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FCC Requires TP-Link To Support Open Source Router Firmware

An anonymous reader writes: Earlier today, the FCC reached a settlement with TP-Link over Wi-Fi router interference. Most of the agreement was routine, addressing compliance with radio emission rules.

But the FCC also did something unprecedented. It required TP-Link to support open source firmware on its routers. You might recall that, last year, the FCC caused a ruckus when it mistakenly suggested it was banning open source router firmware. In fact, the FCC only required that router vendors implement protections for specific radio emission parameters. But the FCC didn't work with router vendors in advance to maintain open source compatibility, resulting in certain vendors (including TP-Link) trying to lock down their routers.

The FCC eventually issued a clarification, but the damage was done. Only recently have a couple router vendors (Linksys and Asus) affirmed that they will continue to support open source firmware.

Today's settlement is a milestone for the FCC. The agency is finally doing something, with deeds and not just words, to demonstrate its support for the open source community. It would be better if the agency hadn't created this mess, but they deserve serious credit for working so hard to fix it.

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  1. Now do the same for ISP's that force you to use by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now do the same for ISP's that force you to use there routers

    1. Re:Now do the same for ISP's that force you to use by Cramer · · Score: 2

      Obviously, you've never met Uverse.

    2. Re:Now do the same for ISP's that force you to use by Holi · · Score: 2

      If you provision the ethernet on the ONT you disable the guide on the cable service (this can be fixed with a moca adapter). If you have only internet it's no big deal.

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    3. Re:Now do the same for ISP's that force you to use by Holi · · Score: 2

      Way to confuse ATT DSL and ATT U Verse cable. Two very different services.

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  2. Well crap... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... we were boycotting TPLink for its snubbing of the open source community. Now it'll be the easiest target for OpenWRT.

    Maybe they can sell the company to competent management and we can buy from them..

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  3. Misleading summary by bws111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nowhere in that document does it say the FCC REQUIRES TP-Link to allow open source. What it says is:

    “While manufacturers of Wi-Fi routers must ensure reasonable safeguards to protect radio parameters, users are otherwise free to customize their routers and we support TP-Link’s commitment to work with the open-source community and Wi-Fi chipset manufacturers to enable third-party firmware on TP-Link routers.”

    They SUPPORT a company working with open-source, not REQUIRE,

    Later on it says:
    TP-Link has also agreed to take steps to support innovation in third-party router firmware by committing to investigate security solutions for certain 5
    GHz band routers that would permit the use of third-party firmware while meeting the Commission’s security requirements and maintaining the integrity of critical radio parameters.

    So the requirement is that any open-source stuff must meet the security requiements and maintain correct operation, not that they MUST allow open source,

    1. Re:Misleading summary by DRJlaw · · Score: 2

      The Official FCC announcement suggests that there is that requirement and that you're simply not looking at the right document, or the right portion of it:

      "TP-Link has also agreed to work with the open-source community and Wi-Fi chipset manufacturers to enable consumers to install third-party firmware on their Wi-Fi routers."

    2. Re:Misleading summary by DRJlaw · · Score: 2

      Read the whole document (which is what I quoted), not just the bits you like.

      The part you quoted was just an introductory statement, it has no content.

      Yes, read the whole document, including the hyperlinked order and consent decree at the bottom.

      What makes you think the FCC has even the slightest authority to demand that a manufacturer allow open source, especially for an unlicensed product like a WiFi router?

      The fact that the FCC has the authority to levy much larger fines, and thus the ability to ask for the manufacturer to agree to other actions that further their policy objectives in lieu of the larger fine.

      Also, I actually read the consent decree:

      Sec. 8
      As part of the Compliance Plan, TP-Link also agrees to take the steps set forth herein to support the development of software by third-parties, including open-source software,
      for use with its routers, which comply with the U-NII security requirements.

      Sec. 15(a)(iv):
      TP-Link, working with TP-Link Technologies CO., Ltd., will investigate for certain of its router models the development of U-NII security solutions
      that would allow for the use of third-party firmware with its devices while meeting the Commission's U-NII security requirements and maintaining the
      integrity of critical radio parameters. As part of this effort, TP-Link, working with TP-Link Technologies CO., Ltd., will cooperate and share information
      with interested developers of third-party software
      and chipset manufacturers.
      Nothing in the foregoing is intended to limit or affect the ability of TP-Link or TP-Link Technologies CO., Ltd.: (a) to assess, including by requiring
      demonstration by any such third-party software developer, whether the developer's proposed designs will prevent access to the frequency or power
      level protocols in TP-Link devices and otherwise comply with the U-NII security requirements, and (b) to select, in its sole discretion, particular
      chipsets, that it will use in the manufacture of its devices.

      Open source mentioned, mandatory language, part of the Compliance Plan, and enforced by a Compliance Monitor (sec 17). Like I said, you're simply not looking at the right document, or the right portion of it. It's required.

  4. Re:Yeah. by Hydrian · · Score: 2

    Yea.. they really help grow my bot net.. ;-)

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  5. Re:Yeah. by Enigma2175 · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's what I thought, until I bought one (TP-Link Archer C7). The hardware seems decent but when I tried to load OpenWRT I ran into the "safeguards" that the article is talking about. I was finally able to get an alternate firmware installed, but it certainly wasn't easy (or at least, wouldn't have been easy for a less technical user).

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  6. Re:Mandate just as bad as a ban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no such mandate. The summary writer is an idiot.

  7. Re:Mandate just as bad as a ban by mi · · Score: 2

    There is no such mandate.

    That's barely relevant. The point is, most of Slashdot would've been happy if there was...

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  8. Re:Where does this leave the original regulation? by EvilSS · · Score: 2

    I mean, the regulation was meant to make manufacturers restrict users from changing radio parameters (turn off DFS, for instance). That was not possible with stock firmware, only with customized OpenWrt/LEDE. So, what's the point of the regulation, now, after this precedent? What difference does it make for the users or for TP-Link?

    Essentially, it sounds like TP-Link will need to ensure that router firmware (ANY firmware, not just their own) can't make illegal adjustments to the radio parameters. This would probably mean a change to the hardware in some form to lock the radio down. Maybe a separate bit of firmware that just controls the radio and sits between the hardware and the main firmware.

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  9. Re: Now do the same for ISP's that force you to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can plug any router directly into the FiOS ONT's Ethernet port and it will work. Sometimes you have to clone the MAC address of their router and reset the ONT though. I've done this on several FiOS installations in various states for years, it works.

  10. Re:Mandate just as bad as a ban by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Umm.. have you read slashdot? It's a den of idiocy for the most part, stuck in 1999.

  11. Re:Mandate just as bad as a ban by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is such a mandate any better than a ban? A free country should have neither...

    It shouldn't be a blanket mandate for all manufacturers, and in this case it isn't for TP-Link either. However, this is part of a larger issue (TP-LINK sold out of compliance routers in violation of FCC rules) and as part of the settlement for that, they agreed to work with the community to allow 3rd party firmware while staying compliant with the new FCC rules, as well as other FCC rules they violated that brought the action in the first place. I'm sure there was some haggling involved and TP-Link probably used this condition to help reduce their fine ($200K as it stands now). It's something I assume the FCC asked for and TP-Link agreed to do as part of the settlement. I'm sure if they said no, the FCC would have settled with them anyway, just probably for a larger fine instead. In this case it's pretty much a win-win-win. TP-Link gets their fine reduced and gets some good publicity out of it, the FCC gets to show that they really didn't mean to ban 3rd party firmware and they get TP-Link in compliance, and the community gets another option for compliant routers they can flash with 3rd party firmware.

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  12. Sure can: By causing an outage and not supporting by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't think any ISP can force you to use their's. FIOS ones i guess could force their's on you but you should be able to bridge it and use your own anyway.

    Sure they can:
    1. Break the user's feed by reconfiguring things in the company's plant - and do it incorrectly.
    2. When the user calls in to get things fixed, tell him that the problem is in his modem and you don't support that modem - or any modem not purchased from the ISP.
    3. The user must buy a modem from the ISP before the ISP will bother to fix things at their end.
    4. Profit!

    I recently had a ONE MONTH! (to the day) AT&T DSL outage. (My town doesn't have fiber to the home, and fiber to the curb got bundled with the U-verse tarbaby and had several other downsides. So I was on legacy DSL. And as an early adopter it was VERY OLD technology - in Internet Time.)

    In the process of decommissioning some of the now-nearly-redundant DSLAMs (as they get most of their customers moved over to U-verse), they moved my legacy DSL line to a new box. This box didn't support the modem I had, and they also screwed up the propagation of the routes so the packets didn't reach the new DLSAM. But they didn't bother to tell me (until they finally let me talk to an actual tech, nearly a month later after purchase of two replacement DSL modems) that they'd made any changes.

    My legacy DSL modem was old enough that the web configuration interface was an extra-cost option - which AT&T hadn't chosen to buy. They gave me instructions for getting to the interface (IF it had been present) - and we were both convinced that the modem had failed.

    I was unable to find the replacement that they recommended at any (silicon valley!) dealership - including the AT&T phone store. So I purchased a Linksys DSL modem at Best Buy that claimed AT&T (non U-verse) capability. Hooked it up, got the web interface. Had ATM sync (yay!) but no ping (boo!).

    Called service to get things running. "Sorry, we don't support that modem. We don't support any modem that we don't sell."

    So I bought ANOTHER DSL modem - from an AT&T store - that the store claimed was supported. Also a Linksys. An older model with fewer features, but with AT&T approved firmware and from their own store. And about 1 1/2 times the price.

    NOW they were willing to debug the problems in their own plant. After another week, being switched to still another DSLAM (becaue the first one they'd put me on was on a router that had also been decommissioned), and having the routes re-propagated, I was able to get ONE of my (changed!) fixed IP addresses live.

    And by this time I was past the return date for the modem from Best Buy. So I ended up with store credit, rather than a refund.

    And the new DSL connection is PPPoE over ATM, rather than Ethernet over ATM (which the new DSLAM doesn't support). That adds 8 extra bytes to every packet.

    And the official modem I bought from AT&T doesn't support a subnet, so I have to run in bridge mode to get more than the router's own address. I won't get the rest of my (changed!) fixed addresses up until I have time to configure a PPPoE daemon on the firewall/router machine (which is currently running software from before the PPPoE standards were finalized...).

    B-b

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  13. You missed a line: by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    Weird then that ATT provides instructions on how to use your own router

    Another user has pointed out that the instructions are for DSL, not for U-verse. So far, U-verse modems are only available from AT&T.

    But you missed the line at the end of the page:

    Note: AT&T Tech Support does not support non-AT&T provided routers. Please contact the manufacturer of your router for further assistance.

    Which means that if THEY break your service at THEIR end, they won't FIX it until you hook up one of THEIR modems - buying it if necessary.

    This happened to me a couple months ago. It took a full month - and the purchase of TWO modems (the second from them after I bought a replacement from not-them for the supposedly failed modem - and they "refused to support it") before THEY bothered to even look at, let alone fix, the problems on THEIR end of the wire.

    Now I could use a non-ATT modem. But if my service ever breaks again I'll have to hook up a "supported" modem to get it fixed again. (And you can count on it breaking.)

    As you can guess, I'm now looking at other service providers. But from what I hear so far they may be even worse. B-b

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  14. FCC screwed us and here is why this is WORSE by chris2net23 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you read far enough into what the FCC has actually required TP-Link to do you'll quickly realize this is worse for free and open source software than TP-Link locking down its routers. Go look at https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_pub... (the settlement PDF links to this as a source document). In fine print:

    "the Commission required . . . device software that controls the RF parameters that ensure compliance with the Commission’s technical rules for preventing harmful interference must be secured. The purpose . . . is to prevent modifications to the software that could, for example, . . . enable tuning to unauthorized frequencies, increased power above authorized levels, etc. The rule is not intended to prevent or inhibit modification of any other software or firmware in the device, such as software modifications to improve performance, configure RF networks or improve cybersecurity.”.

    What this means is that the community won't be able to add features like mesh networking support to modern 802.11ac wireless firmware components (I should also point out that we don't even have source code for any 802.11ac wifi firmware... and the people trying to get it are being hindered by these FCC rule changes.. I know. I'm one of these people.). The reason we have great support for Atheros 802.11n chipsets is explicitly because the community has had access to critical bits of code. This code has now been moved to the wireless firmware which is *LOCKED DOWN*.

    So no this is NOT good news. It's actually creating a security threat because we will be prevented by gaining access to the complete set of source code running on our devices.

    1. Re:FCC screwed us and here is why this is WORSE by chris2net23 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Proper mesh networking support was added to the 802.11n atheros wifi drivers via the community. The companies which design these chipsets have no incentive to add proper mesh support themselves, but because we had access to the sources could add it in the past. This was before the critical components were moved into the firmware on the newer atheros 802.11ac chipsets. Now if the sources were available for the firmware components we could add proper support for mesh networking. It's not and the situation is really bad @ atheros. Management changes and the loss of two key developers at atheros has resulted in a brick wall as far as getting them to understand the value and popularity of there 802.11n wifi chips. It took many many years to get prior management @ atheros to understand the importance and value of releasing the full set of source code. Given this AND the FCC situation there is zero hope at getting the code from atheros now.

      I'm hoping we can fix this in the years to come and convince a different chipset company to release the source code for an equivalent firmware. Unfortunately that argument won't fly if the FCC is requiring lock downs.