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Apple To Extend iPhone's Product Cycle; Shift To 32GB Internal Storage On Base Model: Reports (nikkei.com)

According to Japanese outlet Nikkei, which has a good track record, Apple is planning to extend its iPhone's product cycle. The Cupertino, California-based company, which currently utilizes the same design language for two years, now plans to make major refreshes to its iconic smartphone every three years. The report claims that Apple is changing the refresh cycle as it struggles to innovate and provide new features and substantial improvements to its iPhone. For those planning to purchase the next iPhone, don't expect any design changes, the report adds. From the report: The new version slated for this autumn will look almost identical to the current iPhone 6. Functions such as the camera, water resistance and battery capacity will likely be improved, and the headphone jack will be removed. Also, a high-end version of the model will give users better-quality photo capabilities via correction functions. On the sidelines, the media is abuzz with reports that the next iPhone will have 32GB internal storage in its base model.

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  1. remove the headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why would you do this? to artificially inflate battery life or make it slimmer, not worth it, this is a stupid move.

    1. Re:remove the headphone jack by hey! · · Score: 2

      Well on the flip side, the headphone plug/jack connector is a common point of failure across multiple failure modes. You snag the cord and the phone goes flying, the thread-like conductors used in the cable break at the plug; water infiltrates through the jack into the case; mechanical wear caused by frequent insertions/removals degrades the electrical connection.

      These are all addressable issues, of course, to some degree at least. But you can just go wireless.That's what I do; I keep my Android phone in a waterproof case and never open the USB or headphone port covers. I use a Qi charger and a wireless headphone adapter which is practically weightless and stays plugged into the headphones all the time if I want to make calls. When I just want to listen to media I use a bluetooth headset.

        For many people the wireless charging and interconnect technologies probably aren't good enough yet, but that's an engineering problem, not a problem in concept. It wouldn't surprise me at all if in the future the connectors we're accustomed to on phones become as obsolete as 25 pin parallel ports on laptop computers are today. There's no reason in principle that phones can't be sleek, uncluttered and especially waterproof bricks, provided the various problems existing connectors solve are addressed adequately.

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    2. Re:remove the headphone jack by joaommp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Problem is that it's not only the headphones that will be missed. for some, is also the ability to use the headphone jack connected credit card readers.

    3. Re:remove the headphone jack by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      How many people are buying a new $650 phone, but have a car so old it doesn't have Bluetooth?

      *raises hand*

      Actually, that's not true. My car has Bluetooth, but it is headset profile only (no A2DP), which means that I can't use it for playing music or anything else. But even if it did have proper Bluetooth A2DP, the experience would still suck horribly, from what I've seen.

      As an experiment, I bought a Bluetooth receiver (JETech) to see if I could survive with Bluetooth if Apple decided to ditch the headphone jack. I'm about to switch back to using the headphone cable, because the experiment did not go well. Specifically:

      • Unreliable detection of receivers: When iOS sees multiple Bluetooth devices come online at the same time, it ignores the A2DP receiver and continues to ignore it until I tell the Bluetooth dongle to re-pair by holding and pressing the button. After ten seconds, the A2DP receiver gives up, reannounces its availability, and iOS finds it and starts talking to it. But that means I can't just leave the Bluetooth device hidden in my console. It has to be in a place where I can get to the button. As a user experience, this seriously sucks. If it is as inconvenient to use Bluetooth as it is to fiddle with a cable, there's no benefit, only downside.
      • Audio stack bricks itself: Every so often iOS's Bluetooth audio stack becomes completely bricked. When this happens, the audio is replaced by a loud buzzing noise, and I'm unable to get A2DP audio working again until I reboot the phone. This happens about every two weeks, give or take.
      • Death by beep: If I make the mistake of hitting the pair button (and sometimes even if I don't) while the phone is in this bricked-BT-audio state, I get an ear-splitting beep that is orders of magnitude louder than the normal pairing beep—loud enough to cause hearing damage.

      Before Apple makes Bluetooth be the only way of connecting headphones to their device, they need to dogfood their Bluetooth stack in the real world for about three more years and fix every problem that they encounter. I think they'll be unpleasantly surprised by the results, because it is not anywhere near being up to snuff.

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    4. Re:remove the headphone jack by Wdomburg · · Score: 2

      Erm, no. Even luxury vehicles didn't offer Bluetooth standard ten years ago. Cadillac, for example, didn't offer it as a standard feature until 2012.

      My car is a 2003, but I'm likely to spend at least $650 when I upgrade my phone next year. Why? Because I don't have a car payment eating up my disposable income.

    5. Re:remove the headphone jack by sexconker · · Score: 2

      My car is a 2003, but I'm likely to spend at least $650 when I upgrade my phone next year. Why? Because I don't have a car payment eating up my disposable income.

      Then you have spending priority problems, a 2003 car is no longer up to modern safety standards and likely will start costing you money to drive.

      This doesn't mean you have to buy a new one, but a nice 2013 off-lease car will be a FAR better place to put your money than a new iPhone.

      From all points, safety, dependability, and environmentally.

      You're an idiot, Starscream. You're literally suggesting that someone should ditch a perfectly capable car because it's 14 years old?

      Safety standards haven't changed much. A newer vehicle isn't necessarily safer, and when they are they're only marginally so (side air bags) or only so for idiots (backup cameras, self braking).

      If someone has no payment on a vehicle and no unusual maintenance costs, it's far, far, far cheaper to keep it than it is to buy a newer car for $$$$$.

      Environmentally, keeping a car as long as possible is the best option. As long as it's passing smog certification, it's going to be orders of magnitude more friendly to the environment to run it than to junk it and manufacture another car. (And if he sells or buys used, that's just extending the chain with other people.)

    6. Re:remove the headphone jack by sexconker · · Score: 2

      5 years for an automobile? I'd accuse you of being a shill, but if you were you would have recommended 3 years (and stated it as "36 months"). You're just a fool. A car should last at least a decade.

    7. Re: remove the headphone jack by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      For the small businesses I see using Square, I'm sure they would prefer having a BT card reader that didn't have to be perched precariously on top of the iPad (it's never an iPhone, but I'm assuming that the iPad will be next to lose the headphone jack). The reader could have a weighted bottom to rest on the counter for dipping, rather than having the iPad be passed back and forth between cashier and customer.

    8. Re:remove the headphone jack by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      Having BT is one thing, having BT that supports audio is another.

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    9. Re:remove the headphone jack by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Then you have spending priority problems, a 2003 car is no longer up to modern safety standards and likely will start costing you money to drive.

      I remember paying $400/mo for a car loan. I don't do that any more. It frees up a whole lot of cash to buy fripperies like phones. If one's choices involve saving many thousands of dollars on one non-essential new thing while blowing a few hundred dollars on one non essential thing, then one does not have spending priority problems.

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    10. Re:remove the headphone jack by Wdomburg · · Score: 2

      All vehicles cost money to drive. The advantage here is that it doesn't cost money to *own*. And with only 70,000 miles, the maintenance costs are not significant. Certainly less than financing even an entry level used vehicle.

      In terms of safety, my vehicle already has more features than required for new vehicles - front and side airbags, tire pressure monitors, traction control, anti-lock brakes, daytime running lights, etc, etc. There are more features available today, to be sure, but I don't consider adaptive cruise control or lane departure warning to be deal breakers. I wouldn't mind the blind spot monitoring that my wife's car has, but I'm also not willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get it.

      Bluetooth was only added to the high end Cadillac CTS-V in 2009 and then the CTS in 2012, but even then it didn't support audio profiles until CUE was introduced in 2013.

      My wife is on her second Honda Odyssey. The last one was a 2006, so no factory-installed bluetooth option, even on the Touring. Your wife was lucky, since the 2008 was the first model year to introduce bluetooth, but then only on the Touring model. But again, that only supports hands-free calling. They didn't support the A2DP profile until 2010 (and also only on the top end models; either the Touring or the EX-L with the optional navigation system).

      Bluetooth - especially bluetooth streaming - is a fairly new feature, even for higher end automobiles. Given the longevity of the modern automobile we're probably a decade or more off from it being a truly ubiquitous feature.

    11. Re:remove the headphone jack by irrational_design · · Score: 2

      Neither of my cars (both from the early 2000s) have aux ports. Apparently there is a way to add one on one of the cars, but the parts cost hundreds of dollars and it involves basically dismantling the dashboard.

  2. Great News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Wow!

    why purchase $5.00 headphones to listen to highly compressed lossy music, when I can purchase the same headphones, at 10-20X the price, because of a proprietary connector.

    Also, they should have a DRM chip in the headphones themselves, so users can't plug in headphones from someone else's device, they can market this as an anti-theft feature, it's helping the users!

    Also, the connector should be as flimsy as possible, breaking at the slightest use.

    Headphones are disposable anyway, a 3 month life time should be considered normal.

    1. Re:Great News! by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why purchase $5.00 headphones to listen to highly compressed lossy music, when I can purchase the same headphones, at 10-20X the price, because of a proprietary connector.

      No one is forcing you to use a proprietary connector at 10-20X the price. Bluetooth headphones start at about $11 shipped these days. Granted, they likely won't be decent, but neither will the $5 set you're worried you can't use. Alternatively, there are third-party Lightning -> 3.5mm audio jack adapters available for relatively cheap, allowing you to still use your $5 crappy headphones if you're dead-set on them.

      But let's be honest: none of this is actually something that'll ever affect you since you have no interest in this product. You just wanted to complain about a product from a company other than the one you support so that you could feel better about your purchasing decisions, which explains why you conveniently chose to ignore the obvious. That's not something unique to one side or the other. Apple fanboys do it. Android fanboys do it. But none of that makes it right. You're doing a disservice to yourself when you exaggerate the situation unnecessarily.

    2. Re:Great News! by DRJlaw · · Score: 4, Informative

      But let's be honest: none of this is actually something that'll ever affect you since you have no interest in this product. You just wanted to complain about a product from a company other than the one you support so that you could feel better about your purchasing decisions, which explains why you conveniently chose to ignore the obvious.

      No, let's be honest: you don't want to hear it. I agree with him, and I've purchased the iphone 5, 5s, 6, and 6se (not all for myself, mind you).

      I use a 6 and a 6se. I prefer the 6se. And it's going to take serious feature improvement to get me to move to a headphone jack-less successor to the 6se.

      Specify what you'll take as proof, because removing the headphone jack is one of the more idiotic decisions that I think Apple can make, and by God it does affect me.

    3. Re:Great News! by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're (quite understandably) assuming something I didn't say. I asserted that he was grossly overstating the situation, which he was. I never said I was a fan of them dropping the headphone jack, which you seem to have incorrectly inferred.

      I'm actually on the fence about it. In the long-term, I do want this stuff to go wireless, since it opens up new form factors, provides more freedom in how we use our devices, and makes it easier to move around (I can't count how many times I've pushed back from my desk at work and had my headphones yank off my head/out of my ears). I actually just purchased my first set of Bluetooth headphones this week (admittedly, a rather cheap set) to see how they work for me in practical use. That said, the idea of needing to replace batteries or charge on a regular basis, introducing room for additional latency, dealing with signal interference, adding cost (even if it's marginal), or facing the idea that they might stop working at the least convenient time is utterly and completely unappealing. That's why I went cheap; I get to see how much those disadvantages hurt and whether they matter to me in practice before I commit more fully.

      More or less, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of them dropping the headphone jack, since there are clear advantages to it, but my misgivings feel very similar to the ones I had when floppies went away or as we've started to see optical media disappear. It's a bit painful at the time, and there are things that are lost in the process, but by and large, the changes are for the better in the end. We can argue about whether the time to do this change is now or not, but I think most of us have a sense that the world should be going this direction eventually.

  3. Yes, dropping the headphone jack seems boneheaded. by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On the other hand, I'm old enough to remember when Macs dropped the serial port in favor of USB, and all the squalling about "b-b-but my cheap modems!" Heck, I remember the complaints about non-standard (i.e. not DB9 or DB25) serial connectors.

    Maybe it'll look boneheaded five years from now, maybe it won't. I'm going with "will", but I've been wrong before betting against Apple.

  4. and the headphone jack will be removed by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "and the headphone jack will be removed"

    Is this what people want? I mean, I know a lot of people like their wireless ones... but I prefer wired. I hate charging the stupid things. I hate pairing the stupid things. I like just being able plug them in and go. I like that by being plugged in the headphones stay with the phone; and don't get left behind. I like that they are cheap and easy to replace.

    Plus I still occasionally connect it to aux inputs and such in cars. My daughter uses headphones with her iphone all the time. Everyone i know has wired headsets and headphones... only a handful prefer wireless/bluetooth solutions.

    1. Re:and the headphone jack will be removed by macs4all · · Score: 2

      "and the headphone jack will be removed"

      Is this what people want? I mean, I know a lot of people like their wireless ones... but I prefer wired. I hate charging the stupid things. I hate pairing the stupid things. I like just being able plug them in and go. I like that by being plugged in the headphones stay with the phone; and don't get left behind. I like that they are cheap and easy to replace.

      Plus I still occasionally connect it to aux inputs and such in cars. My daughter uses headphones with her iphone all the time. Everyone i know has wired headsets and headphones... only a handful prefer wireless/bluetooth solutions.

      As much as I don't like the idea of a 2.4GHz microwave transceiver stuck in my ear/strapped to my head, I also hate that almost constant "dammit!" that happens when you get your headphone/headset cable looped under the parking brake handle, and the spare cable dance you have to do to "dress" the extra headphone/headset cable SOMEWHERE to keep it from getting caught on EVERY. SINGLE. THING.

      So, I can sort of see it both ways. I just hope that sound quality doesn't (further) erode from all this. Afterall, one could theoretically provide a more robust analog audio path to the headphones' drivers themselves if you don't have to squeeze 4 or 5 conductors into a cable the size of a pencil-lead; but we will see...

  5. Re:Headphone jack is important by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    You don't need a jack when you have Beats(tm) Bluetooth headphones. Beats(tm): All the Cool Athletes Wear One. Why Don't You?

  6. Re:Strange strategy by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You are holding it wrong.

  7. Curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The 32GB base absolutely makes sense as 16GB is not nearly enough for anyone but a casual user. Load up a couple dozen Apps, store email on your phone and take some photo's and BAM, your 16GB is done.

    As far as the headphones, I personally do not care. I use bluetooth and for those that still want to use headphones, there will be a lightning adaptor to do so. I really do not get the reason, though. To make the phone .xxx MM thinner? IMO, it's already too thin and quite cumbersome to use w/o a case on it.

  8. The Apple upgrade treadmill is losing steam. by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    Apple is no longer able to convince people to upgrade as frequently as they had in the past, because Apple is no longer able to come up with good reasons for those customers to upgrade.

  9. Magstripe is old tech. by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is only the Square magstripe reader that connect via the headphone jack. The chip reader and contactless Apple/Google pay reader connects wirelessly. Unless you have been living under a very large rock, you should be aware that magstripe is now legacy tech. If you continue to accept it at point of sale as a vendor, you now eat any and all fraudulent charges instead of the bank or card issuer. You can always keep an iPhone 5, 5s, 6, or 6s around for pint of sale use, and it is possible that Square will come up with a lightning connector model. I am also sure there will be an Apple headphone to lightning adapter.

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  10. 32 GB flash is now...what? 7 bucks? by DidgetMaster · · Score: 2

    I bought a 32 GB flash thumb drive the other day for about $10 retail. I assume Apple gets it cheap buying in bulk. No reason why anything as expensive as the iPhone should come with anything less than 64 GB.

  11. Removal of the 3.5mm jack will jack up in-car inte by JonBoy47 · · Score: 2

    One of the big wins Apple scored in the past decade, outside their own industry, was the way they spurred automobile manufacturers to add iPod/iPhone integration. Now, the average car on today's roads is about 11 years old. Most cars of the mid-2000's provided just a 3.5mm aux Jack. I realize Apple's customer base skews to the higher end of the income spectrum, and likely drives newer cars, but that still will leave a large number of customers out in the cold because they don't have the means (or willingness) to change their car.

  12. Re: Removal of the 3.5mm jack will jack up in-car by DMJC · · Score: 2

    This is a $88 problem to solve. I put a Sony head unit in my car for $300 back in 2012. Best decision I ever made. handles calls and streaming bluetooth audio. The new ones are $80 now with the same feature set.

  13. Re: Removal of the 3.5mm jack will jack up in-car by sl3xd · · Score: 2

    And there are even cheaper options. There are standalone bluetooth A2DP receivers with a 3.5mm output jack for $12.

    I've owned and used one for close to a decade now.

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