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The Biggest Maker of Raspberry Pis Has Been Acquired For $871 Million (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via The Verge: The biggest manufacturer of the Raspberry Pi minicomputer, Premier Farnell, has been acquired by Swiss industrial component supplier Daetwyler Holding AG for roughly $871 million. According to Bloomberg, the deal will reportedly help both companies compete better in the components market. "By combining forces, we significantly increase our competitiveness and extend our product range," Daetwyler Chairman Ulrich said in a statement, "facilitating a one-stop shopping experience for our wide range of customers from a multitude of industries." Premier Farnell is one of the only companies with a license to design and distribute Raspberry Pis. The Wall Street Journal says the Raspberry Pi devices are a big part of the company's business, as the division in charge of the Pi raked in 16 percent of the company's total revenue last year.

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  1. In other words... by bjwest · · Score: 5, Informative

    "By combining forces, we significantly increase our competitiveness and extend our product range," Daetwyler Chairman Ulrich said in a statement, "facilitating a one-stop shopping experience for our wide range of customers from a multitude of industries."

    Marketing speak for we've just cornered the market.

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    1. Re:In other words... by kheldan · · Score: 2

      Marketing speak for we've just cornered the market.

      Also probably 'market speak' for 'we will jack up the price'.

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  2. I hope they don't lose sight of their principles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Raspberry PI's are one of many neat little ARM devices. They are not the fastest but they are one of the trusted. You can also put ARM FreeBSD on them which I think is fantastic.

    ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/arm/armv6/ISO-IMAGES/10.3

    There are also armv7 and a new armv8 project around.

  3. wut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Premier Farnell is one of the only companies with a license to design and distribute Raspberry Pis."
    Licensed? I thought the Pi was "open hardware" so anyone could make them. Maybe a license fee for the video render or something, but that shouldn't be restricted.

    1. Re:wut by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

      No. You're probably thinking of Arduino.

    2. Re:wut by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Premier Farnell is one of the only companies with a license to design and distribute Raspberry Pis."
      Licensed? I thought the Pi was "open hardware" so anyone could make them. Maybe a license fee for the video render or something, but that shouldn't be restricted.

      No, the Pi is manufactured by a few companies under a licensing agreement. It is not open source hardware.

  4. Raspberry Pis(s) by surfdaddy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Rasberry Piss? My piss is usually lemon, not raspberry.

    1. Re:Raspberry Pis(s) by pellik · · Score: 2

      Are you a tree?

    2. Re:Raspberry Pis(s) by AJWM · · Score: 2

      I am Groot.

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    3. Re:Raspberry Pis(s) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He's my horse. My horse is amazing.

  5. Licensed to use the name (trademark) by raymorris · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anyone can make and sell a board based on the rPi design (probably*). You can sell a crappy one made from recycled reject components, with half as much RAM and a slower CPU if you want to. What you can't do is call the crappy version a "Raspberry Pi" and label it with the raspberry logo. You can call it Blueberry Cake if you want to.

    To sell a your board as a Raspberry Pi, you need permission, which is granted only to producers who meet the standards.

    You're also allowed to use the trademark name "Raspberry Pi" to say your accessory is compatible with the Raspberry Pi board, and certain other defined uses. Otherwise, you need permission to use the name.

    * A quick search didn't find an explicit license for the schematic or other copyrightable design documents.

    1. Re:Licensed to use the name (trademark) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try to get Broadcom to sell you that SoC that drives RasPi.
      They won't without insane volumes

    2. Re:Licensed to use the name (trademark) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone can make and sell a board based on the rPi design (probably*).

      ...

      * A quick search didn't find an explicit license for the schematic or other copyrightable design documents.

      See https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NoLicense (for software, but the same points apply here):

      Some developers think that code with no license is automatically in the public domain. That is not true under today's copyright law; rather, all copyrightable works are copyrighted by default. This includes programs. Absent a license to grant users freedom, they don't have any. In some countries, users that download code with no license may infringe copyright merely by compiling it or running it.

  6. Am I the only one... by gwolf · · Score: 2

    That, upon reading "minicomputer", thinks about things shaped (and sized) more or less like a PDP11, and never anything smaller than a microcomputer?

    Maybe the Raspberry-like form-factor should be called a "picocomputer"?

    1. Re:Am I the only one... by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 0

      I would love something like that or a Data General NOVA, too bad they're unobtainium.

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    2. Re:Am I the only one... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

      No, you aren't! I spent a year at the university coding on a PDP11, and then for my thesis i moved to a Data General Eclipse. And this was thirty years ago...
      I don't regret these times, but rather that skirt lengths hasn't followed the same trend...

    3. Re:Am I the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're telling us a WOPR. -PCP

  7. Dishonest reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The division in charge of" does not mean the thing they are in charge of is the only thing they are in charge of or that the thing even contributed a noteworthy part to the division's contribution to the company bottomline. But that's what you're trying to make it sound like, don't you. Take your hype and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

  8. Misleading Title by labnet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those in the electronics industry, esp EU, Australia, know Farnell (also Newark and Element 14) as a tier 1 supplier to engineers of electrical and electronic parts.
    Their catalogue is thicker than your fist, and RPI's make up a couple of pages.
    Thus the big story is not about RPIs, but that one of the largest electronic component suppliers has been acquired by a Swiss company.

    We would place an order every other day with these guys, but the competition is fierce from Digikey, who would now be the worlds No1 general component supplier, with Mouser and Farnell running second.

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    1. Re:Misleading Title by Agripa · · Score: 1

      I have an old Farnell paper catalog somewhere and it dwarfed the contemporary Digi-Key, Mouser, and Newark catalogs although about the same size as the Allied catalog. I was always a little envious of people in the EU who could buy from them because they carried parts which I could have used that were available in the US only with great difficulty.

    2. Re:Misleading Title by Kiwikwi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, when I read the title, I was also thinking that for Farnell, the Raspberry Pi was just one item among thousands for sale.

      But then I went on and read TFS, which says that "the Pi raked in 16 percent of the company's total revenue last year". So their catalogue may be thicker than your fist, but the RPI still accounts for 1/6 of their business. I doubt any other product in their catalogue comes close.

    3. Re:Misleading Title by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

      Also it says "Raspberry Pis"

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    4. Re:Misleading Title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? Turnover as a measure of business is meaningless. Profit is the only thing that keeps companies afloat. The whole point about the RPi is to keeps costs to a minimum so that the net price of the RPi is as little as it is. Even the Sony plant in Wales manufactures RPis using whatever spare capacity is available at cost. Cannot see a lot of margin for Farnell or other distributors to make a killing, except for mindshare, whatever that is worth outside of its core market.
      Farnell probably makes more on a small screwdriver than a shedload of RPis. Probably why the shipping is what it is.

  9. I like that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd go along with that. I take it there isn't a name for the small device form factor yet? Pico form factor sounds perfect because it has Pi in the name. Wrap it, ship it, good idea.

  10. Jameco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Jameco catalog that is just the right size for most of my needs as a PC modder. Where does Jameco fit into all of that?

  11. Ah, Farnell / Element 14... by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 1

    I wanted to buy some connectors from them. "NO MINIMUM ORDER" it said, on or near the front of the catalog. ...goes to the item page... "MINIMUM ORDER 10" or something like that. End of attempting to order. I went to eBay and bought exactly what I wanted, in the quantity I wanted.

    1. Re:Ah, Farnell / Element 14... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I wanted to buy some connectors from them. "NO MINIMUM ORDER" it said, on or near the front of the catalog. ...goes to the item page... "MINIMUM ORDER 10" or something like that. End of attempting to order. I went to eBay and bought exactly what I wanted, in the quantity I wanted.

      and probably dramatically cheaper in no small part due to shipping costs. their shipping charges are literally insane. There is just no way to justify them. They are padding their shipping considerably, or they are getting absolutely raped by their shippers, either because they are assholes to work with or because they are crap negotiators.

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  12. Obligatory by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    Daetwyler Holding AG has the biggest piece of the Pi now.

  13. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not the only one. Personally I have enough junk lying around to forego adding a couple fridge sized boxes for nostalgia's sake, but yes, "minicomputer" does mean that to me.

    On a tangential note, I'd been thinking of running VMS in a VAX emulator on top of a couple raspberries pi*, then cluster them, but don't actually have any lying around to do it with. And there's the thing about the shoddy USB and stability.

    * Editors take note.

  14. is one of the only / Maker of Raspberry Pis by citizenr · · Score: 1

    Who writes this drivel?
    1 either you are the only one, or you are one of many, you cant be one of the only ....
    2 Farnell is a leading electronic component distributor, rivalling Element14 and Mouser, not some two bit Pee manufacturer.

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    1. Re: is one of the only / Maker of Raspberry Pis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who writes this drivel? One of the growing number of special snowflakes who considers it harassment and feel abused when they are told they are wrong? Presumably it was supposed to read "one of the few", but nobody ever corrected this person in the past, so now we have it here.

      That aside, English is just about the only language in the world where you can put singular in plural, which is pretty damned weird, so if you can be one of the ones, why shouldn't you be able to be one of the only?

    2. Re: is one of the only / Maker of Raspberry Pis by augustw · · Score: 2

      2 Farnell is a leading electronic component distributor, rivalling Element14

      Element14 is Farnell.

    3. Re: is one of the only / Maker of Raspberry Pis by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

      Element 14 is silicon. Farnell just stole the name...

  15. Copyright for the schematic, NOT the design by raymorris · · Score: 0

    Copyright does not protect facts. Which components are used is a set of facts. To the extent that the schematic is protected under copyright, you can't sell the schematic. That doesn't carry over to building a board based on the design.

    Consider that the book "Networking for Dummies" is copyright protected, so I can't make and sell copies of the book. I CAN read the book and use that knowledge to make money. Similarly, I can read the rPi schematic and use that knowledge to make money. The gerber files and silkscreen would be borderline - to be safe one would make their own gerber.

    Obviously you run into some gray areas, but in general you should be able to legally clone the design - it isn't patented so far as I'm aware. The question would be exactly which files you'd need to re-write yourself. Since the SOC they use isn't available, you'd probably have to rewrite the gerber files anyway to adapt it for a slightly different SOC.