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Mysterious, Ice-Buried Cold War Military Base May Be Unearthed By Climate Change (sciencemag.org)

Slashdot reader sciencehabit quotes Science magazine: It sounds like something out of a James Bond movie: a secret military operation hidden beneath the Greenland Ice Sheet. But that's exactly what transpired at Camp Century during the Cold War. In 1959, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers built the subterranean city under the guise of conducting polar research -- and scientists there did drill the first ice core ever used to study climate. But deep inside the frozen tunnels, the corps also explored the feasibility of Project Iceworm, a plan to store and launch hundreds of ballistic missiles from inside the ice.

The military ultimately rejected the project, and the corps abandoned Camp Century in 1967. Engineers anticipated that the ice -- already a dozen meters thick -- would continue to accumulate in northwestern Greenland, permanently entombing what they left behind. Now, climate change has upended that assumption. New research suggests that as early as 2090, rates of ice loss at the site could exceed gains from new snowfall. And within a century after that, melting could begin to release waste stored at the camp, including sewage, diesel fuel, persistent organic pollutants like PCBs, and radiological waste from the camp's nuclear generator, which was removed during decommissioning.

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  1. Just wait for the future to arrive. by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    as early as 2090, rates of ice loss at the site could exceed gains from new snowfall. And within a century after that, melting could begin to release waste

    So in about 200 years, the people alive then will have something to worry about.

    To put this into perspective, let's look back at the technology of 1816 and compare it with today's. Then we can assume at least the same level of advancement from now until 2216 (if not, then I would expect the world of that era would have bigger problems than some sewage and diesel at the North Pole) and what would seem like an issue today will be entirely manageable by then.

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    1. Re:Just wait for the future to arrive. by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually I don't think the point of all this is that we should be alarmed about this dump; it's more of a "ha-ha, look at that" story like the one in 2013 about the boat with climate scientists that got stuck in ice. Not so much substantive as ironic.

      The US and USSR both did a lot of crazy shit during the Cold War. Today, chemical weapons are disposed of via thermal or chemical degradation (and are generally not made anymore), but from 1916 to the 1960s, we built those things assuming we were going to use them, and we made them hard to disassemble. So when they reached the end of their lifetimes we routinely disposed of them by dropping them into the ocean.

      Meanwhile the USSR had a nasty habit of doing above-ground nuclear tests in Kazakhstan to see what the effects would be on a civilian population. They purposely didn't warn their citizens there (the USSR didn't have that kind of a government) and surprised them with mushroom clouds. Three generations later, babies are still being born or miscarried that have no arms, no skeletons, eyes in the wrong places or missing altogether, etc.

    2. Re:Just wait for the future to arrive. by rrohbeck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Then we can assume at least the same level of advancement from now until 2216

      Says who? The rate of scientific progress has slowed significantly over the last few decades. Almost everything you see is WWII/cold war tech, refined.

  2. Imminent Disaster! by KenHansen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The military ultimately rejected the project, and the corps abandoned Camp Century in 1967. Engineers anticipated that the ice -- already a dozen meters thick -- would continue to accumulate in northwestern Greenland, permanently entombing what they left behind. Now, climate change has upended that assumption. New research suggests that as early as 2090, rates of ice loss at the site could exceed gains from new snowfall. And within a century after that, melting could begin to release waste stored at the camp, including sewage, diesel fuel, persistent organic pollutants like PCBs, and radiological waste from the camp's nuclear generator, which was removed during decommissioning.

    So 50 years ago a military base was abandoned, and in 70 years, the ice/snow will start receding, and then a 100 years after that, waste buried in the ice will be exposed... Wow, I hope we'll be able to organize a clean-up party in the next 170 years, before the waste starts to be exposed!

    1. Re:Imminent Disaster! by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, I hope we'll be able to organize a clean-up party in the next 170 years, before the waste starts to be exposed!

      Based on past reactions to known situations of looming environmental catastrophes, this appears highly unlikely.

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    2. Re:Imminent Disaster! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2

      I hope we'll be able to organize a clean-up party in the next 170 years, before the waste starts to be exposed!

      I doubt it- in the given scenario where the earth's temperature rises by 5 degrees Centigrade, this dump would probably be the least of our problems.

  3. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "New research suggests that as early as 2090, rates of ice loss at the site could exceed gains from new snowfall. And within a century after that...."
    As scientist have proven unable to predict weather, much less Climate, I say we have a few years to worry about this. Currently snow and ice forming is out running the melting, EVERY YEAR, CURRENTLY, ITS GETTING BURIED DEEPER AND DEEPER. Possibly, in maybe 80 years the melting might keep up the new snow/ice formation and begin reversing. 100 years afterwards, maybe, we have an issue to deal with. Seeing as this could be cleaned up and moved with less then a years work (200 years from now when its almost naturally uncovered....why are we talking about this. Looks like more "the sky is falling" news to me.

    1. Re:Maybe by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      OK, I'm replying to myself here after RTFA. The dump is situated at the accumulation zone of the Greenland ice sheet, so if the earth's average temperature increases by five degrees C, anything buried that deep at the site will surface after 80 years.

      This is land ice, not surface sea ice (which is declining year by year: see https://www.youtube.com/watch?... for a time-lapse). Land ice is declining in the rest of of Greenland which lies outside the accumulation zone.

  4. Don't bother with the link in the summary by pablo_max · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do yourself a favor and have a look at the youtube video in the NPR link. It was produced by the war department. It's fascinating. I especially like how the solders were handling the fuel rods in t-shirts and no protective equipment at all.
    I am quite sure every single one of those poor guys died a horrible death not long after.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/th...

    1. Re:Don't bother with the link in the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      uhh... you do realize those fuel rods are in lead shields right? they have Geiger counters and shit around.

      what protective equipment is gonna help you handling a fuel rod? wearing 100lbs of lead?

      so long its sealed in a cask and you don't have dust around its fine... the army is not completely retarded

    2. Re:Don't bother with the link in the summary by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Old government videos about mining operations are great. Everyone is so optimistic and clueless- you see people messing around with uranium, asbestos, lead, etc. with cheerful music playing in the background. There are great videos about how awesome leaded gasoline is too.

  5. Don't forget the DYE stations by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The US also had a series of DYE radar installations on the Greenland Ice Sheet - together they made up the DEW (Distant Early Warning) line. Climate scientists drilled ice cores at those locations as well.

    I used to work in an ice core climate research group. I've never been to any of the DYE stations (although I did spent parts of some summers on the Greenland ice sheet); but there's a simple reason why those ice cores were drilled at these defense installations - logistics. It's difficult and expensive to get to, set up, and maintain a camp on the ice sheet. Piggybacking on already-existing military infrastructure saves time and money.

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  6. Re:seriously? by war4peace · · Score: 2

    Two centuries.

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  7. Uhhhhh... by john.r.strohm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in the Dark Ages, before smartphones and Pokemon Go, every schoolchild in the United States of America learned about the Viking settlements in Greenland.

    Those settlements included dairy farms.

    Those settlements were there, doing well, for 269 years.

    They eventually shut down when the glacier moved south, it being really difficult to graze cattle on top of a glacier.

    The Greenland ice sheet has not been there forever, people. Its progress southward can be tracked in the historical records from the Vikings. They left behind detailed notes on the development of the glacier, because it affected where the boats could make landfall.

  8. Greenland and Arctic data by zapadnik · · Score: 2

    If we use the Scientific Method (rather than anecdotes) we look at data. Here is the Danish Meteorological Institute's measurements (Greenland is administered by Denmark)
    http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland...
    Of particular interest is this graph:
    http://www.dmi.dk/uploads/tx_d... Here is the Arctic Ice Extent:
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/ice...

    Here is the late-summer Arctic ice extent. Temperatures drop below freezing in a week from now and the Arctic ice will start accumulating again (this is from an American source):
    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_i...

    The coasts of Greenland are losing some ice, which may be why this base is being expose, but a much larger interior are in the interior is putting on a lot of ice/snow. The pattern of where ice is gained and lost seems to vary annually, depending on sea conditions and also changes in wind/storms.

    Given that the Antarctic is putting on ice and the total ice cover of the globe is actually increasing (if you look at the measurements) then there isn't much of a reason to panic - especially as those that study solar activity have a prediction of Maunder-Minimum conditions by about 2030, where the global temperature will decrease drastically. So relax, enjoy the good weather (El Nino this year, which was wonderful) while it lasts, amigas y amigos.

    Don't forget to always check the observed data, as computer climate models are not data according to the Scientific Method, they are considered "hypothesis" and observational data can falsify those hypothesis.

  9. Re:seriously? by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure this is the leaked plot of the next Tomb Raider game.

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