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Stem Cell Researchers Can Now Combine Animal and Human Embryos In The US (sciencemag.org)

Slashdot reader sciencehabit quotes an article from Science magazine: The National Institutes of Health announced that the agency soon expects to lift a moratorium on funding for controversial experiments that add human stem cells to animal embryos, creating an organism that is part animal, part human. Instead, these so-called chimera studies will undergo an extra layer of ethical review but may ultimately be allowed to proceed.

Although scientists who support such research welcomed the move, some were left trying to parse exactly what the draft policy will mean. It is "a step in the right direction," says Sean Wu, a stem cell researcher at Stanford University in Palo Alto, California, who co-authored a letter to Science last year opposing the moratorium. But "we still don't know what the outcome will be case by case," he adds. However, some see the proposal as opening up research in some areas that had been potentially off-limits.

Experiments could include using animals to grow human organs for transplants, although according to the article, some scientists "worry that the experiments could produce, say, a supersmart mouse."

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  1. I hope all chimeras welcome their new ... by Press2ToContinue · · Score: 1

    ... human overlords.

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  2. Wow this is great by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 2

    Something that will piss off the right (because of embryonic stem cell research) and the left. (Because of animal/human hybrids.) The left and right will finally agree on something.

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    1. Re:Wow this is great by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Oh, the right are pretty pissed off!
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      In an aggressive move before the end of its second term, the Obama administration announced Thursday that is wants to allow scientists to engineer human-animal hybrids.

      This latest attempt by President Barack Obama of reportedly seeking to manipulate and destroy human life through unethical experiments comes after his earlier move to overturn limits set by the Bush administration.

      One issue is that scientists might inadvertently create animals that have partly human brains, endowing them with some semblance of human consciousness or human thinking abilities,” the pro-life media hub (LifeNews) added.

      “In 2009, pro-abortion President Barack Obama issued an executive order allowing funding on life-destroying embryonic stem cell research, including for human-animal hybrid embryos,” the pro-life organization reminded Americans. “This rescinded President George Bush’s policy prohibiting taxpayer-funding of the life-destroying practices.”
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      I can't see the left getting pissed off though. They've not objected to chimera research before.

    2. Re:Wow this is great by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Something that will piss off the right (because of embryonic stem cell research) and the left. (Because of animal/human hybrids.) The left and right will finally agree on something.

      After people can use this technique to get rejection-fee transplant organs without a waiting list, Luddites will quickly be selected out of the human species.

    3. Re:Wow this is great by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      A seventeen-year-old paper that makes no mention of chimeras, and only touches on transgenics, and published on a glorified blog that no-one has ever heard of?

      I used ONN as an example because they are an example of 'the right' but not 'far right' - they aren't somewhere like, say, WND or JW that runs every day with claims that Obama is a Muslim spy and IS are training terrorists in Mexico. ONN is run by the AFA - who, though perhaps not the most influential organisation within the faction known as 'the right' in American politics, are at least in the top five. So when an opinion is endorsed by the AFA, it's not just something on the fringe.

    4. Re:Wow this is great by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Oh, they already agree on almost everything. The surface disagreements are really very minor compared to the fundamental means of authoritarian governance that they both employ.

    5. Re:Wow this is great by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Human chimera tech is a little too new for the activists to have focused on yet, but judging from the left's Absolutely No Under Any Circumstances Whatever attitude to a few tweaks to vegetable genomes, even in non-corporate aid projects like Golden Rice, er can bet that chimera tech will be their next target.

    6. Re:Wow this is great by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That's what you'd hope but the jehovas witnesses are still here with out blood transfusions

      How many of them are left, though? And they have zero political influence.We need to arrange things so the No GMOers meet the same fate.

    7. Re: Wow this is great by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with you.

    8. Re:Wow this is great by MercTech · · Score: 1

      Actually, a human genetic material chimera has been discussed for decades. The issue has been so hashed over the concept is firmly ingrained in pop culture. The link to an advert for a Scott Sigler book written years ago to illustrate the pop culture take on human chimera fears.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRY9eWlmBWM

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  3. Fievel by Idealius · · Score: 1

    some scientists "worry that the experiments could produce, say, a supersmart mouse." Fears are unfounded assuming super smart rat population is allowed to keep the super smart mouse population in check.

    1. Re:Fievel by tomhath · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure that was a reference to Algernon, not Fievel.

    2. Re:Fievel by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      I give you +5 for "The Secret of NIMH" reference.

    3. Re:Fievel by Nutria · · Score: 1

      The super-smart mouse population keeps itself in check by trying to take over the world instead of breeding more super-smart mice.

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    4. Re:Fievel by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      There's that, but there's also the fact that half of the super-smart mouse population just goes "narf!" 95% of the time.

  4. Extra-dimensional beings? by Theovon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, so this is how we get all those mice that advance quantum physics for us.

    1. Re:Extra-dimensional beings? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Sure. Advance quantum physics for us.

  5. combination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The National Institutes of Drumpf announced that the agency soon expects to lift a moratorium on funding for controversial experiments that add human stem cells to drumpf embryos, creating an organism that is part drumpf, part human. Instead, these so-called chimera studies will undergo an extra layer of ethical review but may ultimately be allowed to proceed.

  6. Narf! by ohnocitizen · · Score: 1

    some scientists "worry that the experiments could produce, say, a supersmart mouse."

    "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

    1. Re:Narf! by Keybounce · · Score: 1

      "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

      I think so, but with birth rates on the decline, how will the giraffes keep their heads up?

  7. About time. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I suggest anyone who opposes this research be sent to meet a few people on organ waiting lists. Let them tell those patients why they must be allowed to die.

    1. Re:About time. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      very nice, raising straw man for issues of tech that don't exist.

      Instead we can grow spare organs on people like you, because you care. What? You're not willing? Tell that to the patients waiting for organs why they must be allowed to die. You selfish bastard you.

    2. Re:About time. by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's not a great approach for discerning medical ethics. At the point your justification for medical experiments is, "in the long term there could be (as yet undemonstrated) major benefits" I don't think there is a single experiment you could not rationalize.

  8. God, schmod by flink · · Score: 1

    I want my monkey man!

  9. Bad time for religion? by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


    As an atheist I treat all religions equally and this does present some rather profound religious challenges. Specifically when a person had a donated organ in them that was grown in an animal that conflicts with their belief system...such as a pig, pig DNA even in the smallest amounts would still exist.

    Now if a portion of a pig is in a person can that person still be Jewish or Muslim? how about an organ grown in a cow if a person is Hindu? -Now before you label me a troll just hold your horses and hear me out.

    There are plenty of crack-pot beliefs out there preventing people from getting life saving medical operations. From supposed hyper-sensitivity to wireless signals to the whole nonsense with the MMR vaccine allegedly causing autism.

    So assuming the religious community decides you cannot be jewish/muslim if you have an organ in you that was grown in a pig; and say for arguments sake the legal guardians are religious, and their child is under-aged but wants to live via organ donation from whatever animal conflicts with their belief system, would the government step-in for the benefit of the individual being saved? Should it?

    Would denying such people on the grounds of religion be considered a hate crime? As denial of such a procedure may be a death sentence.

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    1. Re:Bad time for religion? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      It's not breaking new ground in this regard - there are already established laws for handling situations like that. There are some Christian churches that forbid all non-trivial medical treatment (it undermines faith, apparently), and there are the JWs and their strange religious doctrine forbidding blood transfusion, and with it many forms of major surgery.

    2. Re:Bad time for religion? by Burz · · Score: 1

      I think secular society will have a bigger problem with this once we realize that chimeras will allow a slew of new pathogens to adapt to the point where they can spread to humans.

  10. Oh gawds!!! animal hueman hrbridz? by mm4902 · · Score: 1

    Whats next Bird-Finch hybrids?

  11. Smarter Mice by codecore · · Score: 1

    God knows we could use some smarter mice.

    1. Re:Smarter Mice by tomhath · · Score: 1

      A bigger concern is smarter cats. Pretty much a given they would be evil.

  12. How dangerous? by BitterOak · · Score: 1

    Will the "supersmart mouse" be smarter than a human? If no, how would it be dangerous? If so, wouldn't that be a potentially useful thing to have around?

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  13. What's the problem? by saboosh · · Score: 2

    Everyone knows the solution to a super smart Mouse is to give him a counterpart which always inadvertently ruins his plans to take over the world..... Also, that counterpart must always provide a different perspective on what the super smart mouse might be thinking at any moment.

  14. Hidden assumption by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Since when are humans not animals?

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  15. Re:Insane is Insane. by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    Dude, you complain about these guys playing god and you're trying to freakin' grow puppies? That's not how dogs work, man!

  16. Re:So... When can we expect animal eared humans? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    There you go. (SFW?)

  17. Hmmm by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    A human, animal combo just might explain Trump. I suppose a rat or weasel would be the animal component.

  18. Re:Insane is Insane. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    That was so funny I slapped your mom.

  19. It's happening! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1
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  20. Re:Catgirls and Pigmen? by LienRag · · Score: 1

    Cursed panties of Torajima?