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World Reacts To The Worst Mass Shooting In U.S. History (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: Fifty people were killed inside Pulse, a gay nightclub, Orlando Police Chief John Mina and other officials said Sunday morning, just hours after a shooter opened fire in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. At least 53 more people were injured, Mina said. Police have shot and killed the gunman, he told reporters.
The shooter is not from the Orlando area, Mina said. He has been identified as Omar Saddiqui Mateen, 29, of Fort Pierce, about 120 miles southeast of Orlando, two law enforcement officials tell CNN.
Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved. While investigators are exploring all angles, they "have suggestions the individual has leanings towards (Islamic terrorism), but right now we can't say definitely..."
In the discussion on this submission, Slashdot readers reported that Reddit is among the sites that have removed some discussions about the shooter's identity, with one reader even reporting "Posts directing people where and how to give blood have been removed."
The shooter is not from the Orlando area, Mina said. He has been identified as Omar Saddiqui Mateen, 29, of Fort Pierce, about 120 miles southeast of Orlando, two law enforcement officials tell CNN.
Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved. While investigators are exploring all angles, they "have suggestions the individual has leanings towards (Islamic terrorism), but right now we can't say definitely..."
In the discussion on this submission, Slashdot readers reported that Reddit is among the sites that have removed some discussions about the shooter's identity, with one reader even reporting "Posts directing people where and how to give blood have been removed."
Point to the Christian mass shootings against gays in this country in the last 5-10 years.
You mean like the Christian terrorist who was thwarted in LA today from carrying out his attack on gays?
Of course there are the Christian terrorists shooting up abortion clinics.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Fun fact: if you're on the terror watch list you can still buy weapons. Thank God the 2nd amendment is more prescious than lives huh?
This is because a person on the terror watch list often do not know they are being watched and the terror watch list is completely arbitrary in that anyone can be placed on it for any reason. To deny someone a constitutional right because they are placed on a list would be a violation of their Fifth Amendment rights to not be deprived of; life, liberty or property without due process of law. In essence to deny someone rights because they are arbitrary placed on a list without being informed and no way to appeal being placed on such a list that deprives one of their life, liberty or property would be presuming them guilty of a crime without an indictment and trial which the Fifth and Sixth Amendments also prohibit.
I've read that homosexual relationships between Afghani men and boys are surprisingly common in Afghanistan, although forbidden and not entirely consensual.
Maybe this guy was in the category of less than consensual youth participant at some point and is having trouble with the cognitive dissonance of that experience.
Combine that with kind of a loser lifestyle and maybe the purifying mission of ISIS became appealing, offering an opportunity to get in on a little jihad, punish "those men" who made him perform homosexual sex acts, and purify his own tainted soul by demonstrating he's not one of them.
He chose gays to kill on purpose and it was a pretty deep and personal hostility. You can argue the strategic merits of a nightclub (limited egress, lots of people in a small space, etc) but dozens of places meet that criteria -- movies, malls, sporting events, and all of them filled with degenerate, gluttonous and heretical Westerners, all of them much higher value targets than Hispanic homosexuals.
He picked gays to kill because of his own psychological issues, ISIS propaganda was just a catalyst that set off the reaction.
What I really worry about now, though, is that every fringe nutjob with a personal axe to grind now using ISIS as an excuse to start killing people. I worry it will become a meme for lunatics that will take on a self-perpetuating dynamic.
That's just stupid! I'm 62 years old and been in a few situations that were life-threatening and involved guns. Universally, more guns by people in a given situation == more stupid shit! Listen, I'm no pussy Liberal and own 3 guns (Charter Arms 1911-clone; Ruger 10-22 and Ruger Blackhawk .357 magnum, with a 5" barrel) but our country is fucking insane when it comes to guns! Guns have become our new God! Why would I say that? Simple: when you regularly, willingly sacrifice your children and others on a regular basis, you are worshipping your God!
If we ever wake up and decide to do something sensible, I'd happily qualify, license or surrender my guns. No problem. Again, I like my guns a lot, but I do NOT love/worship them to the extent that I'm willing to be complicit in the worship of a false God.
Your citation of isolated anti-gay incidents over the course of the past century (from... where? Wikipedia, Mother Jones, and The Nation? Good job, there, Mr. Murrow...) just proves my point.
Meanwhile, the number of (Muslim) districts and (Muslim) nations which are *EXPANDING* their adoption of the strictest code of Sharia is GROWING. Yeah, you know, the strict kind: where gays and women with children out of wedlock are executed... Kind of what Christian nations did... IN THE MIDDLE AGES. Pray that Islam has a Reformation in the 21st century at least half as comprehensive as Christianity did in the 16th century.
>>pinning all violence carried out by people who might be Muslim on Islam
I'm not pinning it on Islam, you fool, the shooter called 911 before his crime and did that himself!
Many atheists treat the non-existence of god(s) like a fact just like the religious treat the existence as fact, that their belief is the only right belief and all other beliefs are wrong. Sure, atheists have no religious practices but they can be just as insistent on spreading their belief, shutting down alternate beliefs and intolerant of those who believe differently than themselves. As much as it'd probably be more scientifically correct to be an agnostic I have problems respecting people who believe in adult fairy tales just like superstition and astrology or that there's goblins and gremlins. I can't prove it, but yeah... I'm going to act like this is all a bunch of mumbo-jumbo with no basis in reality.
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