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Norway Is Building The World's First 'Floating' Underwater Tunnels (thenextweb.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via The Next Web: Norway plans to build "submerged floating bridges" to allow drivers to cross its bodies of water. The Next Web reports: "The 'submerged floating bridges' would consist of large tubes suspended by pontoon-like support structures 100 feet below water. Each will be wide enough for two lanes of traffic, and the floating structures should ease the congestion on numerous ferries currently required to get commuters from Point A to Point B. Each support pontoon would then be secured to a truss or bolted to the bedrock below to keep things stable." A trip from Kristiansand to Trondheim is roughly 680 miles and could take as long as 21 hours due to the seven ferry trips required along the way. While building normal bridges would cost significantly less than the $25 billion in funds required for the tunnel project, the fjords and difficult terrain make them unsuitable candidates. The pricey tunnel project could cut the trip time to just 10 hours when it's expected to be finished in 2035.

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  1. San Francisco's Transbay Tube by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Interesting

    San Francisco's Transbay Tube does this. It's a bunch of segments bolted together, and then it was weighted down with thousands of pounds of granite fill/gravel and they pumped all the water out of it. The bottom of the San Francisco bay is pretty flat and muddy compared to Norway, I suspect, so they just let it sit on the bottom, rather than precariously suspend it in the water(?!?)
     
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transbay_Tube

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    1. Re:San Francisco's Transbay Tube by IrquiM · · Score: 2

      We already have what you're talking about in Norway as well, and that one is probably one of the busiest tunnels we've got. This is something completely different.

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  2. Easy target for enemies... by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Such a tunnel seems to be an even easier target for a Russian submarine or a well-equipped terrorist, than a regular bridge or a tunnel in solid soil.

    And the results will be spectacular — once a wall is breached, everybody inside drowns... No escape, no rescue... Unless, maybe, individual segments can somehow be made to self-seal and automatically surface in an emergency.

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    1. Re:Easy target for enemies... by gweilo8888 · · Score: 2

      Why is this any more risk-prone than immersed tube tunnels, which we've had for over a century now? I can't think of any good reason.

    2. Re:Easy target for enemies... by tomhath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No more risk than any other bridge. It has a well known capacity, they'll stay under it.

  3. Re:FLOATING UNDER WATER? by Calydor · · Score: 2

    Buoyancy making the tunnel 'want' to move towards the surface, but since it's secured to structures on the bottom it doesn't get to come all the way up.

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  4. Re:FLOATING UNDER WATER? by nedlohs · · Score: 2

    Do you also think that cruise liners and battleships and so on don't float because a portion of the structure is under water?

  5. The road to Trondheim by tomhath · · Score: 5, Funny

    A trip from Kristiansand to Trondheim is roughly 680 miles

    So the road to Trondheim will be a series of tubes? Ted would be proud.

    1. Re:The road to Trondheim by Per+Bothner · · Score: 3, Informative
      The article is misleading in suggesting that driving from Kristiansand to Trondheim currently takes about 20 hours. It does that if you roughly follow the coastline. However, there is already a much faster route going through Oslo.

      Where floating tunnels may make sense is for shorter trips - for example Bergen to Ålesund.

  6. Tunnel Through the Deeps by sphealey · · Score: 2

    As described in Harry Harrison's prophetic _Tunnel Through the Deeps_ (also published as _A Transatlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!_)

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  7. It only takes 10 hours to make this trip currently by Isca · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can already make this trip on a highway that is 4 lanes for a large portion of it by going up through oslo and central Norway. The reason it would take so long with the path they are wanting to connect is that this path is along the coast. Even after getting rid of the ferries it's still going to be winding and longer mileage. I suppose the coast might be a bit warmer and less likely to have winter conditions, but a gale along the coast already shuts down the highway in quite a few parts as it is.

    They really just want to connect all the cities along the coast without having to take a ferry (down if bad weather) or having to drive a hundred kilometers or more inland and back out again.

  8. More realistically by s.petry · · Score: 2

    No need to jump to the terrorism scenarios. Consider a ship riding lower than expected (sinking), a fishing net or other debris caught on a shipt, stormy seas moving heavy debris around, etc..

    A whole lot of bad can happen, but people will I assume be happy with the risk.

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  9. Misleading title, it is 1 of 4 proposals by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is Norwegian Public Roads Administration video of the proposals. The underwater tunnel is one of the four proposals https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (great watch)

    There is no decision on which of those will be implemented yet. Article is simply running with the fanciest option.

  10. Re:Are anchors chained longer than ~80feet an issu by trevc · · Score: 2

    What would engineers do without the smart people on Slashdot! I think you just single handidly averted a disaster.

  11. Re:FLOATING UNDER WATER? by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Submarines float underwater...

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  12. Those crazy Norwegans. by Catmeat · · Score: 2

    Here's another interesting project they're cooking up... a Ship tunnel which is, if anything, more impressive.

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