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Donald Trump Signs Pledge To Crack Down On Internet Porn (pcworld.com)

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pledged to crack down on Internet pornography via corporate partnerships -- and he could possibly establish a federal commission on the harmful effects of porngraphy, a nonprofit announced Monday. The announcement comes a day after the New York Post ran a full-page nude photo of Melania Trump, wife of Donald Trump, on its cover. PCWorld reports: Enough is Enough, a nonprofit dedicated to confronting online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation, published Trump's signed pledge on Monday. Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton refused to sign the pledge, Enough is Enough said, though her campaign told EiE that she supported its goals. "Preventing the sexual exploitation of youth online requires a multi-faceted holistic strategy with a shared responsibility between the public, industry, and government," Donna Rice Hughes, the chief executive of Enough is Enough, said in a statement. "The need for aggressive enforcement of existing laws and adequate funding for Law Enforcement to do the job is long overdue. For nearly two decades, bi-partisan government commissions, task forces, Internet safety groups, and researchers, who have recognized the significant risks associated with unfettered Internet access by youth, and have called upon the government and law enforcement to take aggressive action."

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  1. Now that the candidates are officially lined up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's time for the ringer to throw the election and make sure the Clinton Coronation proceeds unfettered.

    1. Re:Now that the candidates are officially lined up by sexconker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those kinds of factoids are meaningless drivel. No one has done X without Y until one day it happens. Then you'll say no one has done X without Z.

      FTR I hope they both lose.

    2. Re:Now that the candidates are officially lined up by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Never mind all that stuff. Trump has shown that he can break all the rules of thumb. Statistics isn't working well here. Statistics won't work well here because there isn't enough data to be meaningful.

      As pointed out by the fivethirtyeight.com person when asked why he got it all wrong about Trump in the primary, after several reasons are given, it ultimately comes down to the very low number of elections we've had for where we've had primaries without incumbents running. We didn't have presidential primaries until the 20th century, and we didn't have binding presidential primaries until after 1968. In a popular primary process, someone like Trump may not really be a rare outlier.

      Although conventional wisdom (as created by news media) says those three states are vital, it's only because those states tend to be relatively large swing states. But the definition of swing state depends upon how far back in history you go. Every election is different, and with changing times each state also becomes very different. Add ten years and the demographics aren't the same anymore. Ie, the anti-Castro rhetoric that won you Florida awhile back might backfire today or in four years. Looking at election maps we don't have blue versus red states, they're all slighty different shades of purple. They're 48-52 very often. Get a solid Republican candidate who's not crazy then it's not inconceivable that California could be a red state, but this gets discounted because every thinks it's locked up and will never swap despite us having several Republican governors in recent history.

      So basically, if you're using stats and math to figure out what's going to happen with Trump then you're going to need to use much more sophisticated math than they use on the news outlets.

  2. Re:Why cant we just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because sex is evil and nasty and must be hidden from everyone until they turn 18 at which point they should know all the things magically.

  3. Sigh... My country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    America, land of the sexually repressed and violent.

  4. No porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Without porn the Internet would be a ghost town.

  5. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pornography wouldn't be such a big deal if the level of prudery in the US were toned down a bit. OMG A NIPPLE ON TV, MY KID COULD HAVE SEEN THAT!

    You know what, we're all born nude, most of us have been fed at the breast, and we're all physically different. Whether male or female, who cares? It's like the Streisand Effect. Drawing attention to it is what makes it worse. Nudity shouldn't be taboo. Being taboo is a big driver for the porn industry.

  6. Donna Rice Hughes? by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wasn't Donna Rice Hughes the chick that was screwing the married Senator Gary Hart? I remember her. She was screwing a married man. Let me guess: she is a Born Again Christian? Christians would be funny if they weren't so harmful and pathetic.

  7. Re:Feminist by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She's been IN porn.

    It's all hypocrisy, what did you expect from Republicans?

  8. Re:I would be very surprised... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing is a deal breaker for Trump fans. Trump could rape the father of one of his supporters and the supporter would cheer. Or at least blame Hillary.

  9. And that's how you lose an election by campuscodi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...

    1. Re:And that's how you lose an election by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...

      I doubt it.

      There's a large portion of his base that will think this is an awesome idea. The rest just won't believe it. Spend some time talking to Trump supporters and you'll quickly find that they're very adept at ignoring anything he says that they don't like, with a variety of excuses. I expect the "rationale" for ignoring this one will be that the president doesn't have the power to do that without the help of Congress and that Congress won't do it.

      Of course, the same is true of many things his supporters *do* like, but they don't bother applying the same logic. It's really rather incredible. He says outrageous things that land all over the political landscape, and his supporters grab onto the pieces they like with both hands crowing that he's the only one who dares to say it like it is, and simultaneously discard the rest, either because he's just joking, or because he can't actually do it... or even because he has to say that to appease some other part of the base. The degree of doublethink implicit in that last excuse is mind-boggling, but there it is.

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  10. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by dj245 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This might look like a moral crusade to you but porn has fundamentally altered the relationship dynamics of the modern world.

    Perhaps, but whether that is for better or worse is debatable and a matter of opinion. I would argue that allowing legal outlets for people to indulge their inner fantasies is a good thing. It is almost certainly better than living in a more conservative society where such people would be forced to break the law just to satisfy harmless urges.

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  11. Re:I would be very surprised... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As opposed to Hillary supporters who still support her after...
    her email problems
    lying under oath to Congress
    taking bribes to sell a uranium company to Russia
    twisting election fund raising laws
    taking bribes to sell hypersonic cruise missile technology to Russia (my best guess on what Wikileaks is threatening to release now)
    stealing taxpayer money through a laundering scheme involving Laureate University
    calling Pat Smith, the mother of Sean Smith who died working for embassy, a liar
    lying to the public about reason for Benghazi
    cheating in primary to prevent Bernie from getting a fair chance

  12. Oh goody, bipartisan support by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the real interesting bit, which the summary decided to leave out, is in TFA:

    Clinton's campaign reportedly says that it supports the pledge's goals.

    If memory serves (and I could be wrong), wasn't Clinton one of the advocates for greater control of video games back when that was the menace du jour that we must protect children from?

    1. Re:Oh goody, bipartisan support by Bartles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Their goal isn't to ban porn. Ignore the intentionally misleading headlines and go read the article and the pledge. When you're done ignoring all you have read, then go vote for Hillary.

  13. Re:Why cant we just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because without guilt, they are more likely to question the church's authority. And the sexual tension makes better warriors out of them. I mean, so what if it makes them turn gay, right?

  14. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This might look like a moral crusade to you but porn has fundamentally altered the relationship dynamics of the modern world.

    Humans have been fundamentally altering the relationship dynamics of the modern world ever since the first human decided they knew exactly what a "perfect" relationship should be.

    Porn wasn't invented yesterday. Neither was divorce, so perhaps we can stop with blaming the Tinder generation now.

  15. All those porn lovers better vote for Johnson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    *It's the name you know*

  16. Re:There's a reason for that. He's the only racist by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    who could be elected president. His fan base are white racists - they have no other options.

    It's clear there is a section of his support base for whom this is true, but if that were all he had, or even most of what he had, he'd have no chance. No, much more of his support comes from people who deeply oppose globalization and people who are just mad at the establishment and want anything else.

    I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.

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  17. Another Big Government Republican by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just like George Bush expanded the size and intrusion of the government over the people via the TSA and the Department of Homeland Security, Trump will blindly follow his lead and create an even larger, and more expensive, federal government while at the same time claiming he'll cut taxes to increase revenue.

    Where have we heard this fantasy before?

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  18. Re:if you think Hitlary will be any different... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Would you Bernie-or-bust trolls shut the fuck up? If you can't tell the difference between Trump and Clinton then you're being fucking stupid.

  19. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pornography wouldn't be such a big deal if the level of prudery in the US were toned down a bit.

    We would be the 3rd english speaking country to enact anti-porn laws. Apparently we are not the biggest prudes.

    This seems to just be a random invented issue to cause people to bicker. Ban alcohol, ban gambling, ban drugs, ban violent games, ban guns, ban ban ban. Cite a few people who can't control themselves as evidence that there's an epidemic. Ignore the masses of people who use the substance in question as intended, without any issues, or at least marginalize them as "people with self control" and focus on the need for laws too deal with people who have no self control.

    It's certainly much easier to do than fix real problems, wherein the problems are frequently people who pay for politicians to get elected so they don't get fixed.

  20. Who writes these headlines? by Bartles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sick of headline having nothing to do with the post. Even the article's headline had nothing to do with the article. There's a huge difference between cracking down on porn, and cracking down on child porn.

  21. Re:if you think Hitlary will be any different... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, Hillary will be different. She may still be the establishment candidate, but she's not a fucking moron who just spouts out shit seemingly at random. She's hardly the greatest candidate ever, but compared to Trump she's an intellectual and moral giant.

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  22. Re:I would be very surprised... by Alomex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One big difference though. No Hillary supporter as of yet has clapped wildly after hearing about her mistakes. They acknowledge they are bad things and chose to support her in spite of these flaws. Trump supporters on the other hand cheer after each of his despicable comments calling most Mexican immigrants rapists, calling John McCain (who declined special offers of mercy in Vietnam to support his fellow soldiers) a coward, and insulting the mother of a brave soldier who gave his life for this country.

  23. Re:I would be very surprised... by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, come on, you can do better than that. The relentless scandal factory has been at work since, what, 1992? You're only citing things back maybe 8 years at most. I mean, sure, usually you want to focus on the latest shiny model, but if you're going to list all the models, you need to include the classics. What about Whitewater, the White House Travel Office, Vince Foster, and all that jazz?

    So really, you want to know why Hillary supporters don't give a sh*t about your list of scandals?

    It's because they stopped treating the people screaming about them as if they had any shred of credibility. I've heard people crying "Wolf!" for 24 fscking years. Where? Where's the wolf? The entire right wing has yet, in 24 fscking years, to actually nail her on anything, no matter how minor. Either she's the slipperyest smoothest super-criminal the world has ever seen, or maybe, just maybe, it's a bunch of politically motivated trumped-up (pun intended) BS.

    And hey, maybe there's some actual dirt in there, but when the conservatives are so busy trying fling mud by the ton, you'll just have to forgive me if I find it a little difficult to see.

  24. Re:I would be very surprised... by phantomfive · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Those are some really big cognitive biases you have there, friend.

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  25. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by mikeiver1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As much as I agree with you it is far simpler than that. It is nothing more than subterfuge. If the morons focus on bullshit like porn they will not be looking at the fact that the banking and insurance industries are doing the very same bullshit that caused the crash in 2006. They will not be looking at the fact that the rich and the large multinationals are orders of magnitude better off at the expense of the middle and lower classes. They will not notice the fact that the separation of church and state is eroded to the point of being a farce and a joke now. They will not care that the churches protect pedophiles while at the same time they bring on out right attacks on the rights of woman to self determination and what they can and can't do with their own bodies. They will not notice the overwhelming body of evidence that the earth is on a path to extreme weather swings that will forever change the lives of their kids and every other creature on the planet. They will not notice that the control of the internet is being seeded to an international group of countries bent of the suppression of of free speech and the open exchange of ideas. They will not be focused on the continued war that kills their kids and makes the military industrial complex richer by the day. They will not be focused on the need to tighten up on weapons background checks as at least some measure to get the stupidity under control. Fuck it, the uneducated will vote for that fucking moron because they are just that, FUCKING MORONS!

  26. Re:There's a reason for that. He's the only racist by geek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.

    Citation needed. Or did you just pull it out of your fucking ass like the rest of your post?

  27. Re:Remember, it's because people aren't marrying by Dorianny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you seriously believe that the girl working at a low-wage service job for $7.25 an hour is not being exploited, doesn't struggle with family life because of the erratic schedules and long shifts, or has better economic prospects than a girl working in the Adult Films industry?! It really is just another way to make income. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on Rodeo Clowns because of the danger to life, a dead end career and the high levels of alcoholism associated with it

  28. Let me get this straight .... by mr.witherspoone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He has one demographic he's ahead in, white men, and he wants to end internet porn? It's official August 1st Donald Trump conceded to Hillary Clinton.

  29. Re:But the internet is for porn by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No gymnastics required, you have TWO choices, one the head of the FBI spent 20+ minutes detailing why they should be indicted...then just let loose because "hey she is powerful, can't have her facing laws like everybody else, right?" even after saying if anybody else did the exact.same.thing. they would at the minimum face being denied security clearance (which would make you ineligible to be POTUS) and who has gone on the record saying we need two MORE wars, one in Syria and one in Iran, and if that isn't enough not to want her in the white house? How about saying we should up the amount of "Syrian refugees" we are getting by 500% when our own state dept says we have NO WAY of vetting any of these people, most of whom is from Syria about as much as I'm from the moon.

    So as a former Bernie supporter yes Virginia I'm voting Trump, would I rather have Bernie? Hell yes, would I vote for Clinton? Hell no. Trump MIGHT be a bad president, hell he might be a good one, we just do not know, what we DO KNOW is looking at her entire history Hillary is a sociopath, who lies even when she has nothing to gain from the lies and the lies can be easily disproved, and the only things she has ever been consistent on are for more wars, more money to Wall Street, and more self enrichment no matter the legality.

    Frankly Hillary Clinton is such an odious choice for POTUS that Trump could come out and say he wants to spend his 4 years sacrificing goats to Cthulu and he would frankly STILL be a better choice for POTUS, again no gymnastics required, simply looking at the history of the two (frankly piss poor) choices we get in no small part thanks to the DNC doing their damnedest to rig the primaries from day one. I hope if Trump wins everyone walks up to Wasserman-Schultz and spits right in her face,because even now polls show Trump beating Hillary but Bernie beating Trump...way to pick a winner Schultz, you worthless waste of space.

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  30. Re:There's a reason for that. He's the only racist by meta-monkey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well, other than that they're willing to ignore the extremists... but Trump supporters are willing to ignore all sorts of stuff.

    The left likes to play "let's you and him fight." They demand Republicans turn on each other and denounce this person or that person because they uttered something not nice. In the meantime BLMers shoot cops and the Dems "denounce the violence," but then still say "Black Lives Matter" and Obama has BLM leaders to the White House.

    Punching right doesn't do you any good. After Ted Cruz's backstabbing speech at the RNC, every liberal rag ran stories about how "principled" that was. Great. But, ah, anybody from HuffPo ever going to vote for Ted Cruz?

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  31. Re:if you think Hitlary will be any different... by dj245 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the 1930's to about the 1950's or so, most normal people idolized the cream of the intelligentsia, Albert Einstein was quite the celebrity in his day, even among common folk. Werner Von Braun and the Rocket Kids of the 1950's-1960's were probably the last of the scientists regular people looked up to.

    I used to have some respect for Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson but since the politicalization of science, they both have gotten too political and are nearly as bad as the anti-fact people they rail against.

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  32. internet signs pledge not to vote for Donald Trump by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with garnering votes by continually scaring angry grandpas is that eventually they all die off.

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  33. Re:There's a reason for that. He's the only racist by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You hate the left, and anyone you hate has a double standard. Some lefties use AT&T! Others denounce capitalistic monopolies! Double standards Everywhere!!!

    Your inability to comprehend the issues doesn't make them contradictory. Trump explicitly joked about assaulting protesters. Protesters were later assaulted. How is it a double standard to consider that somehow linked to Trump himself? BLM has said "stop the violence". All of it, against police, and by police. So when a mentally ill vet with no links to BLM kills some cops and talks about BLM, it's BLM that made him do it? Thankfully, the police killed him before he could be interrogated or tried, so we'll never know what he was thinking. White extremist (after all, that's the label given to minorities) shoots people from a bell tower at University of Texas and he's diagnosed as a good vet with a brain tumor, and essentially forgiven by the country. Where's the level of interest in the Black extremists motives? If you are looking for a double standard, you are looking in the wrong place.