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Samsung Fights Back, Sues China's Huawei For Patent Infringement (reuters.com)

Posted by msmash on from the fighting-back dept.

In May, China's conglomerate Huawei filed a lawsuit against Samsung accusing the Korean company of infringing on some of its 4G-related patents. Now, Samsung is returning the favor. According to Reuters, Samsung has filed a lawsuit of its own against Huawei for a very similar reason. From the report: An intellectual property court in Beijing said on its official Weixin account that Samsung sued Huawei and a department store in Beijing and has claimed 161 million yuan ($24.14 million) in damages. Samsung asked the two defendants to stop production and sales of products the South Korean firm says infringes on its patents, including Huawei's Mate 8 and Honor smartphones, the court said.

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  1. Um by s.petry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is China allowed to sue anyone for patent infringement anywhere except in China?

    In the last 40 years how much have they stolen? Is anything they could possibly patent today free of that stolen information and property?

    OTOH, Does Samsung think they will collect anything at all from China? Maybe the point is simply defamation, which is fine in my opinion.

    For the apologist, I fully understand the concept of forgiveness. That concept requires something called repentance. If the latter does not happen then the former should not happen. China can today claim altruism, but they have never repented so you are a fool to believe it.

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    1. Re:Um by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

      Why is China allowed to sue anyone for patent infringement anywhere except in China?

      "China" isn't suing anyone. Chinese companies like Huawei can sue for patent infringement outside China because they don't just have Chinese patents. It's exceptionally common for larger companies to file for a given patent in a number of different countries (the heavy hitters including the U.S., Canada, Europe, China, Japan, and South Korea), generally based on expected sales/manufacturing footprint.

    2. Re:Um by Frank+Burly · · Score: 1

      I'll bet you that 99.999% of non-Chinese companies are better off being sued outside China.

    3. Re:Um by ZFox · · Score: 1

      China would have a pretty good claim on the global fireworks and munitions industries over the past thousand years since gunpowder was "invented" there

      Just like the Chinese silk industry, the Chinese "fireworks and munitions industries" chose the route of trade secrets, instead of patents. They took on that risk because they didn't want to share and only be granted a temporary monopoly. Where did this short-term business decision land these industries...1000 years in the past.

    4. Re:Um by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why is China allowed to sue anyone for patent infringement anywhere except in China?

      Because suing within China about a foreign patent governed by a foreign government in a foreign land is a waste of time and money?

      Patent infringement is a local issue. Always has been and always will be. It is why Dyson's "innovative" blade-less fan got a patent in the USA, but was categorically rejected in Japan because it was identical to an existing patent filed 30 years prior by Toshiba (who were called Tokyo Shibaura Electronic at the time). The management of said patents then falls onto customs to enforce import bans unless a company can be sued under the provisions of some treaty. The lack of teeth by the treaties and the lack of authority of courts over foreign companies is why these companies often seek local import bans.

  2. TPTA they are not part of it but will they try to by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    TPTA they are not part of it but will they try to use it to get there way.

  3. This can't end well. by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    Let the pissing match begin!!!

    Hauwei being the up and comers would have been wise to carry on as normal.

    I'm sure Samsung sees them as competition now, especially since the Nexus 6P.

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  4. Everything old is new again. by mmell · · Score: 1
    SSDD.

    Nothing new under the sun.

    Business as usual.

    Next up: either mutually offsetting judgements or cross-licensing. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

  5. Re:Are you that gullible? by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

    My friend, you clearly have a well-established opinion about all this, so I'll not waste any more of my time trying to persuade you otherwise. But my answer -- which is both legally and factually accurate whether or not it fits your ill-informed worldview -- stands. Now run down to Wally World and stock up before China confiscates all the tin foil.

  6. And immature by s.petry · · Score: 1

    Ahh, so when your argument is demonstrated to be false you make ad hominem attacks claiming the person making the demonstration is paranoid. What an amazingly well thought out reply! *sarcasm dripping*

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    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  7. Look, I can change the subject line too!!1! by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 1

    Ahh, so when your argument is demonstrated to be false

    You must have a very creative definition of the word "demonstrated" -- or did you perhaps mean to say "semi-incoherently argued without a shred of support"? I'm happy to engage with facts and evidence -- not so much with conclusory conspiracy theories.

    And as far as ad hominem goes, you might consider that your own "amazingly well thought out reply" [cough] labeled me "gullible" and accused me of "attempting to spread opinions based on ignorance." Apparently you're one of those special little snowflakes that can freely dish it out but can't take it.