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Scientists Announce Plans For Synthetic Human Genomes (washingtonpost.com)

An anonymous reader writes: After it was reported three weeks ago that scientists have held a secret meeting to consider creating a synthetic human genome, the participants of that meeting have officially published their plans. They announced a plan to launch a project that would radically reduce the cost of synthesizing human genomes -- a revolutionary development in biotechnology that could enable technicians to grow human organs for transplantation. The Washington Post reports: "The announcement, published Thursday in the journal Science, is the latest sign that biotechnology is going through a rapidly advancing but ethically fraught period. The promoters of synthetic genomes envision a project that would eventually be on the same scale as the Human Genome Project of the 1990s, which led to the sequencing of the first human genomes. The difference this time would be that, instead of 'reading' genetic codes, which is what sequencing does, the scientists would be 'writing' them. They have dubbed this the 'Genome Project-write.'"

57 comments

  1. That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by Timoleon · · Score: 1

    What could possibly go wrong, Dr. Frankenstein?

    1. Re:That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by LifesABeach · · Score: 0

      If you're and H1B visa holder, be afraid, be very afraid.

    2. Re:That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're and H1B visa holder, be afraid, be very afraid.

      THAT'S RACIST

    3. Re:That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nature comes up with some pretty fucked up shit itself.

    4. Re:That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I see no mention nor indication of race in GP. If anything, it's visa'ist.

    5. Re:That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by AshFan · · Score: 0

      I wonder how I enter the konami code? Interpretive dance?

    6. Re: That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything it's incorrectly phrased.

    7. Re: That's Frankenschteen, You Oaf! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Is it?

  2. Rent-to-Own Genetics by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    Write Now

    1. Re:Rent-to-Own Genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WriteNow- terrific software from people who knew how to code. Written in 68X Assembly, it, the Mac OS, and documents could all fit on one 400kb floppy.
      This was cool, because one could just distribute the floppy to people without WriteNow. Piracy, of course, but WriteNow was never intended to make money anyway.

      As to Piracy here, make it a Write-Only-Genome. (Signetics may have some prior art with the 25120.)

  3. too much of a hurry by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    seems to be in too much of a hurry.
    why not demonstrate this with synthetic animal/plant genomes first.

    and drop the "to grow human organs for transplantation" whitewash. that is not the only use, if this can be done.
    they are promising and planning stuff too early and rather dishonestly. as with embryonic stem cells.

    scientists should develop the technology for itself, without broadcasting either selective benefits, or hiding possible abuses.
    leave that to people who will make the political and legal decisions; public, politicians judges, philosophers, etc

  4. WTF is the point for synthetic organs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously. Organs with synthetic genomes will be rejected just like any other foreign tissues. As a result, immunosuppressive drugs are needed, which prevent rejection at the expense of making the person more vulnerable to infections. The goal shouldn't be to create a synthetic genome but to make the best use of a person's own stem cells. Furthermore, I'm skeptical of the true motivations because the justifications given don't make sense and I don't understand the need to hold a secret meeting to plan the project. Nothing about this makes sense.

    1. Re:WTF is the point for synthetic organs? by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

      Nothing about this makes sense.

      At least, not until one considers that their real double secret plan is to engineer the parts for a sexborg. That way they can mix and match from the same stock to swap out, say, the breasts as they wear out.

      On a more serious note, one rather guesses that they will eventually be able to "write" matching tissue and stealth it in past the immune system.

      rgb

      --
      Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --- Bertrand Russell.
    2. Re:WTF is the point for synthetic organs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslim sexborg is virgin for you every time.

    3. Re:WTF is the point for synthetic organs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfft... 72.

      Thomas 23.

    4. Re: WTF is the point for synthetic organs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not necessarily true. This technology could allow scientists to produce stem cells of a universal type - or more likely just a few different classes of stem cells that between them would be compatible with just about everyone. Also, as far as I know it's not so easy to manipulate a genome isolated from a blood sample into a cell. This technology could potentially allow scientists to 3d print stem cells custom tailored to a person's genome, thus allowing them to grow organs specifically designed for that person.

  5. STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    STFU

  6. Fucking Monsters. by zenlessyank · · Score: 0

    Fucking with shit that shouldn't be fucked with. Death is a blessing. Embrace it.

    1. Re:Fucking Monsters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans have been doing this ever since Caveman-Chad those to fuck Pretty-Susan rather than Ugly-Betty.

    2. Re:Fucking Monsters. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Fucking with shit that shouldn't be fucked with. Death is a blessing. Embrace it.

      We have been playing God since the first time we cutout a diseased appendix. Feel free to die off and thereby get out of our way.

    3. Re:Fucking Monsters. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      "We".."Our".. I'm pretty sure you have nothing to do with any of it and you are just another maggot wanting credit for something you have nothing to do with. Tag-alongs and cult members are the same way. I never was in their way. Might want to get that mental issue resolved.

    4. Re:Fucking Monsters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Appluhu was obviously speaking for the collective human race, not trying to take credit personally. *You* might want to get that mental issue resolved.

    5. Re:Fucking Monsters. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      That was the point. He isn't part of the human race. Whooosh.

    6. Re:Fucking Monsters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you have to post a comment that makes any goddamn sense before you get to say 'whooosh.'

  7. They're trying to patent "human" genes by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This looks like an end run around patent law, to create "synthetic" genes that are patentable even if they're functionally identical to existing "natural" gene sequences.

    1. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Follow the money.

    2. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if someone naturally evolves a trait which is patented.

    3. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if someone naturally evolves a trait which is patented.

      Thats the beauty of it, there are so many possible genetic variations that legal will be on the gravy train for the remainder of the life of the universe!

    4. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      Hmm... considering how many of the amino acids are coded for by multiple codons, if it stands up at all legally, it would be trivial to do to any natural sequence.

    5. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that it's not that simple (biology never is). Yes, multiple codons may code for a single amino acid, but they may yield different expression levels or transcription rates. In the genetic manipulation world, "codon optimization" is already a thing.

    6. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same that if someone comes up with something already patented even if it was clean room development.

    7. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Except that it's not that simple (biology never is). Yes, multiple codons may code for a single amino acid, but they may yield different expression levels or transcription rates. In the genetic manipulation world, "codon optimization" is already a thing.

      Or, to put it another way, "Wow, biology is impossible."

    8. Re: They're trying to patent "human" genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry. Way off base. The point is to be able to synthesize a human genome based on a digital representation of that genome.

    9. Re:They're trying to patent "human" genes by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      True, but if you're going to patent the product you're going to clone it into a yeast or bacterium to ferment large batches of hormone or whatever, so you can optimize the other end.

  8. Buy Organs On Kickstarter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two hearts for the price of one.

  9. Synthetic DNA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Synthetic DNA has been around a few years. Yeah, this is definitely stuff that should not be messed with lightly. Artificial life in all forms is terribly more dangerous than the biotech industry recognizes. This is not an oops that is easily repaired, look at all of the unintended consequences of just about every single technology ever. Case in point, in America alone about 17000 people die from taking aspirin each year. When this comes down to self-replicating strands of DNA with mutation at every stage I would tread a bit more cautiously. The reported percentage of "junk DNA" an approximate measure of our ignorance.

    http://www.syntheticdna.org/

  10. Careful what you wish for: by Hartree · · Score: 1

    "Death is a blessing. Embrace it."

    You first! :)

    1. Re:Careful what you wish for: by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

      You next.

    2. Re:Careful what you wish for: by Hartree · · Score: 1

      Trust me. We'll all get there plenty soon enough.

      Even if we lived ten thousand years it's still an eyeblink compared to geology, let alone cosmology.

    3. Re:Careful what you wish for: by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      No problem, I'll go after you. I promise.

      --
      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
  11. Introns & non-coding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our ignorance is great. Tidying up the genome may break it.

  12. Profit by randalware · · Score: 1

    All new tech gets implemented by industries that can get return on investment the quickest.

    So look for your life like sex dolls/slaves to be available within a few years.

    and human like wage slaves soon after.

    Then the Clone Wars start.....

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    This is my opinion based on what little I know and understand of the rumors and lies Thanks, Randal
    1. Re:Profit by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Then start, the clone wars will. - FTFY

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  13. Replicants (Blade Runner) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This looks like an end run around patent law, to create "synthetic" genes that are patentable even if they're functionally identical to existing "natural" gene sequences.

    Which results in Replicants being sold as slaves, even though they are really just slightly modified humans. (Blade Runner Film)

  14. "The same scale" as genome analysis? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm. Every genome-analysis technique in existence has a substantial read-error rate, and overcomes those errors by reading lots of strands and doing lots of statistics. It seems like a very, very large leap from "analyze a billion DNA strands to come up with a single sequence that's accurate enough" to "produce a billion specified DNA strands that are each accurate enough".

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  16. I have several of these in my garden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Synthetic human genomes, in fact, are all over my neighborhood. Damn things are creepy.

  17. One step closer... by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

    To bio-roids becoming a reality (for you Appleseed fans out there).

    --
    You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
    1. Re:One step closer... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Sauron supermen for CoDominium fans.

      Think there was something in ST:DS9 too. Wasn't Dr Bashir (unknowingly) one?

      It generally doesn't end well. I know the F stands for fiction but some SF writers have a good hook into human nature. I counsel caution.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  18. Hypocritical Morality by transami · · Score: 1

    Considering we drop bombs on people every day and accept "collateral" damage as morally passable, you can take your "ethically fraught" and shove it back into your hypocritical pie hole.

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    :T:R:A:N:S:
  19. Obligatory by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    "..and this is how the zombie apocalypse starts."


    Somehow.
    I dunno; someone's gotta post it.

    --

    Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
    1. Re:Obligatory by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Man, I hope so.

      I am thinking life as a zombie isn't that bad. No responsibility, eat all day, no real conflict with each other. Sounds like a utopia really...

      --
      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
  20. Hunh. Whatever. by mmell · · Score: 1

    It's not Igor, it's Eyegor.

  21. Welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our new Dominion shape shifting overlords, and their Gem Hadar enforcers.