on Twitter:

      "Under Labor the U.N. put the Great Barrier Reef on the In-Danger 'Watch list'...Thanks to the coalition it came off"

      I wish this was satire but unfortunately it's not.

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    7. Re:Australia had the UNESCO report censored. by aXis100 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hmm, is that why the Australia government quietly released a report on Christmas eve 2015 showing a 1% increase. I'm sure they were hoping no-one was watching.

      http://www.theguardian.com/aus...

  6. Re:News FLASH by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Long live rock!

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  7. That's a known issue by no-body · · Score: 2, Informative

    So:

    - why is it happening?
    - why are the individuals/groups pulling the strings and the press allowing this to happen without yelling and screaming?
    (are the "protesters" considered lunatics?)
    Maybe dreamland: nothing happens to us, we can afford it... elysium-style
    Or - afraid of taking risks to go outside the "normal", loosing the comfort zone
    - does not concern me
    - too busy making ends meet ...

    It's really bad - one just can wonder what's causing it in human brains to let this happen.
    I recently met a guy: global warming does not exist and a huge waterfall of words arguing for why this is the case, impossible to even touch the subject - extremely determined.
    I just classify it as religious believe system - no real proof, continuous repetition burns the PROM and it runs forever, if you touch it, it may explode.

    1. Re:That's a known issue by geekpowa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Rushing off and blaming every adverse environmental outcome on climate change is in itself a religious belief system.

      All sorts of stressors on environment such as polluation from agricultural/catchment runoff. Land surface temp increase of around 0.7c over last 60 years or so + recent El Nino, may or many not be a contributor but no shortage of people falling over each other to lay blame principally at the feet of AGW

    2. Re:That's a known issue by geekpowa · · Score: 2

      Mind. Blown. You trolling but just forgot to logout?

      I never intended to provide a fix for the problem. Although, generally speaking, the first step to fixing a problem is to correctly diagnose/attribute causes.

    3. Re:That's a known issue by Livius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rushing off and blaming every adverse environmental outcome on climate change is in itself a religious belief system.

      Which is why no-one listens to people like that.

      But we do listen to actual scientists.

  8. Re: News FLASH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hmmm. Too close to call. I suggest an international spelling bee to decide.

  9. Re:Truly ironic by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Idiot. They're rising, it's obvious in places like Tuvalu. But the rise is slow - it'll never reach 10 feet any time soon, it's only risen one foot in the last century. But it's got a lot warmer, and that's the real problem. You did read the article, didn't you? Oh no: of course you didn't, you just leapt to make an ignorant comment based on your own stupid belief system. Business as usual, in other words. You should run for office.

  10. Wake up call for who? by darthsilun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Climate Change deniers will continue to deny it. You can't change their minds – they know what they know, and no amount of science will change their minds. Logic? That's a shibboleth to the deniers. If you use logic on them they just dig in their heels.

    Everyone else is already awake.

  11. Re:Truly ironic by riverat1 · · Score: 2

    But the satellite measurements say sea level is rising. Aren't satellites the gold standard? They appear to be when it comes to temperatures.

  12. Re:Truly ironic by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    Tuvalu, really? Plotting the data and running a linear fit results in a 0.3mm change per year, at best. That's about 1.2 inches per century/ I guess that's an obvious rise?

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  13. Re:And yet, China's emissions will grow by moeinvt · · Score: 2

    "allowed"? Seriously?

    Who the hell do you think has the authority to tell the Chinese what is or is not "allowed" in terms of their domestic energy policy?

  14. Re:Let's blame global warming and CO2 by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Let's ignore the fact that the earth has been significantly hotter, by several degree;

    What did the coral reefs look like then?

    had significantly higher CO2 levels, by several times.

    What did the planet look like then? Hint: NOT GOOD FOR US EITHER

    Pesticides and Herbicides are the likely true reason our reefs are dying.

    Herpes Virus is also killing reefs. However, this report is about reef damage which required a new explanation, not an old one. Those other things are causing steady dieoff, not catastrophic events.

    But we'd rather blame CO2 and Global Warming for every environmental problem,

    It is a fact that CO2 causes acidification, a fact that this causes reef erosion, and a fact that the ocean cannot sink this acidity as fast as we are causing it. What part of this do you find confusing?

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