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BlackBerry Hands Over User Data To Help Police 'Kick Ass,' Insider Says (www.cbc.ca)

Reader Dr Caleb writes: A specialized unit inside mobile firm BlackBerry has for years enthusiastically helped intercept user data -- including BBM messages -- to help in hundreds of police investigations in dozens of countries, a CBC News investigation reveals. For instance, citing a number of sources, CBC says that BlackBerry intercepted messages to aid investigators probing the political scandals in Brazil that are dogging suspended President Dilma Rousseff. The company also helped authenticate BBM messages in Major League Baseball's drug investigation that saw New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez suspended in 2014. One document obtained by CBC News reveals how the Waterloo, Ont.-based company handles requests for information and co-operates with foreign law enforcement and government agencies, in stark contrast with many other tech companies. "We were helping law enforcement kick ass," said one person.

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  1. All three customers will be disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIP BlackBerry, again.

    1. Re:All three customers will be disappointed by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, a leak like this makes me think someone WANTS to drive another nail in the coffin...

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  2. In before Blackberry shills by LichtSpektren · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As difficult as it may be to believe, BlackBerry has an intense cadre of shills (or perhaps rabid insane fans) that pollute every Internet article they can find which sheds a bad light on BB.

    For us normal humans with functioning brains, we're just waiting for when BB goes under, hoping they sell their patent for a physical keyboard to a respectable Android OEM.

    1. Re:In before Blackberry shills by geoskd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They got praised for refusing to unlock phones but most ignored when people pointed out they gave up "cloud data" in a heartbeat.

      People have no reasonable expectation of privacy with cloud data. Its is well understood that once you send your data out into the world, it is fair game. If you don't like it, encrypt it, or make sure it doesn't leave your private devices. That is why the push for encrypted communications. Third parties are legally required to hand over data, but there is no requirement that the data be decrypted if the third party doesn't have the tools to do so. Apple makes sure that they do not have the tools to decrypt, as do many other software and hardware developers. Blackberry *does* have the tools to decrypt, and they are waaaay too ready to do so.

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    2. Re:In before Blackberry shills by PraiseBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not say- "People have no reasonable expectation of privacy with postal mail. Once you send the letter from your mailbox, it is fair game."

      Except, there are federal laws that specifically make it illegal for another private citizen to snoop on your mail, and require a warrant for law enforcement to snoop on your mail.

    3. Re:In before Blackberry shills by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Then, they got lazy

      I call this "Novell Syndrome." Many people here might not remember that at one time Novell built the absolute best LAN server software around. But they got big heads and refused to improve. They wanted to keep LAN administration an arcane art and were killed by Microsoft. Microsoft was to area networks as Apple was to smartphones (and whether you hate Microsoft or not, their server software is now ubiquitous). People wanted certain features and Microsoft/Apple listened while [RIM|Blackberry]/Novell didn't. Now anytime I see a company die because they got too full of themselves, I call it Novell Syndrome.

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  3. bad plan by geoskd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is simply amazing that the folks calling the shots at Blackberry cant see how downright idiotic this policy is.

    From a PR standpoint, its a miserable failure: Every news cycle for the last year, there has been some story or other implying that Cops are out killing innocent people in scores and droves. If you're blackberry, you get up and cheer on the killers.

    From a monetary standpoint, this is a miserable failure. Lets just advertise that we hand out your information to every two bit despot and charlatan that asks. Thats a way to instill confidence in your product as a secure device fit for the leader of the free world. I wonder how sales of their newer devices is doing?

    From an ethics standpoint, this is a miserable failure. "Those who will give up fundamental data security for a little perceived safety are morons" -Abraham Lincoln 1859

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  4. Re:And why is this wrong? by geoskd · · Score: 4, Informative

    police can ask other people about you without a warrant.

    The problem here is that Blackberry has deliberately built their system in such a way as they will always have access to, and subsequently the ability to divulge, your secrets. If you don't want blackberry decrypting your communications and giving that information to anyone who asks; Don't use Blackberry. That is the lesson they are trying to teach their customers.

    Blackberry has deliberately set themselves up as a third party to every conversation such that you as the individual no longer have any reasonable expectation of privacy and as such, the police don't even need a warrant to get at your information. Apple by contrast has gone to great lengths to ensure that they *are not a party to your information*, and as such Apple can't be compelled to give away your secrets because they don't have them.

    As always, all bets are off if you use cloud services, but then that just makes you a moron.

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