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New Study Shows Why Big Pharma Hates Medical Marijuana (washingtonpost.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Christopher Ingraham writes in the Washington Post that a new study shows that painkiller abuse and overdose are significantly lower in states with medical marijuana laws and that when medical marijuana is available, pain patients are increasingly choosing pot over powerful and deadly prescription narcotics. The researchers "found that, in the 17 states with a medical-marijuana law in place by 2013, prescriptions for painkillers and other classes of drugs fell sharply compared with states that did not have a medical-marijuana law... In medical-marijuana states, the average doctor prescribed 265 fewer doses of antidepressants each year, 486 fewer doses of seizure medication, 541 fewer anti-nausea doses and 562 fewer doses of anti-anxiety medication. But most strikingly, the typical physician in a medical-marijuana state prescribed 1,826 fewer doses of painkillers in a given year."

[P]ainkiller drug companies "have long been at the forefront of opposition to marijuana reform, funding research by anti-pot academics and funneling dollars to groups, such as the Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America, that oppose marijuana legalization..."

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  1. Companies shouldn't have political power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, their voices need to be heard, but companies ought not to become politically powerful entities. They are there to make money, produce goods, and make our lives better, not to tell us how to live.

    1. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Companies will have power as long as they can make political donations.

    2. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by ooloorie · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Companies will have power as long as they can make political donations.

      Companies in the US already have strong restrictions on "political donations".

      What they can do is communicate on issues. So, are you going to start massively censoring speech by companies? How exactly is that going to work? Does "company" include the New York Times, or only companies you don't like?

    3. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At the very least, making any donation public.
      And making attempts to hide donation source criminal.

      You should at least know who is buying which representative and senator.
      Since 2008ish we can't do that any longer as they are allowed to hide their donations legally.

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      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    4. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The solution is for the people to wake up and pay attention to what their government is doing.

      Any "solution" that is premised on changing human nature is not a solution at all.

    5. Re: Companies shouldn't have political power by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bernie called for the immediate removal of pot from the Controlled Substances Act, which would effectively legalize pot at a federal level.

      The DNC platform language calls for a "pathway toward legalization", which is, of course, vague enough to be fairly meaningless and unenforceable against HRC once in office. And it barely passed, 81-80.

      Yet chipping away at bad laws a bit at a time has proven much more effective in the long term. Having people in office who understand this will be better than having blowhards who get blocked by the opposition constantly.

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    6. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Best interest. . There is the problem. You do not know what my best interest is. You might know what yours is or even what you want it to be but it may be completely different than mine.

      And you will find that along the way, there will be people with completely different best interest than either of us or even others.

    7. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do not know what my best interest is.

      There's a 99% chance that your best interest doesn't involve letting politicians get bribed. Some things are obvious for the vast majority of us.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    8. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by no-body · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At the very least, making any donation public.
      And making attempts to hide donation source criminal.

      You should at least know who is buying which representative and senator.
      Since 2008ish we can't do that any longer as they are allowed to hide their donations legally.

      Ha ha ha!

      All this "it should..." thinking may be great but has no effect at this point until Donald the savior shows up and fixes it all (pun intended).

      Reality is that the people benefitting from this money source - or honor/social stand are the one's making the laws - House and Senate.

      Would they cut in their own fingers? Your guess.

      Same goes for the revolving door Congress Industry, expect any change there?

      Or look how they are fighting about Supreme Court nominations to tilt the laws there in their favor, whatever this might be.
      How can this be that the highest court has a bias determined by political parties? Justicia wears a blind fold and sure is not going out to hunting parties with influential republican friends.

      All this is happening under the illusory mantle of democracy - by the people for the people and, most importantly - Freedom!

      Is there any alternative to Clinton or Donald? Having maybe a third or fourth political party in the system to get some alternatives?
      Fat chance, tried before several times, cannot even get into TV discussions, why? Status quo benefits the delusionary folks making the rules or pulling the strings to leave the status quo intact so things keep running as smooth as they are for decades or centuries - for the people by the people....

    9. Re: Companies shouldn't have political power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yes. Moderates like Obama have very little opposition.

    10. Re: Companies shouldn't have political power by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. Moderates like Obama have very little opposition.

      But he got a 'half way to universal healthcare measure' through congress, where a universal healthcare measure would not get through.
      With luck the next administration will get though the 'single payer' option, which will in the style of Zeno's paradox get 50% of the remaining way to universal healthcare.

      In time an incremental approach works. The all-in-one approach rarely succeeds.

      I'll take an pragmatic incrementer over someone calling for a revolution that will never happen.
       

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    11. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And the solution is?"

      I like the proposal that has been floated to make all politicians wear their corporate sponsor logos on their suits every day, like NASCAR drivers.

    12. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      *shrug* then there's no solution.

      Sure there is. Some countries are far more corrupt than others. But the difference is not in the people. People in Venezuela are no different from people in Denmark. The difference is in the laws and institutions. In corrupt countries, these are designed to facilitate corruption. In clean countries, they are designed to inhibit it.

      In America, when I apply for a business license, the law says that the clerk "will issue" when I pay the standard fee, which is posted on a public website. In corrupt countries, the clerk "may issue" and has much more discretion to delay and obstruct. In America, the clerk sits at a public window, and my transaction is in full view of the other people waiting in line. When I applied for a business license in China, I was escorted by the clerk to a private office, where "expediting fees" were discussed out of sight and hearing of the next applicant. The system there is designed to be corrupt.

  2. I can see the pattern now by Sax+Russell+5449D29A · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever the drug companies think is bad for their business, must be good for the consumers.

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  3. Re:One of five big industries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In Canada the "Royal" Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) make tens of billions of dollars a year on cannabis. They completely control the trade. Confiscate, resell, confiscate, resell. They can sell the same product over and over and over. They decide who their approved dealers are and the rest got to jail. They even spike it with harder drugs like they always accused the Hells Angels of doing (which they never did). The RCMP kicked the Hells Angels out of Eastern Canada in the early 90's and then promptly took over the Cannabis market. The national paramilitary police force in Canada answers to no government or civilian authority. They control the laws and governments at every level. It is racketeering. It will take armed revolution to unseat them from their position of absolute power over the people of Canada.

    Selective law enforcement. They get to decide who is a criminal and who is not. The laws and courts have nothing to do with it.

    What is required is an international standard of law enforcement with accreditation and continual audit by civilian authority. Democracy is meaningless when law enforcement is not accountable to the people.

  4. Re: News for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The DEA is another problem. Some people actually need pain medication and now whether you get it or not depends on things like how timid your doctor is, how much of an agenda your politically minded law enforcers have this week, and of course what kind of person you appear to be. If you're very young you'll get over the counter crap that doesn't work but if you have a good job, live in a rich part of town, etc it's different. I fall in that latter category. Had minor surgery a couple of years ago. Got strong, almost too strong pain pills temporarily no problem at all. Yet I've seen people younger than me who work service jobs get injured, be in worse pain than I was ever in, and get denied anything but otc garbage. Of course some of that stuff can destroy your liver when you take too much because it doesn't work but the government doesn't care because at least it doesn't make you feel good while you're taking it. That's what this is about. It's puritanism at its finest, and it's absolutely sick and disgusting.

    I'm glad for a whole lot of reasons I don't need that stuff for something long term. One of those is the notion of cops or anybody else besides my doctor looking over my medical history makes me sick to my stomach.

  5. Re:Can't wait by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, like I said, we are going to need new laws, not new "free trade" agreements. The criminal corporate overlords need to be taxed into submission, broken up into smaller companies and regulated until they scream Uncle!

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  6. Not a good track record by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where are big pharma's recreational drugs? The ones they engineer from the ground up to provide a pleasant, short-term euphoria with designed-in features to prevent overdose, mitigate overconsumption and abuse, and cheap enough that they could be priced lower than mass-produced marijuana?

    Drug manufacturers have a poor track record on that.

    In the 1800s, they noticed that opium worked as an analgesic, but had people using it simply for pleasure. So they engineered a new drug to just have the analgesic properties, and named it "morphine."

    That didn't work. It had a bad side effect: people who took opium or morphine experienced a side effect where they started craving it, called "opium appetite". So, pharmacies thought, well, we need to find a deliver it without the people eating it-- it could be delivered directly to the body, so people wouldn't have the craving (how could you have a craving for something you don't even taste?) So they invented needle injection to solve the opium appetite problem.

    That didn't work. Opium and morphine both turned out to be addictive, so they developed a new drug to solve that. This one they name it "heroin".

    That turned out to be even worse. So they went completely synthetic to make a new painkiller which didn't trace to the opium flower: Oxycodone.

    That turned out to be even more addictive...

  7. Re:Companies are not people by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You do not lose your rights to free speech and petitioning the government if you form a corporation. These rights are not taken away.

    A corporation does not inherently have rights. You still do.