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FBI Developing Software To Track, Sort People By Their Tattoos (gizmodo.com)
An anonymous reader writes: According to an Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) investigation, the FBI is working to create software with government researchers that will allow law enforcement to sort and identify people based off their tattoos. The advanced tattoo recognition technology aims to determine "affiliation to gangs, sub-cultures, religious or ritualistic beliefs, or political ideology" and decipher tattoos that "contain intelligence, messages, meaning and motivation." Such research first originated at the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) in 2014, and used a database of prisoner's tattoos. The technology developed by NIST would "map connections between people with similarly themed tattoos or make inferences about people from their tattoos," the EFF reports. What some may view as even more unnerving is that the EFF investigation claims the researchers disregarded basic ethical government research standards, especially those relating specifically to prisoners. The obtained documents reveal NIST researchers sought permission from supervisors only after they had conducted their initial research. The EFF argues that a database that sorts citizens based on their tattoos may or may not reflect their religious or political beliefs, social affiliations, or interests.
identifying marks is old school
Finally a chance to put my fake tattoo system into production.
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So I can just imprison myself? You can hang all your pretty labels on it. I'm all bent over waiting for you. Please hurry.
Should probably be among the highest ranking factors from the set of heuristics they use to identify questionable people.
The advanced tattoo recognition technology aims to determine "affiliation to gangs, sub-cultures, religious or ritualistic beliefs, or political ideology"
Yeah, cuz that's any of their business.
Watch crime drop.
When did he retire? In my neck of the woods, everyone seems to have a tattoo or two
Tattoos have become so common and trendy amongst generation X (and later) that it is almost less common to see someone with no tattoos at all. You can try to identify someone by the collection of tattoos they have (since the Pokemon mentality of "gotta catch 'em all" seems to apply to tattoos) but that gets iffy as you don't know where some are and some may be covered for any of a number of reasons. Even sorting isn't that useful; sure there are gang and prison tattoos but there is no shortage of people with tattoos of their favorite broken-up band and people with barbed wire tattoos that can be mistaken for other things.
Really, pretty useless effort. Might as well go for high-speed retinal scanning.
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Any girl with tattoos on her neck is a slut. Trust me. If you see a girl with a neck tattoo, you can get in her pants no problem.
"NOT SURE" (without the quotes) around my wrist. Yup.
(no. not really. If / when I do get inked, it'll be the Warner Bros. and their sister Dot. And it won't be where an FBI camera can see it.)
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
I would draw l.e.o. and admin id tags or court seals allover my torso like scales of a reptile. Oh wait...
Cognitive bias, he only remembers ones that enforce his belief, and also many people have hidden tattoos.
There is also potential that he never stopped a person without a tattoo that wasn't a criminal.
Your dad only stopped criminals, good luck.
Especially on your neck, you added a new one next to "mother", Nimhrod?
Did he say the same thing about blacks?
Because it's just as stupid.
tats with UV ink (bonus if it requires certain bands within the UV range)
Converting free speech of a innocent criminal dispute into a commercial accessory! Hand-in your 14th amendment Card, Mr. A.C.!
would probably be hilarious
I sort people by their tattoos all the time. If you have a cute tramp stamp on your hip, like a butterfly or a unicorn, you go to the head of the line. If you've got "Born To Raise Hell" blazoned across your back, you go to the end of the line.
If you have a tattoo of the face of any human, living or dead, anywhere on your body, please step out of line and walk into the sea, because no matter what you think, it doesn't look like them one bit. Instead, it looks like Cliff Howard (unless it's supposed to be a tattoo of Cliff Howard, in which case it looks like a smeared Bazooka Joe).
You are welcome on my lawn.
Avoid girls with animal footprint tattoos. Trust me; she will divorce you, take all your pets, and deman allimony for passed emotional harm.
I'm going to take a guess and say there will be a lot of hits for this...
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EFF failed to mention the tattoo promiscuity scale - based on tattoo analysis, FBI can tell how likely a woman is to have a one night stand. Apparently agents have been using this in the field for a few years now. Unfortunately, they're still working on the STD probability prediction model.
I'm confused. How can this possibly work when every tattoo is an artistic expression of the bearer's unique, individual personality and life story?
These lunatics have entirely lost the plot
Identifying marks and law enforcement formally sorting you by your political and religious ideologies for making decisions about your guilt, innocence, suspect nature, surveillance, search, and seizure, however, isn't really old school at all. Not so publicly, anyway.
I find the whole thing very interesting. Apparently, the legal system can get away with considerably more than I thought it could.
Live and learn, I suppose.
So, how about those Kardashians?
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
MySpace is irrelevant. Sex offenders are banned from Facebook, which is pretty much the whole social enchilada these days. No Facebook means no family social networking, no friend networking, no job networking, no local swap boards, no nothing, really.
Try to keep up with the retribution train, will you?
http://www.nist.gov/itl/iad/ig...
Jim Cole, Homeland Security Investigations, DHS & Laura Carroll, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children,"The Use of Tattoo Detection and Recognition to Rescue Child Victims"
Hooray for the EFF.
Your dad is an idiot for not recognizing his cognitive bias, and so are you for not recognizing the flaw in his logic yourself.
People don't choose to be black.
People choose to have tattoos,
This. I work IT for a city, and someone thought it was a bug in our system that all of our inmates had tattoos. We did a spot check of about 5% of the inmates, and found that they all had tattoos.
Why weren't they already doing this?
I'm pretty sure I saw a tattoo database on some crime show years ago - so why the fuck has it taken them this long to adopt it?
Next you'll be telling me they are creating a database for fingerprints and photos!
knotty sluts.
Did you barge in on her banging your bull mastiff instead of your hung like a bull mastiff buddy? :)
The public safety system I worked on over a decade ago performed this same set of functions. Now, if it could identify the marks optically, that would be interesting.
"One reason not to get a tattoo is that a tattoo is positive identification. No one should ever do anything to help the police, especially when you may be the object of their interest." - George Carlin
They did this on the TV show The Shield well over a decade ago. Wait until the people who came up with this find out about The Wire.
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He did it to get over the "Murmansk Brushing Incident"
If the FBI can see *that* particular tat... we're in deeper shit than we thought.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
Distracting from the real story: facial recognition
The real reason (as indicated by their recent change in mission statement...) is so they can criminally charge copyright violations using the same system they use to look for mundane criminals. Because everybody knows copyright infringement pays better than locking up murderers and child rapists, but the former pays the bills while the latter builds the scope.
You think I'm kidding.
Ethical standards? You've got to be kidding me. They consulted an existing database. Sounds like these "ethical standards" have gone too far.
... I have a tattoo covering my entire body - of me, only taller. (Thanks Steven Wright)
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I have three tattoos, but there's no way they're going to get pictures of them for their database without a warrant, two days of prep and the assistance of a proctologist. All three of them are 50cm "up."
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This sort of tracking and surveillance is the hallmark of a fascist state. Even if the FBI is allowed to develop this kind of system, it surely wouldn't be legal, even in a country with as poor a record as the United States, on upholding democratic principles.
Darn it! I knew that taking that tattoo of a number one was a mistake.
once said, he had never stopped anyone with a tattoo that wasn't a criminal. Tracking those people is a good thing.
I have met cops like your father, they are always the type that like to beat up black people and shoot them without provocation. #BlackLivesMatter!
That may work for criminals where gang affiliation and status is a priority, but how will they know which of the cultural/criminal/political/religious/ritualistic intents, Joe Average expressed via his tattoo?
fucking tomb.
they will end up with a nice database of hipsters and faggots
It's a big gang.
BTW, they want to see your junk, too.
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Meanwhile, have you seen the US National debt lately?
The NWO is a dead fantasy.
Gorilla lives matter too
Excluding the obvious (tattoo parlors), they could check vape stores, biker bars, and middle school parking lots.
They used to (and still do) track people by their ear shape. This is why they flushed the hippies.
Pedestrian: but my identity cant be stolen if i dont have one!
Walk around like the guys in Stephenson's Cryptonomicon. Trench coat, wide brimmed hat and a bandana. If enough people do it you're back to being relatively more anonymous.
Better yet, someone make the police shrouds from A Scanner Darkly.
Of course these ideas will only work until law "enforcement" come up with biomechanical movement analysis to figure out who you are based on how you move.
That's completely retarded , the fact that govt would mention that just reveals that the entire thing has NOTHING to do with catching real bad guys , and everything with exercising undue power over any individual that might be "a problem" for someone in power , or just to make an example out of one person to strike fear into many others ... like terrorists do. Hmm.
Didn't someone warn us about this inevitable future ?
Isn't political ideology a protected class from discrimination? They wouldn't be allowed to formulate suspicion based upon religious practices would they? Idk... this scares me for some reason.
I know that State and Feds have catalogued tattoos for decades, they have been used inside the Fed Corrections dept, states too, for tracking gang affiliations. I know for sure that computers have been used with , primitive as it may be, to identify and associate any/all people with certain tattoos with the most aggressive in jail gangs. Those gangs are not contained by the walls and have long been very well established in the communities all over the country. Sharing data has never been a strong point of any Fed or State dept or agency. I only know of the policies on cataloguing tattoos by all police depts and by all correctional institutions upon arrest or admissions. It is another basic part of 'entering the system" and has been for longer than the 8 decades i have been alive. Computers and software make all kinds of applications of all this data simply a matter of what, when , and how. I am guessing, but tattoos may have been recorded or compiled as long or longer than fingerprints. just 2 John
And now you are. In the eyes of The Man!
People don't choose to be black.
I did, but it didn't work.