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Microsoft Is Giving Students a Free Xbox One With Surface Pro 4 Purchases (theverge.com)

Microsoft on Wednesday announced a sweet deal for any student on the fence on purchasing the Surface Pro 4. The company has said that it will be taking $300 off when students purchase a Surface Pro 4 and Xbox One. In a statement to The Verge, Terry Myerson, head of Windows and devices at Microsoft said, "So basically a free Xbox One with the purchase of a Surface Pro 4." The deal is only running at Microsoft's retail stores in the United States. The deal goes live today and will last until August 14.

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  1. Still.. by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess that gets the price of a surface pro 4 down from "insanely overpriced" to "absurdly overpriced".

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    1. Re:Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IDK that *seems* like a pretty good price to me.

      The SP4 is a decent laptop/hybrid. It is 800-1900 depending on what features you slam into it. Much like any other laptop out there.

      Sure you can get other laptops out there in the same price range. But with an XB1? Not bad. If I were still a student I would most certainly be mulling that one over.

    2. Re:Still.. by sexconker · · Score: 4, Informative

      $899 isn't too expensive...

      Core m3, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD

      Well, you could step up to the i5 version, 8 GB of RAM, and a 256 GB SSD. Incremental upgrades in each category, can't be that much...

      $1299

      Wait, only the i7 has the good (good for Intel) GPU and the i5 has the GPU that barely handles flash video? I guess I'd need to go to the i7, what's another $100-$150, right?

      $1599

      If I'm spending that much I'll need to sell my desktop, monitor, etc. and use it as my main PC. Need to max out the storage. Wait, why is 256 GB the largest option? Let's at least bump the RAM up to the 16 GB my 5.5 year old PC had the day it was built...

      $1799

      Oh, now the larger storage options are available. With 1 TB it costs...

      $2699

      Well, at least the bleeding is over. Oh wait, the keyboard is sold separately?

      $2798

      Oh look! A money-saving bundle!

      $2798 with a free stylus and neoprene sleeve. And I guess now a free Xbone?

      WHAT A DEAL!

    3. Re:Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not really overpriced unless you're comparing it to cheap tablets for browsing the web and checking facebook. The SP, with a stylus and keyboard, is great for work or (I imagine) school. It's functional enough to actually create documents and write emails and such, pretty much like a laptop. The stylus gives a very quick and convenient way to take notes, which you can then look at on other computers due to syncing.

      I used the hell out of mine for years. Just don't purchase it thinking it's going to be nothing more than a tablet.

    4. Re:Still.. by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, if you buy a Surface Pro like a person buying cocaine at a try before you buy store.

      A more realistic version:
      I need a tablet. Wooo I just bought an m3 tablet with 4GB of RAM. It's crap that they charged extra for the keyboard, but hey this thing is great!

      i5 that doesn't handle flash video? The SP3 with the 4 generation old processor had an i5 that handles flash video, and if you're in a bind runs Photoshop and AfterEffects just fine too.

      Now where's that cocaine! I NEED MORE!!!!!

    5. Re:Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. I was interested in the SP4 until I found out how much it was going to cost. I ended up getting an HP Spectre x360 with pretty much the same specs at 40% of the price.

    6. Re:Still.. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      You can get a Lenovo Yoga that is more powerful with Windows 10 around that $800 price and it comes with a decent keyboard and other laptop features. The Surface gets expensive when you keep on adding on features to make it have laptop functionality.

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    7. Re:Still.. by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      That's... insane. I could build a top of the line gaming computer for that sort of cheese, peripherals included.

    8. Re: Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problem is it doesnt run osx or linux... so its crap...

    9. Re:Still.. by sexconker · · Score: 0

      The i5 barely handles flash video. Only the i7 has the "Iris Pro" GPU. The "Iris Pro" has full support for acceleration in media applications and has "good" (still shitty) performance in games. The i5 has "HD Graphics" which is now the shit tier for Intel's parts and has very little support and terrible performance. I'm running a newer i5 and it struggles to render 1080p flash video, takes about 3 seconds to dim the screen and display a Windows 7 UAC prompt. The options for tweaking/overclocking the GPU are locked out despite parts from the prior generation having them enabled. The modern i5's built-in GPU is ASS.

    10. Re:Still.. by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      I guess that gets the price of a surface pro 4 down from "insanely overpriced" to "absurdly overpriced".

      That's still a step down from "ludicrously overpriced".

    11. Re:Still.. by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Have fun hanging out at Starbucks with that gaming PC.
      The reason for those is to be seen using it, not for any real use case.

    12. Re:Still.. by Arkh89 · · Score: 1

      $ lscpu
      Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz

      No problem to render 1080p videos here, or to process high-res images with the GPU... but, I am not using Windows nor Flash.

    13. Re: Still.. by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      This. +1

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    14. Re:Still.. by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Informative

      The i5 barely handles flash video.

      And yet you're still wrong despite how "bad" it's performance is you can play flash media and content just fine on GPU bound systems as we have for the many years withing browsers and plugins which never supported hardware acceleration in the first place.

      . I'm running a newer i5 and it struggles to render 1080p flash video

      I on the other hand am running an ancient i5 with the HD Graphics chipset and have no problem playing a 4k Youtube clip in chrome, both standard Chrome, and with the Disable HTML5 extension which reverts everything to Flash, and the UAC prompts come up without issue. My girlfriend has exactly the machine you're complaining about (i5 SP4) and it's even faster than mine, certainly not slower. As mentioned above the shitty games performance is due to thermal throttling. The i7 doesn't fix that. It has shitty game performance none the less.

      Fix your computer instead of blaming everything on the hardware. Even in the low end models running normal Windows workloads is a very smooth experience on the Surface Pro machines providing you don't max out the RAM or force your CPU to thermally throttle.

    15. Re:Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've now described the Apple buying experience.

      STARTING PRICE $499
      OPERABLE PRICE, WITH ROOM TO GROW AND ACTUALLY BE OF USE $2599

    16. Re:Still.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's still a step down from "ludicrously overpriced".

      So they are no longer going to be running at plaid?

    17. Re:Still.. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Why not just connect through remote desktop to your powerful box at home?

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    18. Re:Still.. by sexconker · · Score: 0

      The older i5s have better support. Read my post or STFU. Try watching twitch.tv in Flash (their default) on a modern i5. Your CPU temps will skyrocket, you won't be able to composite shit on a second monitor, the stream will stutter to shit, etc.

    19. Re:Still.. by sexconker · · Score: 0

      Congrats, you have an older i5. Try a twitch.tv stream in Flash on a newer i5 (may I recommend saltybet?). The "HD Graphics" line is now the shit tier. it used ot be the higher tier. The higher tier has been rebranded. It is called "Iris Pro".

    20. Re:Still.. by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

      That is incorrect. Between the "newer" i5s and i7s, the only difference is an increase in the number of EUs and the inclusion of the Crystalwell EDRAM cache.

      The two systems have exactly the same video decoding capabilities, which are handled by the uncore, not the EUs themselves.

    21. Re:Still.. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Go read Intel's forums support forums. Performance is shit on the newer i5s. Many have accused them of gimping it via the drivers. They're buggy as hell, too.
      The 5000 and 6000 series processors have TRASH video on the i5s.

      https://communities.intel.com/...

      Go through a few pages and CTRL+F i5.

      I first began digging into this after struggling to get a triple display configuration working. The hardware has the bandwidth to run 3x1920x1080@60, but it's not officially supported on my 5th gen i5 while it was on my 4th gen i5. I was able to get it working with a specific driver, but the thing is turd slow. There's no reason it shouldn't work and work well - the GPU is better than the previous gen specwise in every way. But Intel is fucking shit over on the driver side.

      Mod me down all you want, clowns. I'm not the only one who knows that the newer i5s have gimped graphics.
      https://communities.intel.com/...

    22. Re:Still.. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I did it on the very Surface Pro 4 you're complaining about idiot. Go give your computer to someone who is capable of using it.

  2. Pretend Sales by minstrelmike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suspect that's the only way the're going to get rid of their out-dated Xboxes now.

  3. When you're behind... by blueshift_1 · · Score: 1

    That is one way to get their units sold closer to PS4.

  4. You're doing it wrong! by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

    This is counter-intuitive AF. Basically you're giving away a leisure tool with the purchase of a (mostly) productivity-bound tool. I like the deal, and the people will too, but education packages are supposed to give people an edge on, take a guess: education. If I was such a parent, I'd consider that deal, give the kid the Surface Pro, and keep the Xbox for me. Or maybe keep them both and tell him to use the facilities tuition pays for, so that he stays longer in the campus where he is not distracted by procrastination (as much...).

    1. Re:You're doing it wrong! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      It's rather decent, to the contrary. For that kind of money we used to get a desktop PC that was almost exclusively used for games and entertainment.

    2. Re:You're doing it wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd actually much rather see these kinds of deals than pretending students are going to all-education-all-the-time otherwise. My reasoning is because an absolute ton of college students these days going for these massive gaming laptops for school. Something like this could easily sway some people to get a device much better suited for college work, leaving the xbox for gaming.

      So in that respect, I think it's great.

    3. Re:You're doing it wrong! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      but education packages are supposed to give people an edge on, take a guess: education.

      I think it's well established that you:
      a) can't focus on studies 100% of the time without unwinding less you do your own head in.
      b) can't play games on a Surface Pro in any kind of comfortable way.

      I personally think this is a great combination as the fact that these "Slate" devices jump straight into thermal throttling when you load their CPU for more than about 20 seconds means about the only thing they can't do is play games or do video editing.

    4. Re:You're doing it wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is counter-intuitive AF. Basically you're giving away a leisure tool with the purchase of a (mostly) productivity-bound tool.

      All work and no play.....

      And the last time I was on campus, play was certainly happening.

    5. Re:You're doing it wrong! by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

      As someone who went through college with a gaming itch, an itch that lasts to this day (and it's been some years...), I can tell you the best time to foment gaming withdrawal is as soon as you get to college. The social, entertaining and educational aspects playing games can improve only go so far, and by the time you're applying for higher-ed, the only thing gaming is going to improve is your ability to postpone exercise, reading, studying, outdoor activities and socializing. The "twenty-something gamer" is one of the most overrated characteristics of the millennial generation. People are starting to accept that type as common, and it's not a good thing. It siphons money, time, in ways that resemble the good-ol TV couch-potato. The only reason people are replacing normal TV with games and timeshift TV (e.g. Netflix) is not because of the lack of commercials, but the lack of the News - they can finally sink in to the useless second-life only a game (be it single or multiplayer) can provide for a limited time until the new thing arrives. I know I'm advocating like a zealot for such as stupid topic, but it kinda hits a nerve when a for-profit company attempts to hijack the sacred ethics of human development in order to trigger that impulse-buy, yours, and your kids'.

  5. Some perverse incentives in effect at MS recently by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    Well the increasingly bizarre behavior out of Microsoft just keeps on coming. I am certain the cause is perverse incentives for a few high-ranking executives. They are told they need adoption numbers up, up, up and do what it takes to make it happen. Even if you need to make the Windows Update tool into malware. I used to look on the Update notifications as a necessary system freshener - now, I fearfully inspect the updates to make sure they won't screw up my working system. I have a laptop certified to work with Windows 8 and I'll be damned if I'm going to roll the dice with upgrade and see if everything works afterwards.

    I get the idea that this is due to Microsoft's culture. They are just so used to having a huge, monopolist's market share. Anything else looks horrid to them. We geeks always wanted to see how Microsoft would work when they actually had to compete instead of just stepping on everyone's air supply. Turns out, they suck at it. A few years ago I made the mistake of buying a Windows Phone (6.5) and boy that's a mistake I'll never make again.

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  6. Just resale one of the two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IE if you a student, just sale the XBox One for for $250 which makes the purchase price of the Surface even that much cheaper.

    Or, sell the Surface for $750 and then the XBox One only cost you $150.

    1. Re:Just resale one of the two by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      And as a "student," you would need to have money to buy them first before you can sell each or both...

    2. Re:Just resale one of the two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a student, I would hope you can spell the word "sell".

  7. I cant buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just tried to buy a bundle and when I click 'Add to cart', the page just reloads. So I guess nobody is buying this bundle.

    1. Re:I cant buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The deal is only running at Microsoft's retail stores in the United States.

      I wasn't aware that the store in your local shopping mall had an "Add to cart" button.

  8. Re:Some perverse incentives in effect at MS recent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few years ago I made the mistake of buying a Windows Phone (6.5) and boy that's a mistake I'll never make again.

    Windows Phone began with version 7. You must have its predecessor, Windows Mobile.

  9. microsoft giving away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two xbox one models then?

  10. Re:Some perverse incentives in effect at MS recent by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    Or it was Windows Phone 7.5

  11. Taking this at face value by zkiwi34 · · Score: 1

    Then why not skip the SP4/XBox and go for an iPad Pro, and a MacBook Air, with an NAS system for massive data storage.

    1. Re:Taking this at face value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but then you'd need to buy and use an Apple product. I'd rather use a Raspberry Pi as my main computer.

    2. Re: Taking this at face value by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      What can you do that has any similarity with what an XBox One is for using an iPad Pro or whichever Apple 'air' product you're talking about?

    3. Re: Taking this at face value by zkiwi34 · · Score: 1

      Something educational, which is not what Xbox is about.

  12. Re:Some perverse incentives in effect at MS recent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny. People complained that MS never changed, and it was just a boring old work company. They start doing weird things like... giving away an xbox with a surface pro purchase, and now they're just messed up or poorly-led or whatever. Meanwhile, no one cares that Apple basically does *nothing* new for 5 years at a time.

  13. Loophole? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Or, those fucking wankers at Microsoft could just take $300 off the Shitface and admit that the woozy piece of crap is way overpriced.

    At $1,499 to $3,199 it's significantly more than a whiz-bang laptop or a nicely outfitted Android tablet with some add-on goodies.

    And the best part is that you don't have to prance around the office like a hipster with brain damage to use it, either.

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  14. Stupid Headline Is Stupid by sootman · · Score: 1

    Great job of parroting the MS rep, The Verge. The ACTUAL story is "$300 off". Which... who gives a shit.

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  15. Re:Some perverse incentives in effect at MS recent by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

    Funny. People complained that MS never changed, and it was just a boring old work company. They start doing weird things like... giving away an xbox with a surface pro purchase, and now they're just messed up or poorly-led or whatever. Meanwhile, no one cares that Apple basically does *nothing* new for 5 years at a time.

    Are you being sarcastic??? If not, then you may need to understand that they are different situations. Never_changed != Does_nothing_new. Never change in the sense is to keep doing the way it is. It could be culture, behavior, etc. Does nothing new means there is no innovation of ideas or the way things work. Even though both situations can happen at the same time, they are still not the same. So why can't people make a complaint on just one and not the other?

    I guess "Well the increasingly bizarre behavior out of Microsoft just keeps on coming." from the parent means "never changed" in your sense which would be different from "does *nothing* new."

  16. Buy One Loser, Get One Free! by macs4all · · Score: 1

    So, the sales of Surface Pro 4s AND XBox 1's are BOTH so shitty that you have to COMBINE their "unit sales"?!?

    Or, the ONLY way you can get anyone to buy that overpriced POS Surface Pro 4 is to GIVE YOU a $300 toy to distract you???

    LOLOL!!!

  17. Free MALWARE is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both suck.

  18. More desperate by the day by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    It's fascinating to watch Microsoft become more and more desperate as people start to avoid them wholesale. It looks like Microsoft has finally pissed people off so much that they basically can't do *anything* anymore, because people won't buy what they sell.

    People will continue to buy Windows because they need computers, and those computers will most likely need Windows. Office has become synonymous with word processing and spreadsheets, so people buy that too because they don't really feel they have a choice.

    Every other things they make has collapsed. They've tried mobile several times now. Nobody will bite. Same with their mp3 players, their tablets, their gaming consoles... They haven't been able to gain traction on *anything* outside their core monopoly business. Or if they do, it's only temporary and it quickly dies off again.

    Their only real hope had been to basically hold out until the previous generation basically retired, and people forgot all their shenanigans of the past. But things like the Windows 10 shitshow have done an excellent job of demonstrating to an entirely new generation of people that they really haven't changed at all. They're still the same "We'll fuck you over at the earliest opportunity" bastards they've been since Bill Gates founded the company.

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