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Comodo Attempting to Register 'Let's Encrypt' Trademarks, And That's Not Right (letsencrypt.org)

Let's Encrypt is a nonprofit aimed at encrypting the entire web. It provides free certificates, and its service is backed by EFF, Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai and others. Despite it being around for years, security firm Comodo, which as of 2015, was the largest issuer of SSL certificates with a 33.6% market share on 6.6% of all web domains, last year in October filed for the trademark Let's Encrypt. The team at Let's Encrypt wrote in a blog post today that they have asked Comodo to abandon its "Let's Encrypt" applications, directly but it has refused to do so. The blog post adds: We've forged relationships with millions of websites and users under the name Let's Encrypt, furthering our mission to make encryption free, easy, and accessible to everyone. We've also worked hard to build our unique identity within the community and to make that identity a reliable indicator of quality. We take it very seriously when we see the potential for our users to be confused, or worse, the potential for a third party to damage the trust our users have placed in us by intentionally creating such confusion. By attempting to register trademarks for our name, Comodo is actively attempting to do just that. Update: 06/23 22:25 GMT by M :Comodo CEO has addressed the issue on company's forum (screenshot).

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  1. Why the Hell didn't Let's Encrypt register it?! by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't want somebody else to use a trademark, register it for yourself!

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    1. Re:Why the Hell didn't Let's Encrypt register it?! by evolutionary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a leverage game. The courts would favor Let'sEncrypt trademark (as they basically paid the government for it first). It could also be shown that in using it on such a scale it's purpose is to use Let'sEncrypt's name and in the end the group could get damages for Comodo. but first it has to pay for the lawyers to get. So it's not a matter of who is in the right, but who can use their purse strings to draw this out long enough. Our justice isn't really based on a sense of fair play, rather than whose got bling to play. Kinda like Net Neutrality. :D Hopefully Comodo decides the bad PR and litigation isn't worth it. but they might. I have little doubt they'll suggest a number (in essence blackmail) to get the domain at a "minimal fee". While it's true ideally one would register the web domain but domain != trademark. trademark wins, but only if the money exists to drag in out in court.

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  2. Remove Comodo CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comodo proved themselves that are not trustwordy.

    1. Re:Remove Comodo CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Comodo proved themselves that are not trustwordy.

      If they are untrustworthy in this respect, can they be trusted to perform due diligence when issuing certificates? After all a CA is supposed to be a "Trusted Third Party". If a CA shows itself not to be trustworthy, then maybe the browser suppliers should remove them from the (default) list of trusted CAs.

    2. Re:Remove Comodo CA by flopsquad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read their CEO's asinine post. I will never use a Comodo product. Asshats are one thing, but asshats who abuse the IP system and counter-blame the victims of their asshattery really grind my gears.

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  3. Drop Comodo CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With everything Comodo has done, or not done, that should have gotten them removed, maybe we should push to have the Comodo CA certs dropped from the products and platforms of sponsors "EFF, Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai and others".

  4. Hence the trademark by DrYak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone needs to show paying Comodo customers how to use Let's Encrypt to renew their certs for free.

    I think that's the reason why Comodo is trying to own the Let's Encrypt name....

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