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Baton Rouge Police Database Hacked In Retaliation For Killing of Alton Sterling (dailydot.com)
Patrick O'Neill quotes a report from The Daily Dot: Just days after the fatal shooting of a black man by Baton Rouge police prompted international outrage and a Justice Department investigation, the Baton Rouge city government's servers have been hacked and 50,000 city police records leaked including names, addresses, emails, and phone numbers. A hacker that goes by the name @ox2Taylor claimed responsibility for the breach, which was confirmed by security intelligence analyst at Patch Penguin, Jamie-Luke Woodruff. He told the Daily Dot that the administrators of the website had failed to implement proper security measures. When the hacker first announced the hack, he accompanied the tweet with three hashtags revealing the motivation: #AltonSterling, #Hacked, and #BlackLivesMatters. "The reason i did it is because of what that officer did to alton sterling," Taylor told the Daily Dot in a private message. "i'm sick of seeing police abuse their power and all the killings."
Anyone can waive the right to a jury trial and have a judge instead. Read a fucking book.
It's targeting 49,900+ people who had little or nothing to do with the event, and the vast majority of whom are most likely sympathetic to the existence of a serious cultural problem that needs to be addressed, and would like to see that problem get better.
There are many potential ways to improve the situation, few of them fast or easy. I fail to see how this is one of those ways. Doxing the front desk lady and the janitor doesn't do much to prevent the next such event. All it does is create an even deeper culture of mutual antagonism and distrust... which is sort of the whole problem to begin with.
Other police forces have been making dents in this problem through increased social contact between the police officers and supervisors, and the local populace. Once you've had a burger with someone, it's a lot harder to shoot them in the back. Once you've sat down to talk to a local store owner about the problems they face running their shop, it's easier to want to help them.
Police kill far more innocent civilians than civilians kill police. 42 police were killed by civilians in 2015. 1,134 people were killed by police. Of them, about 1/5 actually fired at the police.... And at the other end lf the spectrum 1/5th werent armed at all. The problem is their training. They're being trained to shidt all the risk off of themselves and onto the public. Protect themselves above all else. That's just not the mentality a poloce officer needs to have.
let them hang together.
Ah yes, collective guilt.
All Muslims are terrorists.
All gun owners are murderers.
All computer gamers are anti-social psychopaths.
It might surprise you to learn that there are plenty of good, non-racist cops just trying to help their local communities. Are there also racist and power-tripping ones? Yes, plenty of them too, and there is a big problem due to the power they wield over the people. But painting everyone with the same brush leads to the kind of racism that leads to these shootings to begin with, or led to lots of very nasty events in human history. It's the same mentality, applied to a different target.
Cops are individuals. There are good ones and bad ones, and they have good days and bad days. Their lives are often at risk. Sometimes they do heroic things, sometimes they do horrific things. You cannot solve problems like this by painting with too wide a brush.
None of which justifies his murder by police. Yet another example of unjustified shooting by US police.
The man was pinned to the ground and incapable of anything more than a token fight.
I disagree.
If you read the story, Mr. Sterling had been stunned twice and *was still standing.* Wow! That guy is a tank! So the officers physically took him down. One officer pinned Mr. Sterling's left arm, while the other officer was unable to pin his right arm because of the car in the way. From the store's video camera view, we see that Mr. Sterling's right arm was reaching down to his side. After the shooting, the police remove a gun from his right side.
So I see:
* Man refuses to stand down when verbally asked.
* Man stands-up to two stuns.
* Man is still struggling after being pinned to the ground.
We can stop here: at this point, they might well legally be able to shoot him. They have exhausted all other options. What else could they do? Stun him 50 more times? Hope another officer arrives and that 3 people can take him down? I'm seriously interested in hearing what the next escalation level is that doesn't involve a gun.
* Man has a gun.
I am no lawyer, but I am pretty confident that NOW they can shoot him. At this point, even if he laughed and said "Sorry guys, I just was messing around, let me up and we can chat about this" they might still be room to shoot him. He demonstrated that he is willing to use force, that he is strong as hell, and he isn't giving up. Now he has a deadly weapon too?
* Man is reaching for a gun.
No brainer. Done.
I don't know enough about this particular event to have a full opinion, the initial video did not show the whole story, the second video doesn't tell the whole story. Apparently, Alton flashed a gun and threatened a homeless man, police were called and Alton was armed. Alton resisted arrest and while wrestling with him still resisting, Alton reached for the concealed firearm and was subsequently shot dead. I watched both videos, Alton was clearly not cooperating and although he was on his back both officers (not small men by any standard) were struggling to get him rolled over and cuffed and Alton was not having any part of it.
Perhaps you should watch the videos again. From the second one, the officer that's closer to the camera - the same officer that pulled his gun, pointed it at Alton's chest, and shot him at point blank range - was kneeling on Alton's left arm. You can see Alton's left hand past the officer, fingers spread.
Now let me just ask you an objective question: when one officer is kneeling on his arm so that he can't move how is it Alton's fault that he can't roll over?
As a follow-up question, shouldn't the officer kneeling on his arm realize that he's kneeling on his arm (it was clearly intentional), and therefore not shoot him for "not having any part" of being rolled over?
You'll notice, I hope, that these two questions can be answered with a simple understanding of physics, and not require any inferences about whether he was "clearly" cooperating or not.
All Alton had to do was kneel and put his hands on his head and keep his mouth shut. Tell the officers he is indeed armed and where the firearm is located. Allow the officers to cuff him and remove the firearm for the officers own safety. If Alton is a legal concealed carry permit holder he would know these things.
A legal concealed carry permit holder tried that in Minnesota last night. He's dead now. Need it also be mentioned that he was black?
The other recent shooting in Minneapolis was due to a frightened officer who panic'd. That was a truly tragic event, it never should have happened. The car was pulled over for a broken tail light. The driver was asked to produce his license and registration which is standard procedure. He correctly informed the officer that he was a concealed carry permit holder and he was armed. At this point the officer drew his weapon, again, standard operating procedure. What happened next is the bad part. The victim was complying but there was some form of communication breakdown and he reached to get his wallet and the officer shot him four times. This all took place in mere seconds. You never ever take your hands off the steering wheel and do not make any sudden movements!
I see... On the one hand, it was the victim's fault for not complying. On the other hand, it was the victim's fault for complying too quickly. Regardless, it never is the police's fault - either they were acting properly, or it was a "truly tragic event (that was still the victim's fault)".
I don't need to delve into your masturbatory fantasy about how traffic stops go for white people, but I do want to address this:
It's about respect not about an officers authority.
Your badge does not entitle you to free respect. In fact, nothing entitles you to free respect. And if you feel that someone is being "disrespectful" to you, so therefore you should get to kill them with impunity, then you are the one who should be sucking on that barrel, not them. We have the right, as Americans, to tell the officer to give us the ticket or whatever else they want and then fuck off back to the fuckstation and eat their glazed fucknoughts with their fuckbuddies in blue. Disrespectful? Sure. A crime worthy of instant execution? Fuck you.
Agreed. What people don't seem to understand is that pro-2nd amendment people do not think that their AR-15s (by the way, not an "assault rifle") will be able to hold off the military. The military has tanks, drones, and nukes. However, they're not going to use that stuff on their own soil unless the shit really hit the fan. If they did that, there would be little to nothing left for a tyrannical government to govern.
What the 2nd does do, is keep things like police-state door-to-door roundups and executions from happening. They won't do that if they know people can and will shoot back. We've already seen in the middle east (and before) how a giant and well-armed military can be held back by a small and determined group of fighters. At the end of the day, even for all the technology, wars are still won by men on the ground with rifles. (Shotguns and handguns don't cut it, they aren't effective over long distances, and most real life battles take place over 100+ yards, not in Call of Duty-esq tiny maps.)
On another note, I find it interesting that we keep hearing in the news about this previously convicted sex offender who was illegally armed, had drugs, and was resisting arrest. Yet we don't hear so much about this poor fellow. Probably because he had his CC license and legal gun, and was lawfully exercising his constitutional right. If you ask me, this instance is much more indicative of racism in the police than Alton Sterling. Curious that the media drums up sympathy for the black criminal, but not the black responsibly and legally armed citizen.
The AR-15 isn't an assault rifle? What do you think the AR stands for, Einstein? Assault Rifle model 15 is what it stands for but don't let names screw with ya. I'm 100% certain that you didn't comment in any of the Tesla threads bitching about them using the name "autopilot", now did you? Unpossible!
On the off chance that this isn't a troll, Google is your friend, I am not. The AR stands for Armalite, the company that designed the rifle. The 15 is just the type. There is also an AR-5 (smaller caliber), AR-17 (shotgun), and an AR-23 (pistol). If AR stood for "assault rifle", why would it be used in the case of the AR-17/23 which are not rifles? Do some research, you sub-average cretin.