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China Bans the Use Of Social Media As a News Source
Mark Wilson, reporting for BetaNews:Continuing its control of the internet, China has announced that news outlets may not use social media as a source of news -- at least not without official approval. The Cyberspace Administration of China says that the move is part of a campaign to prevent the spread of rumors and fake stories, but most people will see it as the government continuing to flex its online muscles. To add weight to its reasoning, the regulator referred to a number of fake news stories that had originated and spread online. It's an interesting new code of conduct, particularly considering the Chinese government floods social media with fake stories of its own.
Censorship would mean I couldn't read your inane rambling at all, it just wouldn't be there. Moderation working as intended
Bring something worthwhile to the conversation of this extremely click-baity article
Who needs the department of education any way? Only centralists! Education must be regional. Let's close it.
You are so right. But sadly, slashdot censorship will mod you down.
They want us to be slaves of the FALLEN ANGEL who will COME AND WRITE HIS NUMBER on our foreheads if the US votes for crooked hillary.
China makes products cheaply in part because of skimping on workers' rights and providing better compensation. They also tend to practice industrial espionage.
I don't think we hate on China. We worry about our Chinese brothers/sisters and hope someday things will get better for them.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
At least if it went after them, the blacks would still have stayed slaves, so probably it would have prevented obama from becoming president. But we can't get everything!
Oh, that'll be great. Finally a president of the people, and not somebody controlled by corporate interests.
I don't know that I hate on China, but I never asked any company to make all our stuff there. I try to avoid Chinese made stuff esp. food wherever possible. In the West we have our share of problems, but it's sickening to see the exploitation, pollution, and other tragedies that seem to come from China almost daily. I'm glad they have some money now, and hope it gets them some real social progress.
Slashdot editors do have unlimited mod points.
Oh get off it. Since when has the content of the bourgeois press been directed by what "we" want?
The "free" press says what the bourgeoisie wants it to say.
Then it says that this is what "we" want.
Then pseudo-intellectuals elevate themselves by repeating this condescending, arrogant ideology that the mouthpieces of the CIA and Wall Street are the result of "public opinion" rather than its manufacturers.
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Oh well, maybe the Chinese people can just use social media for the news themselves, and bypass the middleman.
Eh, more censorship. Circumvention is all we need, not political grandstanding on its merits.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
And he'll be a president LOVED by GOD. GOD is a GOD of love. HIS gratitude will have NO BORDERS if America gets a border again.
I've wanted to buy made-in-America goods for a long time now, even if they're more expensive. But they're damn near impossible to find! The only option is buying artisanal goods, but they're often far more expensive than the Chinese-made goods, yet often aren't any better. Yes, I want a made-in-America belt for my pants, but when I can get one at Wal-Mart for $8 and an artisanal one that's nearly identical for $75, I'm going to have to go with the Wal-Mart one. There's no reason why a made-in-America pants belt should cost almost 10x that of the Chinese-made one. Yes, maybe the Chinese manufacturer pays less tax, lower wages, and has better economies of scale. Even then the price difference is far too large. The American artisan should be finding innovative ways to produce belts more efficiently, so they can be offered to consumers at a lower price.
GOD is a GOD of love, but if Hillary gets president, his WRATH will still destroy america.
These silky ACs keep forgetting to mention Micro$haft and Crapple sucks and Linux rules!
It's the only sure way to get modded up.
He'll show who is master in the world. Right now they are ripping us off. Mexico and china are the biggest offenders. Hillary wants this to continue, and she wants to expand it. That must not happen.
They will probably fire some of those employees that are paid to spread pro gov't BS.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
Unfortunately American's have only themselves to blame for China. We have become so dependent on China for goods that it's now China who commands the world direction. 8 years of Obama asleep at the wheel has not help matters, and his trade deals do nothing to get back power to the US. Trump claims some foolish tariffs that will do nothing but invoke a more powerful reaction from China. Let's face it, the time to fight China on their human and social behavior has past. The US has no power which seems to have been Obama's goal all along.
It's kinda funny that you'd go to the trouble of sitting and waiting for articles to appear just so you can post this shit at the top, though. Seeing as you're so clever and all. ;)
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
The Chinese government likes it's own fake news, just not other people's. They are hardly unique in this respect; power always finds a way to justify it's own behaviour. But those other people, over there? Why that's fake news, terrible!
With him, we'll start winning again. We don't win as a nation. Its about time for him to become president.
Obama isn't no real american anyway. He just faked his birth certificate.
Just anecdotally there's been a seriously offensive uptick in trolling on Slashdot today - I wonder if that's related. I haven't modded this article but did others. Whilst most I modded were positive contributions, there was a whole lot of junk at the beginning which (in my view) needed to be lost. I see people have 'graced' us with such a thread in this article too.
Slashdot editors do have unlimited mod points.
Yes but usually they spend their hours doing text searches for the n-word to mod that down. I should know - I've made tons of those posts! Got to keep them on their toes after all.
Sincerely,
Anonymous Coward
Banning social media is a good first step. We need to ban anonymity as well because it harms our nation, and helps those who want to destroy it, like the democrats.
And we must ban the dishonest media as well. They are spreading their cursed lies and bewitch the people.
After all, he was chosen by jesus for this holy task to be president.
I would be VERY interested in knowing if their posts are actually being blocked or deleted. That should not be tolerated, no matter how many people are triggered.
Pull the triggers Niggers
We're with you all the way
Right across the bay...
Because the ruling class and working class are different things with different goals?
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It is censorship. Comments are being suppressed, which is a form of censorship. I won't pretend that all censorship is inherently bad, but it is taking place here. And it really is a problem.
If you post as an AC, it takes a single downmod to be at -1. It doesn't mean that your post is unacceptable to Slashdot, as a whole. Rather, one user disliked your post and was able to put it at -1. That means a lot of users will never see the post and the moderation, if unjust, may never be undone. Furthermore, editors have unlimited mod points and can moderate a single post many times. There's no way to tell how often a post has been moderated or who is doing it.
Moderation also affects your ability to post. If you're logged in and your karma gers low enough, you post at -1 but can only post twice a day. It also affects your ability to moderate. In other words, it greatly affects your ability to participate in the system.
If a single user can very quickly moderate a post to -1, it makes it pretty unlikely that many people will see the post. Also, while its justifiable to censor off-topic posts, flames, and comments with patently false information, a lot of comments also get modded down because they're disagreeable with the prevailing point of view.
The system isn't very good at highlighting good posts. It is, however, very effective at promoting groupthink and suppressing opposing points of view.
When can the west follow suit? Speaking of, why do we even go to news sites anymore when all they do is post screenshots of someone's tweet?
Sorry, this is the *New and Improved* politically correct "Slashdot"(The original is dead). What is important now is to verify if comments are actually being deleted. This will mark the official downfall of one of the last great uncensored web forums on the planet.
What choice you apologist?
Choice implies an alternative.
The alternative necessarily lies outside the ideal, imaginary realm of "discourse." It is a matter of class struggle.
The workers are making their choice, but it will not be free or "popular" until they prevail over the class enemy, whose weapons against this "choice" are not limited to newsprint, but also include prisons, aircraft carriers, and atom bombs.
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I don't think we hate on China. We worry about our Chinese brothers/sisters and hope someday things will get better for them.
Right. In all the nationalism and flag-waving that is often displayed on the 4th of July, it's important to remember the difference between a government and that nation's people.
One can despise the government of China while wanting the best for the people of China. It's the same way I feel about the USA. The US government is a cancer spreading out of control, but I bear no animosity towards American folk. They're the first victims of it.
Hiding posts from view of most users...
Viewers' choice! They can set the desired threshold. So you are wrong...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Just anecdotally there's been a seriously offensive uptick in trolling on Slashdot today - I wonder if that's related.
Were you around long enough to remember what this site was like when CmdrTaco/Rob Malda ran it? Remember when the Slashdot Effect was a thing? That was much better.
What you're seeing with the increase in trolling ... it's just a natural response to the increase in clickbait stories, the so-called SJW pieces, the decline in editorial quality, the lack of restraint of editors with their infinite modpoints, and the overall increasingly visible corporate nature of the site. If its owners want to treat the site like a whore and abandon the pretense of having any standards to drive page views and make a quick buck, okay, that's their decision, but they can't reasonably expect the users to respect it any more than they do.
When can the west follow suit? Speaking of, why do we even go to news sites anymore when all they do is post screenshots of someone's tweet?
I've often wondered whether someone could "prank" the news media or the police by posting a false twitter feed or video or something.
For example, we see police arresting people for video'ing themselves drunk driving. I wonder if someone could post a video of this, let the police arrest them, then show that it was done on a stage and show a video of the scene being taped. YouTube videos are not evidence by themselves.
Or another example, suppose someone ran a half-dozen twitter accounts with mundane posts generated from bots - simple stuff like "let's go for dinner" and so on. Have them follow each other as if they were friends.
Then, 6 months later, post a video of a burning factory, and have tweets such as "OMG, the police just came to my door, they're evacuating everyone!". Maybe post a fake newscast video which shows the local TV station reporting about a massive fire in a factory that might release toxic chemical gasses or whatnot.
Is it possible is it to prank the major news outlets and get national coverage for an event that doesn't exist?
Is it possible to prank the police to get a trial for an event that didn't exist?
Is it possible to get legislation passed to address an issue that doesn't exist?
(That last one almost happened.)
I literally cringe every time some American news network cites a social media source or turns to some "reporter" to see what they're saying about whatever on Twitter.
Seriously; Fuck that navel gazing drivel straight in the ass. I want news, factual reporting of events, and I don't care what @CockGobbler thinks or posts.
China bans the modern world... again... for the umpteenth time since, oh... 2000 BC...
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
It is censorship. Comments are being suppressed, which is a form of censorship. I won't pretend that all censorship is inherently bad, but it is taking place here. And it really is a problem.
If you post as an AC, it takes a single downmod to be at -1. It doesn't mean that your post is unacceptable to Slashdot, as a whole. Rather, one user disliked your post and was able to put it at -1. That means a lot of users will never see the post and the moderation, if unjust, may never be undone. Furthermore, editors have unlimited mod points and can moderate a single post many times. There's no way to tell how often a post has been moderated or who is doing it.
Moderation also affects your ability to post. If you're logged in and your karma gers low enough, you post at -1 but can only post twice a day. It also affects your ability to moderate. In other words, it greatly affects your ability to participate in the system.
If a single user can very quickly moderate a post to -1, it makes it pretty unlikely that many people will see the post. Also, while its justifiable to censor off-topic posts, flames, and comments with patently false information, a lot of comments also get modded down because they're disagreeable with the prevailing point of view.
The system isn't very good at highlighting good posts. It is, however, very effective at promoting groupthink and suppressing opposing points of view.
I have been moderating at Slashdot for years, and in that time, I have browsed countless 0 and -1 posts. Most of that is complete and utter crap. If you want to post on how evil black people are, if you want to spam every page with comments on "those republicans are evil", "she did it again", "obama wants to kill black people", then YES, you should go to -1, because that is absolute garbage that contributes absolutely nothing. Almost all of the good and insightful posts at 0 eventually wind up at score 5, even though it takes longer, which it should - if you're not willing to lend your words a reputation, then yeah, they have to get by purely on content, which will require you to appeal to whatever the kind of person who reads at 0 is in hopes that they mod you up. If you really want to lend substance to your posts, then you post with a name, because then you actually have some form of punishment for trolling. As to that, trolling itself on Slashdot is absolutely ridiculous these days; some asshole loser, with waaaaaaaaa too much time on her hands floods every story with complete garbage, and it's getting longer and longer. So yeah, it will get modded down, because nobody wants to see it; we can only hope at some point she realizes what a stupid and pointless endeavor it is.
Furthermore, the system of karma works exactly as it's supposed to. If you take up a side in a debate or whatever, you'll almost always get modded up by both sides if you can actually make decent and coherent points. When you write "stup4d obama he against allz de Trumpz", you are just as likely to get modded down as if you wrote s/obama/cruz. If you have been modded down so incredibly often that you have -1 and can only post twice a day, well, maybe you should rethink what you're writing. If 99.99% of people hate it, then just maybe there's something wrong with it - I find it hard to believe someone is so incredibly special that we all immediately, all 99.99% of us, vote down their posts because we're so dumb we don't see the enlightenment in the above. For example, if you flood the story with a bunch of stupid political posts that have absolutely no relation or bearing with the story.
Third, moderation never deletes a post, only hides it. If you are genuinely confident in what you've written, then obviously that's not a problem; you know that anyone who wants to here your side of the story can easily find it by searching at 0. If your genuine goal is to contribute something, then you're obviously focusing on writing good content and not on how high you ca
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
I was in the first 12k users, though annoyingly have lost my password for that account. Yes, have been here for a long time. It's not a natural response - in fact it feels a lot more like the style of other sites leaking in. I'm also on Reddit where you more or less expect this kind of stuff and take the bad with the good, but Slashdot's comments used to not suffer quite so badly from this kind of stuff.
Have just checked - first 14k users, not 12k. I periodically try to recover the account (which doesn't even have a post against it) but without knowing exactly which email I registered it to I can't really prove it's mine. Irritating.
Nothing another "Opium War" can't fix..
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Only reason any government would do this is if they have a lot to hide. I wonder when the lid of secrecy will be blown wide open (much like what happened to several shady organizations with the Panama papers). They can't hide their dirty secrets forever ;).
I can't speak for the other trolls, but I'll tell you why I post garbage to Slashdot.
I do consider moderation to be censorship. It's frustrating to write a well-intentioned and thought out post, only to have it quickly modded down. It doesn't mean that the post was bad, but rather that, if it's an AC post, a single user didn't like it. Slashdot tends to be an echo chamber, and posts that don't go along with the prevailing views tend to be modded down.
Moderation is mostly useless. Whether a post gets modded down or up depends on a tiny subset of users, and often it's whichever single user gets to moderate the post first. And that first moderation is fairly random, based on the preferences of that user and not really the quality of the post. Metamoderation is supposed to weed out bad moderators but that clearly isn't happening.
Basically, I've made a lot of well-intentioned and thoughtful posts that got slapped to -1 that I don't even try anymore. I post junk as a protest to what Slashdot has become.
I'm also dissatisfied with the editors. When Slashdot was purchased from Dice, whipslash made a LOT of promises and almost none of them have been kept. Instead of remaining civil with users and participating actively, it seems like he only shows up once in awhile to make rude comments toward users who complain about the site.
I've been around for a long time and I really enjoyed Slashdot at one time. I keep hoping that Slashdot will go back to the way it once was, but that seems less and less likely. Nonetheless, I try to protest against what it's become, which is why I've been posting about moderation being censorship and things like that.
The working class want to enjoy a comfortably, materialistic lifestyle on their limited resources, and so demand low-cost manufactured goods. The ruling class seeks to increase their wealth by selling to the working class at a margin. Both of these goals are served by importing from China.
You should look into creating an account if you actually care. Anon posts start lower in the first place and should bypass the metamod system. You can also adjust your threshold to view negative scored posts and your post starting scores can increase once you build karma. .
But if you cannot even log in, I have little sympathy.
Sourcing news from Facebook is not journalism. If it requires a government ban, then the journos are a bit stupid. What happened to "verify your story from 3 independent sources"?
Yes we cannot let China and Mexico continue to work the most corrupt award. Even more there are countries beating us at most oppressive. Fuhrer Trump will set us on the righteous path to the rapture.
"it's important to remember the difference between a government and that nation's people."
I used to think that too, until Hillary and Trump became our Presidential choices. Now im convinced people get the government they deserve. There is no line between the people and the government, its an excuse, nothing more.
Yup. Non-anonymous posts from posters with decent karma (which you can get quite fast) start at +2. That means it takes more than just one moderator to remove them from view. Now, if you upset 3 moderators, you probably deserved it. I browse at -1 and it's a cesspool.
Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
Israel just wants Facebook to police itself and remove stuff Israel finds offensive. It does not want to any news source like China, just the ones it don't agree with
Right. In all the nationalism and flag-waving that is often displayed on the 4th of July,
There's a difference between "I like my country" and "I want to conquer other countries." One of those is good, and one of those is problematic.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
What will modern newspapers do to fill the space if they implement this in the UK?
No need to pay for investigative journalists when you can simply pay some eager young work experience person to scan Twitter, add some commentary and serve it up on the front page (make sure you add lots of pictures). That's the state of journalism in the 21st century.
In general I don't believe the majority of westerners harbor any discontentment with Chinese people, or China as a country (awesome history, culture, food, etc...). The government on the other hand is a bit worrisome.
Slashdot has been moderated since times unmemorable. If you think moderation is censorship and useless and bad, why don't you just go to Usenet?
I'm getting really tired of the so-called 'news' reporting on what Twitter users think.
Posted by an Anonymous Coward.
But how will you vote on an anonymous post if you can't see it?
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