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Google To Train 2 Million Indian Android Developers (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Stack: Google has announced its new "Android Fundamentals" training program, which aims to train and certify up to two million Android developers in India. The course, soon to be available online and at schools country-wide, is focused on training, testing, and certifying Android developers to prepare students for careers using Android technology. Google is currently working to update the skills of its existing trainers to prepare them to teach the Fundamentals course, as well as updating course materials to provide students a solid foundation in Android development. The new program works with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's 'Skill India' initiative, launched in 2015 with the intent of training 400 million Indian citizens with new vocational skills by 2022. Caesar Sengupta, VP Product Management for Google, said that while India is forecasted to have the largest developer population in the world by 2018, with almost four million developers, only a quarter of them are currently building for mobile.

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  1. Just what we need by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2 million MORE newbs who THINK they can program. And can post to the app store, um Play (yeah, because all my apps are a frolic).

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  2. Uh huh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So much for white privilege. Last time I checked, my account had no white privilege deposit. Our tech companies are giving the farm away to the Indians, Vietnamese, Chinese, and anyone else who will work for shit wages. Google and its ilk are driving down the salaries for IT workers in the literal race to zero. What with everyone replacing their workers with robotics, the BS $15 fast food wages about to kill those jobs, the US is rapidly becoming a 3rd-world taco stand with semi-decent pizza.

    I live in TX and, as an example, if you "wanted" to work construction here, no one would hire you--because your white. Ditto the farms, agriculture biz, fast food, you name it. Texas land owners as well as Texas businesses prefer to hire Mexicans--illegal or otherwise for work. Drive by any gas station on a weekday morning and there are dozens of Mexicans waiting around for the white man to come and collect them in pickup trucks to go and do their thing.

    I was thinking of starting a lawn care business, but it's impossible because the Mexicans have driven down the prices to what a white guy cannot live on. It's easy for them to live compared to us because they are willing to live in shit conditions and 8-10 in an apartment or tiny house. Who the hell want to live with their extended family? I sure as hell don't.

    I work in IT in Texas--Houston area--and IT sucks here. All of the oil and gas companies have laid off so many IT people, they are now competing for the crappy jobs that remain. IT pays little here compared to other places. Austin is an IT hub, but the traffic sucks worse than Houston, it's more expensive and it's a hipster enclave.

    I've been in IT across 3 decades and I'm seriously considering getting out, but I have no damn clue what to do since IT is all I know.

    1. Re:Uh huh.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's your self entitlement for you. Thinking that you can hire illegals and day workers for the cheapest price so that you benefit the most, but screw what it does to your local economy.

      And therin lies the strangest set of paradoxes you will ever find. The people who follow the presumed head of the anti-immigration movement and his plan to make another country build a wall in order to keep them out are likely to be the ones harmed by immigrant workers.

      As well, this people are convinced that we need a business leader to fix this problem, when businesses are the cause of the problem.

      As well, there is a remarkably simple way to cut way back on illegal immigrants at very little cost. If a business owner is caught hiring illegals to do the business they are doing, toss their sorry ass in jail. We're Americans - its what we do to support the incarceration industry.

      If illegal immigrants have no possibility of getting work and money here in the USA, and if anyone hiring one catches a felony and prison time, it will go a long way towards taking care of that problem. And a few business owners in prison are a lot cheaper than walling off the US.

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  3. Is this available to the US also? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We are the ones providing all the tax breaks for google to make its billions, so now we not only import people for jobs that supposedly cant be filled, but we are now providing training to those people taking jobs away from people who are already employed here in the States? I hate apple, but I think this may just convince me to switch. I see no reason to pay for the right to cost someone else their job.

    1. Re:Is this available to the US also? by OhPlz · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How is Apple any better? They produce jobs in China. I think they started the whole "designed in America" thing so that people could somehow feel like they give a shit about the country they're headquartered in. If you think any global corporation cares about the little people, you're sorely mistaken.

      Ironically, if Trump wins, we'll probably see more of this. If you can't import cheap labor, you can export the jobs.

  4. To hell with you, Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Don't expect Americans to waste their time learning and coding for Android if you're going to flood the market with cheap coders.

  5. if they would fit them with typewriters, by serbanp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    they would create a new Shakespeare play in no time at all. Better than coding.

  6. There is a lot of truth to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most Indians I've had the displeasure to work around were constantly leaning on their white counterparts for help. They DO crank out "paper tigers" just like it was here in the US back in the late 90s where the certification mills were cranking out MCSEs who couldn't tell you the difference between WINS and DNS. Ditto now the Linux certs for Docker. The IT security world is awash with paper tigers. I was in that world for 5 years and got the hell out because the IT security guys tend to be an aggressive set of asshats for whatever reason. Most of them don't know crap.

    American tech companies care about the bottom line. Fine. I understand that you have the evil shareholders barking at you. It's cheaper in the long run to hire and keep American workers. No one sees this. No one will.

    I spoke with many an Indian who said they took the job here in the US to work for 3-5 years so they could buy outright their house in India and be able to take a ho-hum job there paying far less. Many do that. Meanwhile, here in the US, American companies screw over Americans for a pat on the back from the shareholders. The crows are coming home to roost one day. Pretty soon, there will be nothing left but shitty service jobs. If you are not in machine learning, AI, robotics, game development/design, or data warehousing/DBA/development, your job is in danger.

  7. TRANSLATION by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Google To Train 2 Million Indian Android Developers"

    TRANSLATION:

    "Google To Produce 2 Million Incompetent Android Developers"

    To be blunt about it, most of the Indian "developers" I've worked with have been worthless oxygen thieves.

    About 10% seem to really know their shit, the rest are faking it, spending most of the time copying and pasting non-working code and then letting other people fix it. Some of them ask embarrassingly ignorant questions that expose them as completely unqualified, but because of the bargain-basement rates they work for, no one seems to give a shit.

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    1. Re:TRANSLATION by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Insightful

      About 10% seem to really know their shit,

      be afraid then, because that means there's going to be some 200,000 more developers that really know their shit...

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      Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
  8. A radical idea by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's a radical idea.

    Hey google - why don't you train 2 million Americans?

    1. Re:A radical idea by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are numerous courses for free download already available. I don't get it, there is nothing preventing anyone from learning Android programming, or almost any other kind of programming. It's totally free. Google has had Android tutorials online for a few years now. If those don't work for you there are others.

  9. The name of their initiative by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    code.h1b

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  10. Re: Another reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The myth is that quality coders are actually in demand now. How hard is it to find a good job even if you know your stuff? If you want to get ahead today, become a doctor or nurse or something. I'm only in tech because I like video games.

  11. Re:Another reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why isn't google investing in two million *americans* ?

    indians works for pennies on the dollar, and won't need to be h1-b'd either.

  12. WRONG. 200,000 competent JAVA programmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    For those of us that do the quote unquote "real" programming languages ... this means nothing.

    Java and .NET are "the sitting at the kids table" of programming languages.

  13. Re:Another reason by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You might want to rethink that: Cobol guys make good money. It's kind of like learning SAP: it's soul-suckingly dreadful work but it pays very well, and SAP / ERP people always seem to be in good demand.

    If you want to learn app development, look into cross-platform stuff. I'm having a decent experience with Xamarin (coding in C#, which is better than Objective-C and chocolate-and-sprinkles-covered-heavenly better than Java on Android), and there are some other options.

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  14. Re: Another reason by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no need to hire some expensive troubleshooter for insane rates if, and only if, you don't try to cut corners by hiring crappy coders in the first place.

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  15. Re:Another reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is that for real? European here, wants to know: Does WalMart really hire people who do nothing but, well, greet people as they enter the store? Or is that some euphemism for an essentially useless job where someone who is otherwise unemployable gets a meaningless job, like being a TSA agent?

    Would you believe it's both? I ask because it is both.