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Facebook Tweaks Its Newsfeed To Better Showcase Posts From Friends Instead Of Publishers (betanews.com)

Facebook announced on Wednesday that it is making some changes to its algorithm that powers the News Feed to better showcase posts from friends and family members over posts from publishers. Mark Wilson, writing for BetaNews:The problem we currently face, Facebook says, is that there is "far too much information for any one person to consume." This is where algorithms come into play, meddling with timelines and newsfeeds in ways that never please everyone. The latest change promises that content from "the friends you care about" will appear "higher up in your News Feed."The move comes as Facebook struggles to get people to interact and post more on its social network.

This is yet another blow to publishers that rely heavily on social media exposure. In recent years, Facebook has not only downranked stories that have misleading and unclear headlines but also cut the traffic it was once sending publishers' way. It is worth pointing out that these events have happened in the lights of Facebook launching its own publishing network called Instant Articles on the social media and encouraging publishers to directly publish on its platform instead of their respective websites.

43 comments

  1. The magic algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this the algorithm that can't show a single fucking thing in chronological order? Or is this the feature that, every couple days, decides to show a whole list of shit from a week ago?

    1. Re:The magic algorithm by drakaan · · Score: 2

      I would spend mod points on this AC post.

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    2. Re:The magic algorithm by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      The "chronological" page has its own URL which you can bookmark.

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    3. Re:The magic algorithm by blueshift_1 · · Score: 1

      Twitter?

    4. Re:The magic algorithm by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Why? You have doubts? Take a look for yourself. It's right there...

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    5. Re:The magic algorithm by originalGMC · · Score: 1

      The algorithm is built to provide maximum "nofuckery" ... after a certain period of time looking at the content it generates for you, you start to "give no fucks" about whatever is on the page and go do something else. Right?

    6. Re:The magic algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I prefer the feature which pesters you with push notifications on Chrome even after blocking the Facebook domain. Hence, me only ever using FB incognito now.

    7. Re:The magic algorithm by drakaan · · Score: 2

      Which would be great, if it would actually show posts in chronological order by post. It doesn't. It shows things in chronological order by last comment or some other ridiculous measure, ignoring the fact that facebook notifies you about replies and comments already, and always has.

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    8. Re:The magic algorithm by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Ah, ok, I see what you're saying. I'd ask for my money back then.

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    9. Re:The magic algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Is this the algorithm that can't show a single fucking thing in chronological order? Or is this the feature that, every couple days, decides to show a whole list of shit from a week ago?

      Yes.

    10. Re:The magic algorithm by drakaan · · Score: 1

      Oh, they gave me a full refund of $0.00, but I reserve the right to bitch about software that I use.

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    11. Re:The magic algorithm by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Well of course yo do! Whether anybody listens is totally up in the air though. I mean, basically you're shouting at psychopaths, so I don't know how far that will get you.

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    12. Re:The magic algorithm by drakaan · · Score: 1

      *sigh* Truer words were never spoken.

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    13. Re:The magic algorithm by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      ...basically you're shouting at psychopaths...

      Psychopaths and sociopaths are not the same thing. FB falls into the latter group.

      A psychopath gets pleasure from causing you pain - physical, emotional, financial or whatever.

      A sociopath just does not give a s%&t what happens to you as long as they get what they want. They do not get pleasure from hurting you but they are not worried by it and are ready for that at any time.

      FB does not specifically intend to spread your privacy from here to Antarctica but, if they can increase their bottom line by doing so, they don't seem to have a problem with it.

      Organisations who feel it is their specific task to destroy your privacy and feel satisfaction for having done so even when it of no specific benefit to them better fit the "psycho" description. They also exist.

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  2. More than you can possibly consume.... by djsmiley · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, only if you're following more people than you can possibly think about.

    Please, for the love of all things holy, show me _everything_ my friends post. Let me filter out which of them I don't want to see. Hell, I don't even mind if you stick an *obvious* advert in the middle of the damn list, just give it me _ALL_.

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    1. Re:More than you can possibly consume.... by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      No, only if you're following more people than you can possibly think about.

      Please, for the love of all things holy, show me _everything_ my friends post. Let me filter out which of them I don't want to see. Hell, I don't even mind if you stick an *obvious* advert in the middle of the damn list, just give it me _ALL_.

      Exactly. Why try to guess? Why not ask the user? I want to see everything person A posts, nothing person B posts, and only the most interesting things from person C's post. Oh, and give it to me in chronological order please. And while I'm making demands, what about allowing me to click on posts that I've seen so that I only see new posts. A message "no new posts" would be great to see. I wouldn't even mind an ad or two under it.

    2. Re:More than you can possibly consume.... by swb · · Score: 1

      Please, for the love of all things holy, show me _everything_ my friends post.

      They killed that off with various algorithm updates years ago and I doubt you'll ever see it come back. Facebook wants you to see what Facebook wants you to see, messages from your friends is merely the candy between sponsored messages that keeps you coming back.

      IMHO, the problem is people complain all the time about the randomness of what they see, so nobody is fooled by the algorithm, only annoyed by it.

    3. Re:More than you can possibly consume.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is when I stopped using Facebook. I was missing out on things I actually cared about, but got to see all of the bullshit reposted memes, antivaxxer nonsense and ads for shit I'd never use.

      That friend who had twins? Didn't see anything about it for two months.

    4. Re:More than you can possibly consume.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just create an Interests group that includes every single friend and page you want to see the feed of. You may not see everything that person posts on other people's walls, but it shows WAY more than you would get otherwise, and in chronological order.

  3. Simple Algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Rank is inversely proportional to posting frequency.

    Those who post often (friends or publishers) are saying inane and stupid things that I don't want to see.
    Yes, you're having ANOTHER sale on this model year car.
    Yes, you're eating ANOTHER peanut butter and jelly sandwhich.
    Ugh.

    Those who post rarely (friends or publishers) are often saying something I want to hear.
    Oh, my favorite author is doing a book signing for her latest book? Sweet!
    You're having a baby?? Wow! Congrats!
    (And even if they're saying something I don't want to hear, they post so infrequently that I don't care.)

    Implement this and Facebook can get another 3-5 years out of its dying platform.

    1. Re:Simple Algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work for trailer trash / ghetto people...

      You're having ANOTHER baby? That's 3 this month...

    2. Re:Simple Algorithm by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Amen, publishers are half as annoying as friends or family who post every exhale. The ones I'm thinking of have a million "friends" (read: people they met once, or their friends), have elevated visibility because one of those millions can be trolled in to liking one post or another on a consistent basis, and also use facebook to flog some idiotic business idea they have.

      You cannot "unlike" them, you have no way of moderating their posts down, and often you cannot "unfriend" them without dealing with the social fallout. So you get swamped by shit you don't like, and eventually stop using facebook.

    3. Re:Simple Algorithm by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2

      Amen, publishers are half as annoying as friends or family who post every exhale. The ones I'm thinking of have a million "friends" (read: people they met once, or their friends), have elevated visibility because one of those millions can be trolled in to liking one post or another on a consistent basis, and also use facebook to flog some idiotic business idea they have.

      You cannot "unlike" them, you have no way of moderating their posts down, and often you cannot "unfriend" them without dealing with the social fallout. So you get swamped by shit you don't like, and eventually stop using facebook.

      Huh? All you have to do is unfollow them.

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  4. in the lights and on the social media? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 2

    It is worth pointing out that these events have happened in the lights of Facebook launching its own publishing network called Instant Articles on the social media and encouraging publishers to directly publish on its platform instead of their respective websites.

    More interesting use of the English language...

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  5. Crazy idea, how about I choose. by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

    Instead of forcing FB's idea of what I can see, let me select my own views. How about these defaults, "friends", "family", "likes", "groups", "politics" and let me create other groups that include closed groups (which is currently not allowed). Its a form of censorship that FB pushes.

    I miss the days of newsgroups, select the group, easy to read. Also why I like reddit, just pick what I want.

    I remember everyone saying, facebook wont be around in 10 years, something better will come along. I'm still waiting, because facebook really does have the most horrible interface.

    1. Re:Crazy idea, how about I choose. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      I remember everyone saying, facebook wont be around in 10 years, something better will come along.

      I'm pretty sure there already is something better, just not as popular.

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    2. Re:Crazy idea, how about I choose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember everyone saying, facebook wont be around in 10 years, something better will come along. I'm still waiting, because facebook really does have the most horrible interface.

      Yup, FB's interface and constant fucking around with it is a pain in the backside.
      What really irks me is the fixed with columns. It's 2016 FFS, people have hires wide screen monitors, yet the actual news feed on my browser is a little strip taking up less than 25% of the screen, the rest is just wasted whitespace and shitloads of pointless scrolling.

      Have you tried FB Purity , it's not perfect but it helps cut down on the shit FB thinks you should see.

    3. Re:Crazy idea, how about I choose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of forcing FB's idea of what I can see, let me select my own views. How about these defaults, "friends", "family", "likes", "groups", "politics" and let me create other groups that include closed groups (which is currently not allowed). Its a form of censorship that FB pushes.

      I miss the days of newsgroups, select the group, easy to read. Also why I like reddit, just pick what I want.

      I remember everyone saying, facebook wont be around in 10 years, something better will come along. I'm still waiting, because facebook really does have the most horrible interface.

      Everything better than Facebook I know about already exists or once existed.
      I believe FB is only popular due to it coming around at the time when everyone wanted to be online for the first time. Now we're all so caught up in this one site, we don't think we can leave without being socially ostracized.

  6. Facebook Bubble is Annoying by brxndxn · · Score: 1

    Facebook keeps thinking it knows who my close friends are because it determines who I've been talking to through Facebook. So, my feed is constantly spammed by people I rarely talk to - except through Facebook - while I hardly see what my closest friends are up to. It's annoying. They really do need to fix their feed - and they need to quit giving spamsites so much priority. This is a step in the right direction - but I doubt it will be done in the way users want. Facebook got popular because it gave users control over their information, who got to see it, and who's information they saw. Now, it frustrates a lot of people because it's so full of spammy click garbage. There should be an 'only see original posts by friends' option and allow users to filter out some of the re-shared bullshit.

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  7. Crazier idea, how about no. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    I don't understand people like you. Facebook is not a democracy, you don't get to vote for your favorite features. You have placed shackles on yourself and decided to complain when your owner pulls on your chain.

    Why have you sold yourself to facebook?

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  8. hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "facebook aquires property rights and turn into a social network", was what I read.

  9. Suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is yet another blow to publishers that rely heavily on social media exposure.

    I think it's funny that so many publishers don't realize that they are in direct competition with Facebook.

    If you're in the media business, then every time you tell a user "follow me on Facebook," you're telling your clients, "Buy an ad from Facebook, not us. Facebook is where we're telling our audience to go."

    I work for a media and advertising company, and I know that if I wanted to reach my company's readers, I wouldn't buy an ad from my company. My company has been working hard for the last few years to convince me and everyone else, that I should buy an ad from Facebook instead. And it has worked: that's what I would do.

    The publishing industry isn't merely "in decline." It's in mid-suicide. Or murder-by-hyponosis, if you prefer.

  10. They still default to Top Stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When myself and over 90% of the planet always want most recent

  11. Interact? You can't! by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

    In the last two years there's been a steady increase in the prevalence of what I call voyeur posts. Items I can see but I can't either like (emote?) or comment on. I don't really care why that is, I'm much more interested in filtering it from my social media feed. There's no way to do that. So, Facebook, if you would like to increase my ability to "interact and post more" make it so my news feed is filled with things that I can, you know, interact with.

    *grumble*grumble*humperdinck-a-mumble*young*whippersnappers*grumble*off*my*lawn*

  12. Hurrah by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    Yay!!!! Even more moronic "Your posts could become public tomorrow" reposts and Brexit whining. I can hardly contain my excitement.

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  13. Re:Interact? You can't! by Whibla · · Score: 1

    I think this is because of the options set by the poster of the original 'story' you're seeing.

    If a post is Public, and you see it, there's no problem with emoting or posting.

    If a friend of yours emotes or comments on a post that's intended for friends only, and you are not a friend of the original poster you can now see the post, but are unable to emote or comment on it.

    The entire situation is further complicated by the custom privacy options, including exclusion lists (damn, did I just say that:-/ ).

    Disclaimer: The above is almost certainly a simplification. There's rather more important things to worry about than an inability to comment on a random Facebook post.

  14. That's the change by gabriellalustar · · Score: 0

    Great! I wonder how the companies manage to involve so many professionals and work on such complex projects! You should be really gifted. Usually, I try searching for single division: design or networking marketing. To find more narrowly-qualified specialists. However, it's clear for me now, that big companies provide wide knowledge. Have you heard about guys from http://www.networkmarketingtra... - they do miracles to your web-projects!

  15. I don't have any friends... by The+Gelf · · Score: 1

    ... you insensitive clod!

  16. If you don't have tons of "friends" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't have tons of "friends" on Facebook, everything you post get buried. :D
    So it is a popularity contest and I have choosen not to participate as I do not want hundreds of "friends" just to get likes that can elevate posts.
    I don't get the whole thing, what's in it for me in the end? What value does it add to my life?
    After having found old classmates and discovered that I have nothing in common with them anymore, I closed my account as I grew tired of it and failed to see what use it had.

  17. Re:Interact? You can't! by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

    Yes, your description is exactly the reason, but my point is that Facebook really has no room to complain about a lack of engagement when they've filled my feed with things I can't engage with. Give me a way to filter out the people who've declared they don't want me intruding on their echo chamber anyway.

    Disclaimer: The above is almost certainly a simplification. There's rather more important things to worry about than an inability to comment on a random Facebook post.

    Pshaw! Nothing is more important than telling someone you don't know that they are wrong, especially online.

  18. Re:Interact? You can't! by Whibla · · Score: 1

    Pshaw! Nothing is more important than telling someone you don't know that they are wrong, especially online.

    With respect, you could not be more wrong!

    Now, if you'll excuse me, my house is on fire, and I must get back to putting it out...