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Elon Musk: Autopilot Feature Was Disabled In Pennsylvania Crash (latimes.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In response to the third reported Autopilot crash, which was the first of three where there were no fatalities, Tesla CEO Elon Musk says that the Model X's Autopilot feature was turned off. He tweeted Thursday afternoon that the onboard vehicle logs show that the semi-autonomous driving feature was turned off in the crash. "Moreover, crash would not have occurred if it was on," he added. The driver of the Model X told police he was using the Autopilot feature, according to the Detroit Free Press. The vehicle flipped over after hitting a freeway guardrail. U.S. auto-safety regulators have been investigating a prior crash that occurred while Tesla's Autopilot mode was activated. Late Thursday afternoon and into early Friday, Musk made some comments on the improvements made to its radar technology used to achieve full driving autonomy. "Working on using existing Tesla radar by itself (decoupled from camera) w temporal smoothing to create a coarse point cloud, like lidar," he tweeted. "Good thing about radar is that, unlike lidar (which is visible wavelength), it can see through rain, snow, fog and dust." Musk has rejected Lidar technology in the past, saying it's unnecessary to achieve full driving autonomy. Consumer Reports is calling on Tesla to "disable hands-free operation until its system can be made safer."

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  1. Re:Maybe the driver believed it was enabled? by robbak · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Possibly the driver, seeing the bridge or rail coming up and being uncomfortable with the approach speed, tapped the brake. This would have disabled the autopilot.

    Now, although disabling automatic systems on manual input has been the standard for as long as automatic systems have been available, I am beginning to wonder if it really is the right decision here. People seem to be turning it off without realising that they have done it.

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  2. Re:Beyond a doubt by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Tesla logging system is not under investigation for being unreliable.

    Whether a hardware system is on or not is entirely different from any data that may be generated by it. There's a number of events required to enable autopilot, and all are logged.

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  3. Re:Maybe the driver believed it was enabled? by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly. Autopilot has to be the best excuse for wrecking your car ever invented. "No no, I didn't do it, the car did it itself. Really!"

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  4. "First of three.. no fatalities" = FUD by Theaetetus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In response to the third reported Autopilot crash, which was the first of three where there were no fatalities

    The first crash in Florida was the guy who got killed going under the truck while watching his DVD.
    The second crash was a gallery owner in Detroit and he and his passenger survived without any injuries .
    The third crash - the one apparently without autopilot - hit a guard rail in Montana. "The two occupants walked away without major injuries."

    I don't know why this "fatalities in two crashes" myth is so pernicious. It was also falsely claimed in this Slashdot story on the third crash last Monday. But all of the linked articles are absolutely clear that there's been only one fatality, so it's not like the various submitters are just getting bad information from the media. Instead, the Subbys appear to be making up the second fatality out of nothing.

    A more skeptical person than me would wonder if someone shorted TSLA.