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FBI Director: Guccifer Admitted He Lied About Hacking Hillary Clinton's Email (dailydot.com)

blottsie writes from a report via The Daily Dot: The Romanian hacker known as Guccifer (real name Marcel Lehel Lazar) admitted to the FBI that he lied to the public when he said he repeatedly hacked into Hillary Clinton's email server in 2013. FBI Director James Comey testified before members on Congress on Thursday that Guccifer never hacked into Clinton's servers and in fact admitted that he lied. Lazar told Fox News and NBC News in May 2016 about his alleged hacking. Despite offering no proof, the claim caused a huge stir, including making headline news on some of America's biggest publications, which offered little skepticism of his claims. "Can you confirm that Guccifer never gained access to her server?" asked Texas Republican Rep. Blake Farenthold. "He did not. He admitted that was a lie," Comey replied. Lazar is currently imprisoned in Alexandria, Virginia, following his extradition from Romania.

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  1. Of course he did. by ravenshrike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Was this before or after you offered him a better plea deal Mr. Comey?

    1. Re:Of course he did. by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, it was quite clear. The FBI asked him simply "Did you hack Hillary's Email? If you did it is another crime that we will charge you with. If you say that you didn't then we are not going to charge you with that, since we would rather say that you didn't. So did you?"

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    2. Re:Of course he did. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Oh, it was quite clear. The FBI asked him simply "Did you hack Hillary's Email? If you did it is another crime that we will charge you with. If you say that you didn't then we are not going to charge you with that, since we would rather say that you didn't. So did you?"

      Irony of ironies: the hacker who lied about hacking Liar Hillary!'s emails is in jail for lying.

      Liar Hillary!, who lied under oath to Congress about those same emails, is free with a bunch of apologists dismissing her crooked behavior.

      One wonders how many Liar Hillary! apologists ran around last decade spouting "BOOOSH LIED!!!!!"

  2. It's your turn, Mr Assange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would the last asshole claiming to have dirt on Hillary please present your evidence or kindly go fist yourself? I'm no fan of hers but I'm sick of these gutter sniping little shiats trying to play the kingslayer.

    1. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Republicans need someone to blame for the fact that they chose a self-aggrandizing Nazi as their Presidential candidate. They got so used to blaming the Clintons 20 years ago, why not continue now?

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    2. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The biggest problem the republicans have with trump is that he is too left for them in some points.

      The biggest problem Republicans have with Trump is that he's a blathering idiot. "Article 12" of the Constitution? Really?

      http://www.redstate.com/brando...

      That's from a conservative Republican website, by the way.

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    3. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by hackwrench · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's from a conservative Republican website, by the way.

      Which of course means that they will sensationalize minor gaffes of people they don't like... like Trump. Getting numbers wrong that enumerate things is really quite minor. The article also points out that he misremembered which book of the Bible he wanted to cite. I've done that quite a number of times. It's really no big deal. If these are the sorts of things they want to try to make hay out of, they really should be working harder.

    4. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is there any level of stupidity that will finally convince the man is a simpering retard?

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    5. Re: It's your turn, Mr Assange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here's the thing: unless you're a constitutional scholar or some subset of mnemonist, why would anyone, including the president, need to know what article 2 is? Why not just say "legislative branch"? Because he had an axe to grind.

      Trump is ostensibly a businessman, and given the...well, benefit of the doubt...he maybe knows things about his field of interest that a bunch of legislators do not. Lawyers are important in the lawmaking and interpretation process, but these offices are choked full of lawyers. We really need other professionals to rise to the occasion, and how many will when faced with tons of lawyer demagoguery?

    6. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here come the apologists and lemmings. Most things are pretty straight forward and there is not a conspiracy. However, there is a very clear conspiracy here to the point that it's hardly a conspiracy -- it's just a crime being allowed and enabled.

      Whether or not Guccifer hacked Hillary Clinton's server is irrelevant to the fact that she committed a significant crime, repeatedly, and for many years in an effort to coverup -- at best -- private dealings. It was an insecure server left in a bathroom hidden solely through obscurity. The fact that it knowingly stored or could store assumably classified information is itself an actual crime (gross negligence, again at best). The only difference between the FBI Director's terminology of "extremely careless" (as he said) versus "gross negligence" is legality.

      From the redacted emails that have been released, there have been numerous signs of separate crimes being committed surrounding both gross negligence and willful acts, including where she told her subordinates to remove origination headers, which implies classification (a crime to remove and separately to order others to do it), to send via fax (a separate crime). The same people that have been willfully blocking the investigation (yet another crime) assured the public that this was not classified content.

      I realize that Slashdot is not as technical as it was when I started reading it (get off my lawn...), but I hope that people with a shred of technical awareness can understand the scariness of that approach. Compound it with the fact that Hillary and her attorneys alone decided what emails were handed over to the investigators, plus whatever they managed to find on their own. A statistical look at the released emails shows a very likely pattern of hiding, but again, nothing to see here.

      That last part should strike a nerve too. The simple fact is that it is not up to a person to decide that they control the public record, and it was proven by the FBI that she lied and did not hand over all of the work emails because they found more through their own investigations, yet she has been outspoken and signed documents claiming that she turned over all work emails. That's also a crime. Oh, and the email server was used earlier than she's on the record claiming to have used it.

      Yet, somehow, "no prosecutor" would prosecute this case. It probably had nothing to do with Bill Clinton meeting up with Attorney General Lynch days before the announcement.

      The only thing that we saw from this is that Hillary Clinton is truly above the law. And apparently we all can be too, if we just decide to delete everything before we hand it over and then call everyone a liar as they slowly find evidence of other information. If you're lucky, they won't be able to find enough to prove you wrong (and call you on obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence). Or, as other conspiracies (true or not) have shown, just take a hammer to the hard drive and say "oops".

    7. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As compared to the president who thought there was 52 states?

      Anybody who has been on stage in front of a lot of people will tell you that you WILL fuck up, especially if you are not reading off of a teleprompter or cue cards. You will trip over your own tongue, get numbers mixed up, hell we had a president that any time someone pointed a camera at him would trip over his own feet.

      I'm more worried about their actions than the occasional gaff, and Hillary having her hubby meet the AG on the tarmac and letting her know that she could keep her cushy job if she played ball (You don't REALLY think he spent an hour waiting on a runway for her so they could talk about grandkids, do ya?) which led to just 2 days later the head of the FBI making it clear she broke dozens of laws...but that didn't matter cuz Hillary? Yeah I wouldn't elect that woman dog catcher, much less POTUS.

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    8. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by tburkhol · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is there any level of stupidity that will finally convince the man is a simpering retard?

      Trump's use of language is pretty amazing. He manages to come across as so sloppy in his selection of wrong words that his supporters can think, "He didn't really mean that, literally." It gives them license to imagine that Trump "really" meant whatever is in that supporter's own head. So, when Trump detractors see him make racist, economically irrational, or politically naive statements, his fans get to hear exactly what they want to hear.

      I have no idea if he's doing this intentionally or if it's an accident of his 6th-grade vocabulary, but it's fascinating. If the PR people can figure out how he does it, I have no doubt that we'll see a new wave of politicians replacing the old-style non-statement with Trump-style reverse-projection.

    9. Re:It's your turn, Mr Assange by Jawnn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Troll? Seriously? Look, I will stipulate that Hillary and her people did a poor job of handling sensitive communications IF you Republican fan-boy asshats will acknowledge that poor security practices are the norm in most federal agencies, including the State Department during this administration and the previous one.
      Agreed? Fine. Let's move on.

      So I guess we really are left with nothing but a party that is desperate to deflect attention away from the colossal embarrassment that is their presumptive nominee for president. Y'all really should hope that Hillary wins, because the damage that your boy will do the Republican brand if he actually gets elected will make your current discomfort look like the good old days. But hey, if the NRA likes him, it must be safe to support him. Right?

  3. So why is he in jail? by Proudrooster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If his big hack of Hilary was a lie, why is he in jail? Shouldn't you let him go home? No crime, no felony, no jail. At least that is how it is supposed to work.

  4. Re:FBI by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

    something about a blowjob

    I think you mean that history will remember an extremely hypocritical and self-effacing reversal by the 'progressive' Feminist community on the matter of sexual harassment in the workplace. An enabling First Lady who actively worked to strike down and discredit the female victims of her husband. Said First Lady attempting to become a figurehead for the Feminist movement in the form of the First Woman President.

    It's so weird that if, say, a Gloria Steinem feminist in 1975 was asked if it could come to be, they'd say you were out of your fucking mind.

    But anyways. It doesn't matter. It's Hillary's turn to be nominated.

  5. Re:Is it just me by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Republicans have a bad habit of overbidding their hand.

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  6. Largely irrelevant by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let me put it this way since this has become so heavily politicized people are having trouble thinking about it objectively.

    Say you had your bank account login details, passwords, and credit cards stored on a password service like LastPass which is supposed to store it securely, and you later learned they weren't securing it at all and in fact were storing all your sensitive info in cleartext. Would you be satisfied and let the company off the hook if they claimed "but it's ok - no harm was done since we weren't hacked"?

    The problem isn't whether or not that info was hacked. The problem is that sensitive info which was supposed to be handled securely was not. The only difference actually being hacked makes is a hypothetical outcome vs a real outcome, and is largely irrelevant. It just means you got lucky and dodged a bullet; it does not validate or excuse how that info was mishandled. This is like a 5-year old who runs across a busy street instead of waiting with you for the light to change, and when you berate him for not staying by your side and waiting until it was safe says, "but I made it across OK" as if that somehow justifies his behavior.

    1. Re:Largely irrelevant by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > The problem is that sensitive info which was supposed to be handled securely was not.

      This was universal. The government has shown itself incapable of securely hosting email several times. I haven't seen any credible evidence that the email server everyone is calling insecure is any less or more secure than any other email server of the time.

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  7. Crooked Hillary by mi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    millions of my tax money to uncover a blowjob

    Now, for the umpteenth time, that was spent to prove, Clinton lied under oath. The proof was successfully secured and Clinton was punished for that perjury.

    claiming that the FBI is an integral part of the conspiracy

    You aren't citing any such claims, so they probably have not been made. It is quite obvious, however, that FBI was leaned on — likely by the White House.

    you hate Hillary, so she needs to go to jail.

    She needs to go to jail for mishandling classified information. FBI's report stated, she did it — suck it up, cupcake, while the rest of us are sucking up the sorry reality, that laws are for "little people".

    And that Benghazi was the worst incidences ever [...]

    We had problems with embassies before, but only after Benghazi was the Secretary of State lying to the public and Congress about it. Any I mean "lying" as in "knowingly telling an untruth".

    We hate her — and you should too — for this lying. Her dishonesty is so bad, NY Times, of all publications, called her a "congenital liar" in 1996 — twenty years ago! Do you suppose, she improved with age?

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    1. Re:Crooked Hillary by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She needs to go to jail for mishandling classified information. FBI's report stated, she did it — suck it up, cupcake, while the rest of us are sucking up the sorry reality, that laws are for "little people".

      Why the fuck do you think FBI decided not to prosecute then? It was pretty obvious the director doesnt think they would be able to convince the jury to convict, and it wouldnt hold water in court. The FBI doesnt have like a 93% conviction rate for no reason. Or do you think they should press charges anyway, because it serves your political agenda?

  8. Re:100+ emails classified when they arrived on ser by drnb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not true. He stated 8 had classification markings, all of which contained paragraphs marked with (c) designating them as confidential.

    "In total, the investigation found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. Eight chains contained top secret information, the highest level of classification, 36 chains contained secret information, and the remaining eight contained confidential information. Most of these emails, however, did not contain markings clearly delineating their status.
    Even so, Clinton and her team still should have known the information was not appropriate for an unclassified system, Comey said.
    "There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about the matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation," Comey said of some of the top secret chains."
    http://www.politifact.com/trut...

    Markings are not required. Some information is classified by its very nature and does not need an explicit mark. State department personnel and other authorized to handle classified information are well instructed on these facts.

  9. Re:At this point, I'm voting for brainless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How did we even let it get to this point? There are apparently a LOT of actual people supporting these two clowns?!
    Is it just the "I'm only voting for Hillary because she's not Trump" crowd versus the "I'm only voting for Trump because he's not Hillary" folks or what? That and the "we need to elect the first woman president" crowd (though frankly, we could easily do a heck of a lot better than Hillary if the only true qualification is a vagina).

    I can't even imagine the kind of screwed up mindset it would take to actually be excited to elect either major party's presumed nominee and there is essentially zero chance of a third party getting elected, so maybe voting for a brainless jellyfish ("turns out, you don't need one") would be just as productive. It might even send a louder message than just trying to go with the Green Party or Constitution party or Libertarian. Imagine if enough of the US electorate voted "A Brainless Jellyfish" for it to actually show up in the returns (even if just a fractional to low single digit percentage).

  10. Re:Which statement was a lie? by Megol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unless you are one of the conspiracy theory nuts (which in most cases believe in multiple directly contradictory fantasies) the logical solution is that he was lying before. Otherwise there should have been evidence of the break-in and it would have been added to the severe criticism in the FBI report.

    For a nut though it's just evidence for a cover-up. But for a nut everything is evidence for a cover-up...