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Phones Without Headphone Jacks Are Here... and They're Extremely Annoying (mashable.com)

A few weeks ago, we had an intense discussion on what would happen if Apple's next iPhone doesn't have a headphone port -- and what that means for the rest of the industry, as well as the pros and cons of ditching the legacy port. Over the past few months, we have seen many smartphone manufacturers launch new handsets that don't have a headphone jack. Mashable has a report today in which it says that it is already causing frustration among users. From the article: In the Android camp, phones like Lenovo's Moto Z and Moto Z Force and China's LeEco have already scrapped the 3.5mm headphone jack; to listen to music on the company's three latest phones, users need to plug in USB Type-C headphones, go wireless, or use a dongle. I'm all for letting go of old technologies to push forward, but what is happening is actually going to make things worse. The headphone jack has worked for 50 years and it can work for another 50 more because it's universal. Headphones I plug into my iPhone work in an Android phone, in a BlackBerry, in my computer, in my PS4 controller, in my tablet, in any speaker with audio-out, and so on. I can walk into any electronics store and pick up a pair of headphones and not have to worry about compatibility with any of my devices. I know it'll work. [...] With a universal headphone jack, I never have to worry whether or not the crappy pack-in iPhone EarPods I have will work with the Android phone I'm reviewing or not. I also never have to worry if I'll be able to plug my headphones into a friend's phone to listen to some new song. Same applies for when I want to use my earbuds and headphones with another person's device. And there lies the real issue. I will need different dongles -- a Lightning-to-headphone-jack and a USB-Type-C-to-headphone-jack to be prepared because I do carry both iPhone and Android phone on me daily. Dongles also get lost.

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  1. New is not necessarily better by pz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple, really. New is not necessarily better. Change for the sake of change is rarely beneficial to the end user.

    But, unfortunately for the public, neither observation helps sell more widgets. Rather quite the opposite.

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    1. Re:New is not necessarily better by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's simple, really. New is not necessarily better. Change for the sake of change is rarely beneficial to the end user

      It's called Marketable Obsolescence. Now you "get" to buy stuff you wouldn't have otherwise needed or wanted.

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  2. Analogue vs Digital, and DRM by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The media content industry wants to get rid of all analogue output jacks because an analogue jack cannot be locked down.

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    The media content industry has already done away with analogue video output jacks. Now they are focusing on audio.

  3. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Micro USB jacks wear out even more quickly. I wonder what the new connectors will be like. Everything is getting shittier.

  4. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by epine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It wears out ridiculously fast.

    For what value of "ridiculously"? I don't have a single 3.5 mm jack in the house with bad connection poltergeists.

    But then, I'm still running an NAD 7140 from the 1980s as my stereo amplifier. Had to go in there last week with electrical contact cleaner to take the crackle out of the volume and balance pots, but I'm sure the audio jack still works perfectly. I'd have replaced some of the electrolytics, too, if my ears could hear any defects.

    Obviously, though, I'm not a desirable Apple customer on several counts (ability to fix things myself, willingness to keep using unfashionable equipment that still works fine, ability to tell whether unfashionable equipment still works fine), so there is that.

  5. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by Etcetera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It wears out ridiculously fast. I've had to find the "sweet spot" on an untold number of 3.5mm jacks. You either have to twist the plug to the perfect angle or apply pressure on the correct side, or else you get no sound or severely diminished sound.

    This has been my experience as well. Not every jack fails - but it still happens more often than for any other jack type that I commonly use.

    This is cray. I've used tons of audio jacks over the years (being both an audio person and a mobile DJ). I've worn our FAR more micro-USB ports (and more expensively to replace) than I've ever had problems with headphone jacks. And the two times I've had problems with headphones, a tiny amount of solder fixed it.

    More to the point -- simpler is better.

  6. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So instead you want to break your power charging plug hole, the one you now generally use once per day and that with a fixed battery. So instead a potential proprietary socket, that will wear out, destroying the phone because no it connects to nothing and you can not pull out a flat battery and replace it with a charged battery. Yep, gullibly being sold another B$ marketing line. So with an existing ear socket phone you can listen through the usb socket with the right hardware and software but not fucking while you are charging the phone but that's OK you can swap out the battery and charge it separately, oh wait no you fucking can't.

    When I am sitting back at home listening to my phone with a headset, as I am not moving, I charge up the phone at the same time, it's common sense and I have decades old cd/radio players that still plug fine their headsets work fine, so worn socket, likely crappy off spec plugs.

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  7. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed, I've never had a modern 3,5mm headphone port wear out. I've had a lot of micro-USB ports wear out. : And it's only logical that would be the case, the electrodes on the headphone port are far more robust than those on a micro-USB port.

    I know that the standard response to "3,5mm port removal is the feature that nobody requested" is "it'll be painless and we'll be able to use the extra space to more useful internal hardware without having to make the phone bigger". But just ignoring the "painless" thing... how much more "capability" can you add in such a little space? That's enough for what, maybe 5% more battery time?

    Maybe I'm wierd, but I couldn't give a rat's arse how thick a phone is... I just want it to be robost and not a big headache.

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  8. Re:Headphone Jack is Pretty Crappy by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Micro USB jacks wear out even more quickly. I wonder what the new connectors will be like. Everything is getting shittier.

    And increasing their usage will decrease their lifetime.

    I like my headphone jack near the top of the phone, not at the bottom where the usb port typically is. I also may want to listen while I am charging. I also don't like the extra bulk of BT headphones, nor the cost for what is often crappy audio quality.