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Getty Sued For $1 Billion For Selling Publicly Donated Photos (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Online stock media library Getty Images is facing a $1 billion lawsuit from an American photographer for illegally selling copyright for thousands of photos. The Seattle-based company has been sued by documentary photographer Carol Highsmith for 'gross misuse', after it sold more than 18,000 of her photos despite having already donated them for public use. Highsmith's photos which were sold via Getty Images had been available for free via the Library of Congress. Getty has now been accused of selling unauthorized licenses of the images, not crediting the author, and for also sending threatening warnings and fines to those who had used the pictures without paying for the falsely imposed copyright.ArsTechnica has more details.

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  1. Rules for thee, not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Glad to see a copyright troll getting what it deserves.

    1. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Informative

      She's only asking for like $400M, but a previous lawsuit allows treble damages for any further suits against Getty. Sooooooooo.

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    2. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Informative

      For an imperfect analogy: If I loan my volunteer fire department use of my car, I haven't given up title, Nor have I indicated that anyone is now free to abscond the vehicle with impunity.

      In fact, Getty not only stole these, by falsely asserting ownership rights, it's as if they took the car from my analogy, and drove it for Uber.

      Her images are NOT public domain. They are her copyright, for which she waived license fees for re-use and distribution, via Library of Congress, per her attribution remain.

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    3. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's statutory damages as set by law. It's tripled because Getty is a repeat offender. Unlike the many cases of *AA vs. Grandma where the same statutory damages were applied, Getty is exactly the sort of defendant the lawmakers had in mind when they wrote the law and the evidence is much more clear.

      If the courts do not award the full amount, they will demonstrate once and for all that natural people are second class citizens.

    4. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doesn't matter,

      Punitive Damages are not about what the plaintiff wants. They are about dissuading the defendant from repeating their offence.

      So how do you dissuade an an entity such as Getty? You savage their pocket book so badly that the board of directors take notice. For public corporations, you hit them so hard it affects their stock prices and subsequently their shareholders, who then would hopefully respond by replacing board members who allowed the President or CEO to take the offending actions.

      In the case of corporations, the buck stops with the shareholders. There is no punishment until the shareholders feel the pain.

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    5. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by Holi · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to the LoC she actually has relinquished her rights.

      "Publication and other forms of distribution: Ms. Highsmith has stipulated that her photographs are in the public domain. (See P&P Collection Files.) Photographs of sculpture or other works of art may be restricted by the copyright of the artist."

      https://www.loc.gov/rr/print/r...

      This may cause problems with her standing to sue.

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    6. Re:Rules for thee, not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not illegal to sell works in the public domain, particularly if these were "transformed" in any manner beforehand. Getty could argue that they transformed the work by selective editing, which is the process by which you choose amongst many options. Any transformation can initiate a new copyright. This might come down to technical process copyright law, by which you take a Tiff and convert it into a jpeg, versus misrepresentation (claiming you own the rights to something you don't). When publishers print classic books out of copyright, they will still stick a copyright claim in the book on the grounds the work was edited again and gained a new copyright. Same thing with music. These claims are not generally challenged because the claimant could always just go back to the original source. This is a rare case because the artist is still alive. However, it's not clear you can positively put something into the public domain by fiat as an author. You're still the copyright holder. The best you can do is issue a promise not to sue. This will be very messy to resolve.

  2. Getty threatened her is how she found out by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ironically the photographer found out when LCS threatened her with copyright infringement unless she paid $120 after she used one of her own photos. Getty does not acknowledge their relationship with LCS however LCS uses the same address as Getty's corporate office. I would suspect LCS is their enforcement subsidiary so that they don't get negative press.

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    1. Re:Getty threatened her is how she found out by locofungus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Even more fun, in their original letter to her they said:

                      97. The Letter went on to state as follows: "Although this infringement might have
      been unintentional, use of an image without a valid license is considered copyright infringement
      in violation of the Copyright Act, Title 17, United States Code. This copyright law
      entitles Alamy to seek compensation for any license infringement."

                    104. In the "Frequently Asked Questions" section of the Letter, the answer to the
      question "What if I didn't know?" includes the following language: "You may have employed a
      third party, former worker or intern to design and develop your company's site. However, the
      liability of any infringement ultimately falls on the company (the end user) who hired that party,
      employee or intern." The answer to the question "What if I simply remove the image?"Â
      includes the following language: "While we appreciate the effort of removing the material in
      question from your site, we still need compensation. Your company has benefited by using our
      imagery without our permission. As the unauthorized use has already occurred, payment for that
      benefit is necessary."

      Hoist by their own petard.

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  3. As someone who has been on the wrong end by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Informative

    As someone who has been on the wrong end of a letter from Getty's lawyers concerning a set of images which were bought (on a CD) with the impression that they were already properly licensed, I hope she wins every fucking penny.

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  4. Re:A billion in damages?! by locofungus · · Score: 4, Informative

    151. GettyÃââs violations of 17 U.S.C. ÃÂ 1202 entitle Ms. Highsmith to recover, among
    other things, and if she so elects as provided in 17 U.S.C. à1203(c)(3)(B), ÃâÅ"an award of
    statutory damages for each violation of section 1202 in the sum of not less than $2,500 or more
    than $25,000.ÃâÂ
                    152. When Getty is found to have committed one violation of 17 U.S.C. ÃÂ 1202 for
    each of the 18,755 results of a search for ÃâÅ"Carol M. HighsmithÃâ on GettyÃââs website, Ms.
    Highsmith would be entitled to recover, among other things, and if she so elects, aggregate
    statutory damages against Getty of not less than forty-six million, eight hundred eighty-seven
    thousand five hundred dollars ($46,887,500) and not more than four hundred sixty-eight
    million, eight hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($468,875,000).
                    153. Additionally, because Getty has already had a final judgment entered against it in
    the past three years in the Morel v. Getty case, the Court may treble the statutory damages in
    this case.

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  5. Re:Getty screwed up by Jhon · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should write article summaries for /.

    Seriously.

  6. $1 billion is actually pretty reasonable by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

    The music industry set the bar at $22,500 per violation ($675,000 for 30 works) for an individual violating copyright without a profit motive. $1 billion for 18,000 works is only $55,555 per violation, which is relative to the Tenenbaum case is not unreasonable when you consider this is commercial copyright violation. Her lawyers are actually being nice by "only" asking for $1 billion. Copyright law allows her to sue for up to $150,000 per violation, which would be a cool $2.7 billion.

    In other words, if she gets less than $22,500 * 18,000 = $405 million out of this, there's been a gross miscarriage of justice either in her case or the Tenenbaum cause. Unlike filesharing, what Getty Images did is precisely the sort of thing copyright law was made to prohibit - profiting off the work of others.